Members Ridge Posted January 9, 2007 Members Share Posted January 9, 2007 Yeah, exactly. OLTL in many senses isn't respecting its history or utilizing it, it is banging it over the head. Todd the rapist has almost been an underlying theme for over the past 3 years with Blair crying rape and then Todd being raped. It's a common thread not a throwback to one of the show's biggest storylines. And IA, the show is threading on rewriting it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ZaraB Posted January 9, 2007 Members Share Posted January 9, 2007 OLTL is doing a better job of remembering its history, but in some ways it is still the most cheap, obvious ways. Yes, we are getting the Viki and Dorian feud back, but Clint is a far cry from the gallant straight-shooting cowboy of ten years ago. Nora and Lindsay are back at it, but how long will we see RJ? As we approach Spencer's presumed demise, bringing back Marty seems just another thing being thrown at once-supercouple Todd and Blair: Falling off a roof, heart infection, sudden pregnancy and miscarriage, old enemy back in town. Marty's character isn't making a lot of sense. It seems a lot more like a new character borrowing Marty's name and history. Marty actually went so far a few years back as to come and testify that Todd didn't rape Blair. Now she's motivated by revenge? Why is she injecting herself at all into Spencer's life? After the 'roid rage attack,' Todd and Blair both have enough reason to object to Cole. He doesn't need the Sayebrooke/Thornheart connection. Bringing up Todd and Blair's recent history is enough for any average parent to object to any association with Starr. It didn't NEED to be the rape. Todd has a long list of misdeeds besides the rape, but few stand out in OLTL history the way the rape does. Nothing was done to hide the horror of it, but it has repercussions for the characters still felt today (unlike, say, Jen's death, the kiddie porn, the cheerleader B-B-Q, or Margaret's rape of Todd). And the Todd of today, crying on Evangeline's shoulder every chance he gets, doesn't seem like the man who did any of Todd's list, nor do TPTB want him to be. It is still much better than much of what we've had, but it still has a ways to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 2shane8 Posted January 9, 2007 Members Share Posted January 9, 2007 --> QUOTE(Chris B @ Jan 9 2007, 01:54 AM) Christina Chambers is the worst actress on soaps right now and the actor playing Cole isn't much better. He seems a little slow. Well, I agree about the actor playing Cole, but there is no way Christina Chambers is the worst actress on soaps! I don't find her to be that good or that bad, but she is not a disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 2shane8 Posted January 9, 2007 Members Share Posted January 9, 2007 I agree with you that Christina is not that bad, but who on OLTL is a bad actress other than Melissa Gallo? I would be tempted to say Alex O'Neill or Melissa Archer, but I think they suffer from one-note characters. Every other actress ranges from good to excellent. Well, maybe not Tika ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 2shane8 Posted January 9, 2007 Members Share Posted January 9, 2007 I agree with you that Christina is not that bad, but who on OLTL is a bad actress other than Melissa Gallo? I would be tempted to say Alex O'Neill or Melissa Archer, but I think they suffer from one-note characters. Every other actress ranges from good to excellent. Well, maybe not Tika ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dragonflies Posted January 9, 2007 Members Share Posted January 9, 2007 WORD! This character isn't Todd to me and his and nufakeMarty's "history" with each other just doesn't work cause of both characters being recasted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DruRocks Posted January 9, 2007 Members Share Posted January 9, 2007 Trevor St. John may possibly be a better actor than Roger Howarth but NOT in the role of Todd Manning. He's too weak, given Todd's dark past. I think Trevor plays Todd with too much vulnerability, which takes away from what the character. TSJ is always frickin' crying. I do like when male characters break down too on daytime, but not every freaking week. Roger's Todd was ruthless and would never allow any of that sh.t go down with Spencer and Margaret. Howarth's Todd was freaking scary, the Prince of Darkness. I miss the dynamic shared between Roger Howarth and Kassie DePaiva as well. When RH was in the role, I loved all the breakups and arguing. With Trevor it's boring. And Todd is NOT a boring character. RH Todd could also be humouros at time in a sly way. He wasn't one note at all either. And of course the writers are too blame as well, but I don't see Trevor helping the matter. Todd can still mature and have an edge. And let's not forget Todd's trademark scar! I'll admit that Roger is less than impressive as Paul Ryan on As the World Turns, but that does not take away from his spectacular tenure on One Life to Live. There are cases where the re-cast usurps the original (Ie. Jess Walton, Y&R) but this is NOT the case! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DH23 Posted January 9, 2007 Members Share Posted January 9, 2007 Roger Howarth to me is just burned out or not trying very hard these days on ATWT. I don't like that TSJ has Todd sobbing so often but he's still a good actor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chris B Posted January 10, 2007 Members Share Posted January 10, 2007 At least Trevor knows how to sob! Watching Howarth cry on ATWT is so painful I can't watch. It's strange because I LOVED him as Todd, but I just can't wait him on ATWT! WTF? As for Christina Chambers, I still think she is the WORST actress in her age range on soaps. She is the definition of bad, cheesy soap opera acting. You can always tell she is acting and she is not believable in this type of role. Maybe as a vixen, oh wait she SUCKED as a vixen on ATWT. She should just retire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DruRocks Posted January 10, 2007 Members Share Posted January 10, 2007 Trevor St. John and Roger Howarth should just switch roles. I think the majority will be satisfied. What went down with Howarth/OLTL anywyas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dragonflies Posted January 10, 2007 Members Share Posted January 10, 2007 Funny you talk about TSJ's Todd crying, SOD commented on the same thing, they basically said that Todd when he was being executed wouldn't have cried, he would have told everyone to go to hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DH23 Posted January 10, 2007 Members Share Posted January 10, 2007 I will agree that Christina's portrayal of Molly on ATWT left a lot to be desired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DruRocks Posted January 10, 2007 Members Share Posted January 10, 2007 Then again REALTodd would never let himself get played by Spencer or Margaret in the first place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Scotty Posted January 10, 2007 Members Share Posted January 10, 2007 Very, very true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AntiNWO Posted January 10, 2007 Author Members Share Posted January 10, 2007 C. Chambers, Hogan Sheffer, Jean Passanante & Christopher Goutman (CSPG) ASSASSINATED Molly Conlon on ATWT. I NEVER WANT TO SEE MOLLY EVER AGAIN ON ATWT! Carly & Molly's close bond WAS one of the best duo in daytime history, but CSPG killed that! Chambers is not THE worst actor/actress in daytime. There are a few that ARE worst than her: C. Egg-something, B. Hogenstyn, A. Chando, Z. Roerig, M. Gallo, just to name a few. The ones I just named should all retire, PRONTO. Yes, R. Howarth is a better Todd Manning, but I'm still enjoying TS John's performances. Yes, the writing could & should always be better than it is now, at least it's entertaining. If Howarth quit ATWT, would ABC Daytime try to lure him back to OLTL & fire TS John? R. Howarth is a great Paul Ryan, it's the crap Pathetic Passanante/Lethal Laiman/Wonderless Whitesell/Greedy Goutman writing that's not up to par with his performances. Howarth was great from his debut till early 2006. After that: DruRocks: And let's not forget Todd's trademark scar! Well, didn't Todd undergo plastic surgery. That would explain the disapperance of his scar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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