Everything posted by te.
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Amazon to shut down FREEVEE
I'd assume part of this might be because they're looking to launch in more markets? Better to just try it with the Prime app since it's already launched internationally than to try and promote a separate service.
- DAYS: February 2024 Discussion Thread
- DAYS: February 2024 Discussion Thread
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Ratings from the 70's
Just like I've pointed out that it was a mistake to place younger-skewing soaps like The City and Sunset Beach in the noon, moving Love of Life was also dumb. It very much gives off the vibe of your "grandmother's" soap and was probably a good fit for the earlier time slot when those viewers are at home. Expecting those kids, students and younger people that might come home in the afternoon to suddenly start watching Love of Life was idiotic, but then again... ... it was probably this. They could get rid of a somewhat middling performer by making it tank in the late afternoon by appearing to give it a shot as it was just a win-win situation for them here; either it bombs and they're rid of it, or it performs unexpectedly well and fixes a late afternoon slot for them.
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ALL: Which back-from-the-dead characters should have stayed dead?
I liked how it also kept Allison as an important character despite being off screen with a fate unknown - we saw the characters move on, but every now and then the consequences of her departure would flare up. Was Allison a victim Rachel's uncle? Did she really go off to New York? And so on. Ultimately, people go missing and unfortunately aren't found in some way or another. There's a reason why Charley Project has 15k+ cases. And sometimes, people do bizarrely turn up out of nowhere. Unfortunately, I think the whole "let's kill the character off" (beyond short-term thinking with ratings stunts) is a way to not deal with a characters absence and have the characters move on with their lives.
- DAYS: February 2024 Discussion Thread
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Primetime Soaps
If anybody was wondering, Freshman Dorm quickly killed this off post-pilot and had Justin Lazard join as the Rebel Without A Cause (aka the Dylan McKay for college) character. In the third episode we get to know more about he-of-the-leather-jacket in the California heat - he can not only recite Shakespeare from memory (in a particularly awkward moment when a teacher got confrontational, something which I've never experienced irl) and had an abusive marine father who didn't appreciate how his son totally had his head in the books at the library.
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ALL: Which back-from-the-dead characters should have stayed dead?
See Allison just walking off on Peyton Place into the unknown, or Stella Chernak leaving town as a disgraced woman.
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Falcon Crest
I'd assume it might turn up on whoever owns Lorimar's catalog at worst? I don't think they'll let it lay on the shelf after all that job digitizing it. But another FAST service seems likely.
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NBC Daytime
I think this is what trips us up with their shows having high clearances - yes, they were airing the shows, but at what time? I also imagine that it would screw up any nationwide promotional efforts for these shows. Why did NBC never push back on this, especially later in the 90s when they attempted to launch Sunset Beach? Maybe they had hoped that affiliates would choose the best time slot to optimize the ratings for those soaps, but clearly that didn't happen.
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Primetime Soaps
It did apparently serve as the theme song, yes. I doubt the show had any fans to make fan edits either way...
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Primetime Soaps
Well, Freshman Dorm is on archive.org at the moment - it aired together with 2000 Malibu Road during the summer of 1992 as counter-programming against 90210 and Melrose Place. It stars among others Robin Lively, Matthew Fox and Casper Van Dien. I will say it's sort of a basic soap set up - three girls from different backgrounds sharing a dorm room and it's definitively soapy. You have the naive midwestern girl (Lively), the hispanic girl from a blue collar home having to work to make it through college and the rich tart who loves all the guys (but has especially taken an eye for the lone black guy at the dorm). I'll say it's very soapy from the start and would've made a fun night along with 2000 Malibu Road - shame they threw it away on programming it against THOSE 90210 summer episodes as it stood no chance against manwhore Dylan cheating with that snake Kelly against poor innocent and sweet Brenda! If CBS had actually programmed the shows another night and been able to order more episodes they might've gotten something going with that elusive 18-49 demographic.
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DAYS: Doug & Julie Remember Tom & Alice! | promo (February 16, 2024)
I've said it before and I'll say it again - this will basically lead to new paint, re-stuffed couch and maybe some throw pillows if they managed to steal enough pocket change from the actors. That the chair would survive the fire and not be completely smoke-damaged at least is lol. I'm not sure if the backstory of Tom and Alice will be sweet or a trainwreck. Hopefully they went back to the source material for that as I recall they did write a bit of their background in the OG storyline bible. I think Julie (and Doug, for now) re-building the Horton house isn't the worst storyline.
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Primetime Soaps
Promo for Aaron Spelling's little heard of The Round Table, which debuted on NBC in the same season as Melrose Place: Theme songs:
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Knots Landing
I feel like they could've also just explored more with LilliMae's background and why she was so against proper mental health care... they seemed to hint a lot that there was something very wrong going on there during the Chip storyline, then of course Val's breakdown, then Joshua's religious fervour. I think it would've given Julie Harris Emmy-worthy material (even if she wouldn't have won anything of course lol), but maybe it would've been too heavy-handed for Knots at that point?
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Knots Landing
It definitively feels like something changed between seasons six and seven for his character - they seemed very much to focus on the fact that he was detoriating mentally and that there might be some issue in LilliMae's past surrounding mental health (which would've tied nicely into Val's breakdown that season), but suddenly he became very one-note villain until he died imho. I also don't think he got physically abusive with Cathy until season 7, which was a line too far.
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ALL: Which back-from-the-dead characters should have stayed dead?
This. I'm generally fine with being back from the dead if it's the usual vague soap opera death, but if you have them die on screen that should be it, as regrettable as that is for some characters.
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Loving/The City Discussion Thread
It's always sounded to me like Loving needed to choose what they wanted to focus on - young adults from different backgrounds at a university, with maybe parents as more of a recurring presence, or the class struggles of different families? If it's the later, then they needed to cut down the main families to two to be able to make a coherent 30 minute soap. If it's the former, then they could have students from varying families, but mostly keep other family members off screen and just have them drop in as the plot dictated. It just sounds like trying to do too much and not really ending up with much at all in the long run.
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Classic Primetime Miniseries - Trashy or Classy?
I just don't buy Candice Bergen as the vunerable type who's just been hurt by husband. I think she was also just miscast in the part and needed another actress to pull it off.
- DAYS: February 2024 Discussion Thread
- DAYS: FIRE! | promo (February 9, 2024)
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DAYS: Behind the Scenes, Articles/Photos
Worth remembering that the possession only lasted as long as it did due to OJs trial and it being able to keep people's interest. A lot of things that JER did probably wouldn't have happened at that point due to not being necessary, plus the possession being able to compete during the OJ trial really seems to be a reason why he got such a strangle-hold of the show. Wasn't his stories on Guiding Light somewhat normal? I'd look towards what he did there to see what he'd do on DAYS.