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I mean, that's a no-brainer for Sony / NBCUniversal to do - they want them to watch on Peacock or wait until it comes onto whatever international services that carries DAYS. They need as many viewers / clicks as they can get in order to keep getting renewed and they're not measured by some flimsy Nielsen rating system anymore; streaming sites know exactly how many that watches, what they also click and watch on the service and duration.

I think Pam and Bobby (and Christopher) leaving Southfork in that red car, leaving JR all alone finally getting what he thought he wanted all those years would've been a good finale. The final shot would've been JR at that dining table, getting served by Teresa with nobody else there.

Which was dumb, especially when these shows started shedding cast members left and right (although KNOTS managed to keep a lot of its cast intact for a long time). You'd think bringing back someone with connection to the canvas would be a good way to help transition the show, but it rarely happened.

Even in 1991 they were afraid of reality programming replacing the soaps. Interesting read.

I mean...

Interesting how similar these numbers are, yet if I read this right, Knots had 12.5% coverage yet had pretty much the same numbers as Dynasty and Dallas which both had around 50%? Makes you wonder if Knots could've done better than both of them with more coverage, but maybe these just overperformed in some and bombed in others.

I'll admit I always thought the whole thing was more of a set up to keep Deidre happy by vaguely promising a spin-off and just keep it permanently in development, but from those articles it sounds like it was ready to go ahead. I wonder what changed their minds, especially once Santa Barbara exited the screens? They ended up premiering Sunset Beach a few years later and Manhattan Lives could've, if not anything else, worked as an effective placeholder (I guess a bit like Capitol).

I guess it depends on how you deal with it really... personally, I'm not really a people person, but there are those that are. Apparently the guy who owns the "real" Casa Walsh is very much someone who'll chat to people if he sees them stop to take pictures. I think he invited the woman who runs IAmNotAStalker.com into the house from memory.

Unfortunately, with How To Survive a Marriage being a pet project plus the line up of Days / Doctors / Another World flying so high I guess they expected more from Return to Peyton Place, despite being slightly higher rated than Somerset. If they had bumped that off instead who knows if NBC daytime had developed differently. Probably not though.

Lots'o'tea about Charmed in this:

I'm just happy a daytime soap is getting a prime time outing.

Really bad year for soap actors as it feels like there's been a lot of young-ish losses. RIP.

Yes, I know I'm starting to wonder if this is the weird stalker dude I had on another forum. It's the same sort of talk and formula. It's stupid to post this in public but yeah, since I was accused of being him it's just weird, lol. But maybe soap opera fans have an over-arching mental health issue we need to deal with.

Ashley Benson's character on Pretty Little Liars was called Hanna Merin

https://deadline.com/2023/12/days-of-our-lives-casts-annalynne-mccord-90210-1235671750/ Signed a one year contract playing "Marin". She was one of the bright spots on the 90210 reboot (the CW version, not the Fox meta-reboot), so I hope they don't screw her character up (they will).

Ultimately, both have its advantages and disadvantages. The advantage of a "found family" / work place / community soap is that you can just introduce characters without much explanation. You don't have to do a contrived backstory for someone to move in or to write someone off. It leaves less headache in terms of having to recast or introducing random cousins or secret children. The disadvantage of course is that eventually you'll have to ask yourself why these characters are even talking to each other, or just doesn't move, especially when there's a notorious schemer amongst them? Even Melrose Place utilised the bad sister bond with Jane and Sydney. Family soaps of course are easier to explain in that way - families will fight and do bad things to each other, but will still be in others lives because blood is thicker than water and all that. I said it before and I'll say it again - airing The City and Sunset Beach at noon was such a mistake when they obviously targeted a very specific demographic (ie people who liked the Fox Aaron Spelling soaps); not saying that either would've lasted for a long time, but it just felt like a death sentence from day one to place them there. They needed to be later in the afternoon. It's like when they moved old-fashioned Love of Life to an afternoon slot. Kids and college students coming home from school wasn't going to tune into that...

what,s a michael culhane? whose amanda?? leslie--what???

I wasn't even born when it aired, but yeah, my impression was always that they handled it with more of a "don't mention what war" approach. Apparently not! It must've been something that filtered through considering they modified it later when they could mention the Vietnam war. It's my bad! But glad to have it clarified that they did mention it on air.

Thanks! I was about to tag you if you knew more, but looks like they mentioned it on air.

To be fair, from what can be deciphered from sources it seems like they went the route of not specifying what war he was in instead of saying it was the Korean. I imagine that it might be what was said backstage rather than on-screen.

To be fair, having sex on the regular would've probably solved a lot of JERs issues (or lead to a suicide/murder case).

It both is and isn't a shock. On one hand, it's still one of ABCs top performers in live ratings... but doesn't do well in delayed, the international sales seem dismal and you don't hear a buzz about it on streaming. They never gave it full proper seasons either (the most it ever got was 18 episodes) and there really wasn't a reason for it (ie production or having lead actors who wouldn't commit) so the writing was always on the wall that it might not have been that profitable. I guess with Vernoff leaving and cast contracts being up this season they saw no reason to keep renewing it.

Was it confirmed it was Tyler Perry was where he was going to? Either way, a lot of shows are getting delayed and outright cancelled due to the strike. Could be what happened to him.

Honestly, if they're going to continue to invest with Chanel and her bakery, they might as well build a small indoors set with a small café part with chairs etc for characters to chat / meet at.

I mean, they've not released Fernwood Forever (the follow-up to MH, MH) so I'd think that would take precedence than a little known syndicated flop.