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2007: The Directors and Writers Thread

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Ok, Sinclair. You got that one. :) I actually agree. AMC is HORRIBLE!!! I was watching tonight and Sara Bibel wrote a horrendous show!! AMC does need Lorraine, much more than OLTL.

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Ok, Sinclair. You got that one. :) I actually agree. AMC is HORRIBLE!!! I was watching tonight and Sara Bibel wrote a horrendous show!! AMC does need Lorraine, much more than OLTL.

AMC needs a prayer....

So much of AMC's core has been dismantled and buried, I'm not sure if even Broderick could save it. ABC seems intent on killing it (both creatively and commercially), I'm not confident they'd hire someone with actual writing talent. AMC's not just the worst soap on television right now, it's downright the worst show in general at the moment.

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Why would Ed Scott fire a freaking script writer? Shouldnt he have something better to do?...LOL

You'd be surprised how many Executive Producers mess with their script-writing teams.

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You'd be surprised how many Executive Producers mess with their script-writing teams.

Ed Scott had a horrible relationship with the writer's on Y&R. Kay Alden truly hated him, after Bill Bell stepped down and she was working closer with Scott.

I wonder how soon it will be before Hogan and Dena are at odds with Ed Scott, or are they already?

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Then he's getting involved in something that's not his territory. It's like Frons intefering with the writing.

Yeah... there's definitely some "control issues" going on with the higher-ups at most shows these days. :rolleyes:

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With all due respect, ChangedbySon, you' aren't the only one who has sources within the industry. So to say I am "wrong" is... well... just plain wrong. I'm not saying that wasn't the information you were given, but the facts are these: Mike Cohen's first script aired December 22nd of 2006. Which means he was probably hired around end of September/beginning of October. Hogan was in complete control of the show back then. This was the time period when he began firing the old dialogue team and replacing them with people he wanted.

Beth was let go from the team months ago. Mike Cohen's scripts have been airing long past the usual 13-week cycle, so clearly he wasn't fired when his next cycle after Beth was fired was up. Yes, it's true... Beth was let go the same week Steve Wyman and Roy Goldberg were. Cohen was just released recently, and his scripts will continue to air into January. If Cohen were part of this Wyman/Milstein clique, he would have been let go either the same time as them, or when his next cycle was up. But clearly, that is not the case.

You can believe what you're told if you believe your sources to be more accurate than mine. I just wanted to clear it up for anyone else reading this thread. It was a production decision, not the head writer's.

Wow, that's solid information there. I heard the same thing. It was Ed Scott who fired Mike Cohen for some reason.

Oh it's Steinberg, not Goldberg. ;)

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Then he's getting involved in something that's not his territory. It's like Frons intefering with the writing.

What? The EP leads the show. THey are to be involved with everything.

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As it stands now, every writer on the show is from Procter & Gamble/CBS, which are the people

Hogan has worked with for the past decade.

Not every.

Jodie Scholz was there before Hogan. Gordon Rayfield and Richard Backus last wrote for OLTL. Cydney Kelley's only wrote for DAYS and came back to the show after a 3 year absense. Renee Godelia also worked her way up at DAYS and is now back with the team after leaving in the summer of 2006.

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Not every.

Jodie Scholz was there before Hogan. Gordon Rayfield and Richard Backus last wrote for OLTL. Cydney Kelley's only wrote for DAYS and came back to the show after a 3 year absense. Renee Godelia also worked her way up at DAYS and is now back with the team after leaving in the summer of 2006.

Absolutely. The only long-term As the World Turns writers Hogan and Meg brought over that I can tell are: Judy Tate, Tom Casiello, Charlotte Gibson and Judy Donato. Fred Johnson last worked at As the World Turns, but I wouldn't consider him an FOH ("Friend of Hogan") as he's made quite a name for himself in this business at other soaps. Not that Fred and Hogan probably aren't friends. I'm sure they are, but FJ could probably get a gig anywhere he wanted. Other than that, the rest of the team is a pretty mixed bag from other shows.

If I forgot about anybody, or flaked on a name spelling, I'm sure Toups will correct me. :lol:

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With all due respect, ChangedbySon, you' aren't the only one who has sources within the industry. So to say I am "wrong" is... well... just plain wrong. I'm not saying that wasn't the information you were given, but the facts are these: Mike Cohen's first script aired December 22nd of 2006. Which means he was probably hired around end of September/beginning of October. Hogan was in complete control of the show back then. This was the time period when he began firing the old dialogue team and replacing them with people he wanted.

Beth was let go from the team months ago. Mike Cohen's scripts have been airing long past the usual 13-week cycle, so clearly he wasn't fired when his next cycle after Beth was fired was up. Yes, it's true... Beth was let go the same week Steve Wyman and Roy Goldberg were. Cohen was just released recently, and his scripts will continue to air into January. If Cohen were part of this Wyman/Milstein clique, he would have been let go either the same time as them, or when his next cycle was up. But clearly, that is not the case.

You can believe what you're told if you believe your sources to be more accurate than mine. I just wanted to clear it up for anyone else reading this thread. It was a production decision, not the head writer's.

Maybe my source is Mike Cohen, Brimike.

In fact it is.

As to when someone is "let go", there's no true way to decipher that, because you

can be fired a month before your last script is actually written. That scriptwriter has to

be kept on until adjustments and new arrangements are made.

Each person was kept for as long as they were needed, and with a strike looming,

they probably needed Mike Cohen to help stock pile scripts.

I also happen to know for a fact that Beth and Mike were both brought on by

Steve Wyman, not Hogan. It was Beth's idea to rehire Mike who had been there years

and years earlier.

As to ED SCOTT being the one to fire him, that could be true, because new EPs usually

like to clear out all the "underlings" of the person they're replacing, but on a soap, we

also have to remember that no one person "fires" someone. Firing and hiring are done

by committee. Even the owner Ken Corday could want somebody hired on the show, and

if it's not signed off on by NBC, SONY or the rest of the Executive staff, that person won't

get on. The same goes for when someone is let go, there is a committee of people who

have to be in agreement with the person who suggests the firing.

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Then he's getting involved in something that's not his territory. It's like Frons intefering with the writing.

Now im gonn ask this because i really have NO idea about the behind scenes of running a soap opera, but why would any writer, script to HW, not be something the EP of a show would handles?

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Because Head writers are hired by the President and breakdown and script writers are hired by the head writer. It is his or her writing team. If its ok for Ed Scott to go around firing writers, then I say its just fine for Brian Frons to write an episode of GH. Frons sucks at writing and Mike Cohen, a damn good writer is jobless. Both are negative situations, but one should not be pardonable and the other not.

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