I was an avid fan of the Grey's until they made Meridith and George sleep together, and what happened during those scenes turned me off the show a bit........It was uncalled for and made me want to shoot my TV......

It doesn't surprise me about Shonda, because when the cast members have been interviewed about the show on the red carpets and on the entertainment shows; they seem to get kind of nervous or twitchy when Shonda's name is brought up....

Wait, that turned you off? Why? It was totally in character for a slut like Meredith. The girl will screw anything she meets at a bar. Hell, the only shocking thing about those scenes was that the Walking Clit didn't meet George at a bar.

I think it still has a chance against CSI, but I expect both shows to lose about 3 or 4 million viewers due to this.

ABC made the stupidest decision to move GREY's from Sunday nights (the lead-out of DH) against powerhouse CSI on Thursdays. I understand that the network needed some ratings on that night, but come on!

And with "Ugly Betty" being moved from Fridays to Thursdays at 8, as part of a lead-in for GREY's, that will NOT be successful, IMO. That show looks horrible.

And as for the creator doing all of those things... WOW. Geez lady, let the freaking actors have lives. She actually blocked them to not go outside the studio...

Agreed about the stupid decision regarding the Grey's move to Thursdays.

But dissing "Ugly Betty?" Not cool! That show looks hilarious and highly entertaining. It's modeled off the most watched telenovela in the WORLD. You know that right? So that means it's a proven hit. Like "American Idol," I think it might cross over well. The actress playing Betty looks like a hoot! She sure is 'Ugly,' and she seems to have the chops for good slapstick!

But dissing "Ugly Betty?" Not cool! That show looks hilarious and highly entertaining. It's modeled off the most watched telenovela in the WORLD. You know that right? So that means it's a proven hit.

Have you ever seen a pic of the REAL "Betty La Fea"?

Most primetime actors DON'T work on outside projects while filming is in session. They are free to pursue whatever they want during the "off" months. Considering the average show is only in production 22 weeks of the year, that leaves plenty time for actors to shoot films and do whatever. It is not standard practice of any network or studio to let actors do a show and films at the same time.

Hours for single-camera shows are CRAZY and even if the rest don't have the work hours that Ellen Pompeo does, they still are working a lot.

It's unreasonable for a show to have to work around an actors' schedule, especially a single camera one.

Most primetime contracts are 6-7 seasons. The actors of "Grey's" would be fools to try to bolt. So many primetime TV actors have this foolish idea that since they are hot [!@#$%^&*] in TV, that this will translate to automatic success in film. Wrong! A lot of film people don't care for or watch a lot of primetime TV.

A lot of the actors who "make it" in films after primetime are usually from Industry-loved shows, usually quirky and smaller. A lot of people from "watercooler" shows don't make it, for a variety of reasons - Film people aren't that mainstream, and their primetime altar-ego actually pigeon holes them into a specific type of role. Which is frowned upon.

Heck, even Oscar winners have difficulty finding work.

I think ANY actor is LESS important than Shondra Rimes. She's the showrunner, the most important person of any show. Most shows start declining rapidly after their original showrunner leaves. There aren't many examples when a new showrunner maintains the quality of the one who proceeded them.

No, I hadn't.

Cool pics, though.

Did you have a point?

The show is overrated anyway. Unless the diehards tune in, I don't think it has a chance against CSI.

THANK YOU!!!!!!!

And the writing sucks. I can't believe anyone would get a big head over the show. It's not that great. I still love Patrick Dempsey though.

But dissing "Ugly Betty?" Not cool! That show looks hilarious and highly entertaining. It's modeled off the most watched telenovela in the WORLD. You know that right? So that means it's a proven hit. Like "American Idol," I think it might cross over well. The actress playing Betty looks like a hoot! She sure is 'Ugly,' and she seems to have the chops for good slapstick!

The difference between IDOL and BETTY is that IDOL translated to America with its original format. The show would not be the same if every judge on the panel was some nice STAR SEARCH judge that gave and tabulated scores.

BETTY was ordered as a weekly primetime series, instead of the telenovela it was supposed to be. That alone is doomed for failure. It would be like another country ordering an adaptation of SEINFELD and making it into a daytime soap. That kind of thing just won't work. At least MyNetworkTV has the balls to put their adaptations on every day of the week.

BETTY will be a terrible lead-in for GREY'S. But I'm glad the trash was taken out of Sunday Night. I'm SO looking forward to Calista's Conservative family on BROTHERS AND SISTERS. Bring on the family drama!

Is it really a Conservative family on "Brothers and Sisters?" Because something did SHOCK me about the promos for that show. I don't know if you were aware, but that song is by a Contemporary Christian artist. That song is all over Christian radio. I was surprised to hear it on an ABC show (read Satan's channel) promo.

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OMG, you guys. Now I'm REALLY going to disagree about "Ugly Betty." I had NO IDEA that the D-I-V-I-N-E America Ferrera will star as the title character. I saw the promos and really thought they hired an ugly girl! Who knew it was her underneath all that "Ugly" makeup?!! Wow. She is one of the hottest actresses out there, due in large part to her figure and acting chops. This is IMMEDIATELY Must See TV!!

The difference between IDOL and BETTY is that IDOL translated to America with its original format. The

BETTY was ordered as a weekly primetime series, instead of the telenovela it was supposed to be. That alone is doomed for failure. It would be like another country ordering an adaptation of SEINFELD and making it into a daytime soap. That kind of thing just won't work. At least MyNetworkTV has the balls to put their adaptations on every day of the week.

BETTY will be a terrible lead-in for GREY'S. But I'm glad the trash was taken out of Sunday Night. I'm SO looking forward to Calista's Conservative family on BROTHERS AND SISTERS. Bring on the family drama!

Yes!

Word!

ITA!

They SHOULD NOT have changed Betty's country of origin. Making her Mexican is a HUGE CLICHE, they should've kept her Colombian.

Plus, the original story isn't set at a fashion magazine. IIRC, it's a fashion house/publicity place.

THey're probably trying to ride the coattails of "The Devil Wears Prada" in the American-ized version.

THey're probably trying to ride the coattails of "The Devil Wears Prada" in the American-ized version.

I loved Betty la fea and I just don't see the English-version lasting long. Ugly Betty isn't going to do well b/c they based the show on the telenovela, meaning that they're going to try to condense a daily serial into a primetime show. And the fact that they're turning it into an hour-long comedy, instead of a drama.

Also, there's a huge cultural difference that's too complicated for me to explain right now. The roles of women in Columbia and the United States differ so much. If they had kept the setting in Columbia, it would have been a lot more interesting. Instead, they're changing it to Mexico, and probably (correct me if I'm wrong) are going to set it in the US, making her an immigrant...or maybe the daughter of immigrants. So I'm sure that they're going to be using the stereotypical mexicana model for the character.

Who cares? It's freakin' AMERICA FERRERA!!!

As far as GREY'S is concerned, I dunno, but I've been wanting that deck of cards to fall since its success bumped BOSTON LEGAL to Tuesday Nights, a night of the week I NEVER devote to broadcast primetime programming. That, and I think the show is a primetime ripoff of PORT CHARLES. GREY'S is basically PC with trendy bands and shock-value medical mysteries.

Amen! BL is an awesome show. I can't believe ABC did that, considering that it wasn't as if the show was doing terribly on Sunday nights. I like GA, but not like I do BL. And now it's up against SVU, so it's like a lose-lose situation for me, since I love both shows.

Also, the thing that I hate about GA is Meredith. She's such a witch. Everything about her annoys me. Her voice, her face, ugh...her entire personality. I don't understand why the others even put up w/ her. I'd just ignore her if I were one of them. I hated how from the beginning, she was always favored over the others b/c her mother was a famous surgeon and b/c she banged her boss. The other characters are what make the show interesting.

I think it still has a chance against CSI, but I expect both shows to lose about 3 or 4 million viewers due to this.

ABC made the stupidest decision to move GREY's from Sunday nights (the lead-out of DH) against powerhouse CSI on Thursdays. I understand that the network needed some ratings on that night, but come on!

Greys will survive. I think people are going to follow Greys and its storylines which they're already invested in, over CSI's standalone episodes. Plus, the female audience is not gonna surrender the remote during that block - it'll be tuned to ABC.

JMO.

As far as GREY'S is concerned, I dunno, but I've been wanting that deck of cards to fall since its success bumped BOSTON LEGAL to Tuesday Nights, a night of the week I NEVER devote to broadcast primetime programming.

BL and DH were a nice pair, but ratings wise DH and GA were better. So they stuck with it. Pretty obvious business decision.

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OMG, you guys. Now I'm REALLY going to disagree about "Ugly Betty." I had NO IDEA that the D-I-V-I-N-E America Ferrera will star as the title character. I saw the promos and really thought they hired an ugly girl! Who knew it was her underneath all that "Ugly" makeup?!! Wow. She is one of the hottest actresses out there, due in large part to her figure and acting chops. This is IMMEDIATELY Must See TV!!

I didn't know it was America either! But now that I found out it was her, I'm definitely gonna watch

As for GA, they get 4 months off in the summer - fit their projects in there.

Shonda Rhimes is the one with the vision. She's the one who created the parts.

Who cares? It's freakin' AMERICA FERRERA!!!

I am gonna tune in....She made me cry at the end of "The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants."