LOL... Sylph .. I love you, but I have to tell you that the time the thread was pulled about Megan I really felt that it border on " freedom " .

I also have to tell you that I am not the only one on this thread, but I will probably keep replying to it....

" Freedom" I love that more.

So close your eyes and you won't see the thread.. or dont reply on it and you won't do your part on keeping it on page one.

Because either Megan goes or this thread never will !!!

I love you too, Theresa33.

I love this thread, just so you know, but I want definite information (as we all do)! Keep typing.

The information I got was that [!@#$%^&*] signed with AMC. I don't know in what capacity, I'd have to re-check the information.

Thank you, Errol. Keep us informed.

The information I got was that [!@#$%^&*] signed with AMC. I don't know in what capacity, I'd have to re-check the information.

The last I heard was the possibility of a Co-HW. Megan's contract is still in question, and as it stands no one knows when it is specifically over. Whenever it is over, under no circumstances will ABC renew it. No matter what Brian says, ABC will not pay for her beyond her current deal. Affiliates are now getting involved and they are not happy.

The same can be said about Dena Higley, and when her contract is up. No one knows for sure. But ABC will not renew it unless she has a good November. More importantly, all the soaps better have a good November or people are in trouble. As I stated before, ABC slashed the budgets of the 3 ABC soaps, and they will again if November is bad for them. The first people to go will be actors, then the writers, and then if that doesn't help, Frons himself.

It should also be noted that any budget that ABC does have left over for Daytime is being spent on marketing and promotion, which is why the GH promo was so good.

I'd be too lucky for ME to be let go because of another failed sweeps.

The last I heard was the possibility of a Co-HW. Megan's contract is still in question, and as it stands no one knows when it is specifically over. Whenever it is over, under no circumstances will ABC renew it. No matter what Brian says, ABC will not pay for her beyond her current deal. Affiliates are now getting involved and they are not happy. ~Errol

YAY! (I was wondering when the affiliates would start demanding strength for their lead-ins to the afternoon talk shows.)

all the soaps better have a good November or people are in trouble. As I stated before, ABC slashed the budgets of the 3 ABC soaps, and they will again if November is bad for them. The first people to go will be actors, then the writers, and then if that doesn't help, Frons himself. ~Errol

Actors first. *heavy sigh* That figures! After spending years demanding the heads of McTavish and Frons; pointing out the horrible problems across ABCD soaps; they slash the actors first. They never believe the viewers. C'mon, ABC, we aren't all crazy shippers! (At least not most of the time. Heh)

I assume the affiliates are the focus of the attention in regards to spending any uncommitted cash on promotion. They're probably demanding it, even.

Still. ABCD is suffering from colleague protection syndrome. The firing plan starts with employees furthest away. People the execs never see in the hallway - the actors. Doesn't matter that they are the least culpable. They're expensive. Buh-bye. Then they move to the writers. Outside of Frons' micromanagement of stories, definitely very culpable. They most assuredly should be fired -- BUT why are all three of your soaps doing poorly simultaneously? Brian Frons - that colleague they see in the hall every damn day! He should be the FIRST to go!

Thanks for the update Errol. It sounds pretty serious if the affiliates are involved. They are the ones who actually own the local stations right? It shows a lack of real leadership if they have to push for change over Frons. He should have taken action a long time ago. And it is such a shame that I have to root for poor ratings in Nov. so there can finally be change.

It is just so sad that Frons let the ABC soaps get to this point. And the ones that will suffer will be the vets like Julia Barr. I think Frons should be one of the first ones fired along with all the writers instead of the actors. And I will just continue watching Y&R in the meantime.

The plot thickens. Thanks Errol for the update. Glad to know that the affiliates are getting involved, because they mean business. Without them any network dies, and ABC Daytime (especially AMC and OLTL) is close to show business death. Both shows are horrible in my opinion, and I have not watched OLTL in months and am considering giving up AMC. The bad outways the good on these shows, and while I like one or two stories on AMC, its not enough to keep me watching all of the other crap. With that said I hope Mctavish's rein of terror is soon over before she completely ruins AMC to the point of no return.

Do AMC or OL have any shot at a good sweeps? That is the saddest part here. OL's continuing the status quo of destruction. More new characters announced, more pimping and nothing to suggest there is a light at the end of the tunnel.

UGH her being around till February is BAD! AMC is gonna get killed for sweeps, GH has that in the bag with the return of Genie Francis.

It's not in the bag. GF's return should give a spike to ratings, but the bigger question is if they did really capitalize on it. They have not used previous returns (Finola Hughes, Emma Samms, Tristan Rogers) very well at all -- and Frons' comments about GF ('no one wants to see a middle aged woman in a love story') doesn't bode well . OLTL's execution of Todd should have had a huge ratings increase in the bag, but they squandered potentially terrific storylines (the search for Todd's son, Todd's and Blair's revenge on Spencer, the impact of a sane Margaret on the canvas) all in the name of saving Spencer Truman. Ratings fell .4 points as soon as it became evident that wasn't the tale they were telling.

Many lapsed ABC viewers are angry at the network, not just 'lost interest', and have found other things or other soaps to occupy their time and energy. It's gonna take a lot of wooing to get them back if it can be done at all, not something I see current TPTB willing to do on ANY ABC soap.

Ironically, fans are leaving because of departures (OLTL DG, TW, HT, probably HBS, TDS and CH will be completely gone as well, AMC: VI) -- yet the solution to falling ratings is going to be to cut more, and we know who will be first on the chopping block.

Many lapsed ABC viewers are angry at the network, not just 'lost interest', and have found other things or other soaps to occupy their time and energy. It's gonna take a lot of wooing to get them back if it can be done at all, not something I see current TPTB willing to do on ANY ABC soap.

There is so much truth in that statement. It's one thing to be apathetic and lose interest, it's another thing to be angry. OLTL seems to be going out of their way to piss off viewers. It's going to take a lot to make up for that, if they can. Seems like they have two choices: (1) find that elusive audience they believe is out there (which so far remains unfound per the ratings) or (2) make nice with the audience who has stuck with the show through thick and thin. They appear to have rejected (2).

Thanks for the update Errol. Its reassuring to know there are changes coming.

Cutting loose veteran actors is only going to hurt the ratings though. Frons should be the first to go naturally.

I fear for who they actually may cut. I mean who is safe anymore?

Thanks for taking the time to post Errol.

So what are good enough numbers to get Frons out of the hot seat? If GH starts pulling 2.6 and 2.7 again will that do it? If AMC and OLTL start pulling 2.5's again will that do it? Or are we talking about real improvement here?

So what are good enough numbers to get Frons out of the hot seat? If GH starts pulling 2.6 and 2.7 again will that do it? If AMC and OLTL start pulling 2.5's again will that do it? Or are we talking about real improvement here?

Good question. Regardless of what numbers they are looking for, Frons must be hanging a lot of hope on Genie Francis. Ironically, maybe JFP too.

That is a really great question!! I wonder what TPTB would consider an improvement in ratings or what would be a failure. Maybe it will be a comparison in how the ABC soaps do against the CBS/NBC soaps. The ratings could go up for AMC/OLTL but they could remain in sixth/seventh place. Also, the demos are pretty important. If they continue to do poorly in the demos, I imagine the ABC higher ups won't be happy. I think the important demo is the 18-49 but correct me if I am wrong.

I guess how they do in sweeps determines the advertising rates. How that is figured I have no idea. Everything comes back to money so if the rates they get aren't great, then I imagine more cuts will be made.

I am just speculating. Maybe Errol has a better idea/explanation.

I actually agree, I think GH will win sweeps, cause people are gonna tune in to see what Laura's return will be like.

Thanks Errol, I was wondering how long it would be before the affiliates stepped in.

I think GH will definitely take the ABC lead in ratings next month. Purely because out of the three, I think GH is the strongest show. At least two major plot points will be happening this November. Laura's return and Alexis taking action concerning Ric and Sam.

AMC is a mess right now. McTavish is not even taking care of the crap she has on screen. It's like she either is aware that her ass is thisclose to termination and figures what's the use, or she's unaware and believes she's in the catbird seat and can just write whatever she wants. All I know is that uselessness is spreading like a rampant virus on AMC. Jonathan is useless. Annie is useless. Bianca's useless. The JR/Babe/Josh triangle is useless. Sean is useless. Dear GAWD, the "Who Killed Greg Madden?" storyline was utterly useless because nobody CARED about him. We were supposed to care because Josh wanted closure? I know I didn't because I detest Josh and everything he represents.