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OC Well, we have ended the season with a cast of broken women. Tamra's scenes as she prepared to see Sydney were a little challenging to watch given that we knew the reunion would not be lasting long. She seemed legitimately nervous so it's sad that they couldn't make it work. It's amazing we've watched Tamra for 10 years - I remember when she turned 40 (on a yacht proclaiming "I'm 40 I so deserve it!" as she received a tasteless Rolex from Simon) and now she's 50. She looks way younger and more natural now, I'll give her that. Shannon continued to overreact and look like a bloated fool. Production got her having "a few quick shrimp"...the cameraman was obviously on orders to obtain every moment of footage of her eating. She seemed so stupid in her fight with Peggy (editing backed up Peggy). Hopefully her wretched marriage is over. Kelly also has a wretched marriage. She and Michael just don't get along anymore. They seem exhausted and done with each other. I think Vicki was right when she said that Kelly trusts Michael...when she needed him he's been there for her. Hopefully they can have an OK divorce and be friendly when it's all over and I have some hope that's what will happen to them. Peggy had Shannon shook with one sentence and a smirk. For that, I am grateful to her. However, she is a one season wonder and shouldn't return. Diko is a way better cast member, he can stir up trouble in a diamante studded suit with the best of 'em. Lydia and Meghan were non-events this episode and neither of them should be returning next season, especially Meghan. I couldn't believe how dumb her speech sounded "King is my maiden name...and Aspen's middle name...so yeah, thank you for coming tonight." I can't stand her matte lipstick and how painfully mediocre she is on every single measurable level. Vicki remains the OG of the OC and elements of this episode reinforced why. She has her insurance business which keeps growing, she remains a midwest woman traipsing through these OC events a bit like Mister Magoo and I'm rooting for her and Steve. A pity that Brianna is moving to North Carolina and demonstrating what an ungrateful bitch she is in her statements about moving away from Vicki. This was one of the OC's weakest seasons. However, when that good old guitar music starts to play I'm reminded why I'm ride or die with this franchise. DALLAS Strong season, strong reunion, THIS is how these franchises should be produced. Tight, no filler episodes. Thoroughly enjoyed it from start to finish. Soap suds were in a major lather on this franchise all season and I have lapped it up. LeeAnne took a (mostly deserved) beating from the rest of the housewives and Dr. Mark Deuber. Brandi also took a well deserved smackdown given all the crap she'd said this season. Brandi shouldn't have been so stonewalled to LeeAnne, she may need her help if we get a third season. I was quite impressed about what Stephanie said concerning Mark picking her son up from soccer practice when she couldn't make it. She could have stayed silent but that little story said a lot about Mark. It was also very good of her to tell Brandi what she said about Cari and Mark was wrong and how disappointed in her she was. Kameron was a non-event. I am not a fan. They'd be better off replacing her. D'Andra is a great find. Up there with Dorinda. I only wish we'd gotten a segment with Miss Dee Simmons.

I'm finally caught up on the first two episodes of Atlanta and you've taken the words out of my mouth: it all seems really fake and contrived when it comes to Kenya. She isn't a great actress and cannot pull off a fraud convincingly. As well, Porscha's vegan storyline is contrived and ridiculous. Why is her dietary choice a storyline? And why throw all that food away? She is a bandwagon fool. Is it just me or does Nene look as big as a house? Was she even in the second episode? Chauteau Sheree appears to be finished...good for her. I still enjoy Sheree. Kandi and her paid for sycophants continue to be very annoying. What is Cynthia thinking going back near Uncle Ben? And then this toddler? Cynthia seems to have dodgy choice in men.

I can see that. I recall her appearing on the game show The Weakest Link and she was stunningly dumb.

Lindsay Hartley came off as an immature airhead and really difficult on Queens of Drama. There was something about how she interacted with that guy she was dating that seemed like she'd be hell to deal with - really dramatic fights and lots of whining. I was in The Gap in Vancouver when Justin was filming Smallville and he was with Lindsay and their daughter. They made an attractive couple (he was super tall in comparison to her, and she's tiny)...it's a shame when marriages don't work out, but at the same time...his reaction speaks volumes.

CHESHIRE This last episode was so good. A drink got thrown and the reaction and background music was straight out of a classic Erica Kane moment. This season, as a whole, has been excellent. Much as it pains me to admit it, Ampika didn't derail the franchise by leaving.

OC has been been torture to watch - so nasty and boring - why do they withhold BH from us?! LVP looks like the boss that she is in that coat and those shades. I too wish she’d cut her hair, but overall a fabulous look.

LeeAnne is like any of the Housewives, she's all hat and no cattle. If she walks, then that's a gutsy move because she'll fade away into certain obscurity.

I think they handled Rosario's death well. Shelley Morrison was on an electric scooter for the Will & Grace election for practical reasons and so I can understand her wanting to be retired. Megan Mullally did great work in that episode. As an aside, I didn't realize she's 59 in real life!

OC Vicki never learns...but I also don't fault her. Why bother fighting anyone else's fight? It never works out. She's always hooped. She can't win. She's in her 50s, why fight any more than she has to? Shannon is the medical patient from hell. How did she just go off her hormones?! That is insane! Doing that haphazardly is a recipe for disaster. Peggy really calibrated that attack improperly. I did enjoy her jab at the Giraffe. Brilliant. Thank goodness next week is the finale. What a wretched season. DALLAS A good part one of the reunion. I still like Stephanie and don't view her with the same negative view that much of the thread views Brandi (who also doesn't really bother me). Cary imploded at the end of the episode, but I cannot fault Mark for wanting to be on the reunion given how badly he was trashed. Kameron is a haughty snob who didn't like to have to deal with the statements she made about living in the best part of Dallas. She's an assh*le with that zip code stuff and she knows it doesn't reflect well on her and she tried to deflect it. I still really enjoy watching LeeAnne, she's a reality show star - tailor maid for the genre. D'Andra is still plenty of fun and I just wish we'd had a cameo from Miss Dee.

Speaks to the quality of the posters in this thread.

+1 - It's my favourite thread on the board - thanks Cheap!

NJ Another enjoyable episode watching Siggy lose her mind. I cannot imagine she's happy with how she's coming across in these episodes, she appears insane. Danielle stirs that pot beautifully. Still really enjoy Margaret.

LeeAnne is easily best dressed in that reunion.

There's Ashley Abbott...I mean...D'Andra, proud of her new Jabot launch. I must say, the name of her brand: Hard Night, Good Morning, is brilliant.

+1 on both counts. D'Andra and Miss Dee at Jabot was an awesome storyline for this season and I really want to see more of it next season (please Bravo, another season please?). LeeAnne won me over too. She is harmless and can laugh at herself non-stop. Once she wore that hot dog costume I was sold. And YES TO MELBOURNE! That commercial is excellent. Bring it on, it has been missed.

I agree with @Cat that it looks like Wendy might have had a TIA (mini-stroke) live on air. That is frightening because a TIA is the drumroll before a major stroke. I like Wendy, I root for her, and I think it wouldn't hurt for everyone to say a prayer for her and her health.

OC Meghan remains one of the dumbest and most insensitive people I have seen on television. What a piece of garbage she is. We all know Jimmy couldn’t be bothered to deal with her pregnancy, but damn, she is hateful to a person in need. Even Shannloon, who detests Vicki, had some concern in her voice and went into Vicki’s room to offer some small amount of comfort. Even Tamra looked legitimately concerned. Kelly disappointed me but she was also one of the few to understand that you need to get out of the doctors way and not make it about you. Peggy was concerned but it wasn’t about Vicki, it was about her own issues - and that’s fine, she’s been through a lot. It was interesting to see Shannon seething with rage and jealousy when Tamra and Vicki were talking and crying. Tamra is right (!) that she needs to move on with Vicki. DALLAS What a fabulous season. Perfect arc and length of a season. This is how the franchise should be done. It was interesting to see LeeAnne and her mother in therapy. It’s clear why LeeAnne is messed up. She comes by it honestly and I think sincerely knows there is something wrong. The brunch went as expected. It was interesting to see Kameron back up LeeAnne - for no real reason - especially as the editors used footage to demonstrate the truth. Cary is a gold digger but I enjoy her. Brandi is tacky but classic Texas in that regard. Stephanie I still like - I think she has a dark sense of humour that I enjoy and her marriage seems improved over last season. By far the best moment was D’Andra and Miss Dee Simmons and the handover of Jabot...er...I mean...Ultimate Living and the missing L22 ingredient. The handover was classic soap. D’Andra on the verge of tears, her mother doling our classic advice about learning from mistakes and then admitting that she is 77 and exhausted. When Miss Dee theatrically proclaimed “You are going to do more with this company than Dee Simmons ever could!” I got chills - all that was missing was some Y&R classic orchestral music. THAT is how you do it.

I have to agree - I don’t think he likes women. This opinion has been developing for a while now, seeing how he treats some of the wives with contempt (ie the strong ones like LVP who won’t get pushed around)...Andy is on a career slide of his own, and has been for a while now, his meanness is going to get the better of him, he just doesn’t seem to know it yet. Kathy’s career will never be the same again, but it’s been in decline for years. I just wish Joan Rivers was around to counsel her. I would respectfully disagree @DRW50 that Kathy has been anything but a staunch defender of the LGBTQIA community - I don’t think she means any harm with the “my gays” comment, nor do I think she considers her gay friends accessories. She does a lot of quiet charity work for the community and has done so for 20+ years.

Really enjoyed the episode. Sean Hayes' material is the strongest, by far, and his comic timing is so enjoyable to watch.

It's Housewives adjacent, but Kathy Griffin has claimed Andy Cohen offered her cocaine both times she appeared on WWHL. Andy has denied it... http://deadline.com/2017/10/kathy-griffin-harvey-levin-andy-cohen-bravo-tmz-donald-trump-women-1202196777/

Shannon’s statement to People Magazine states that she blamed people outside of her marriage when she shouldn’t have - I’m currently on my phone and can’t be bothered to copy/paste it but it’s worth reading. It’s a good basis for moving forward. If Shannon’s smart, or at least into self preservation, she’ll make amends with Vicki to at least some extent. Vicki has nothing to do with Shannon’s marriage imploding. Vicki isn’t going anywhere.

About time, Shannon. And welcome to next season. Sigh.

The 15 second opening is embarrassing. The oil font superimposed over the photographs of the cast actually looks more outdated than the original. Where is the announcement that it's gotten a second season? The ratings keep declining.

Lorenzo was miscast in the role of a fire fighter stuck with a boring daughter and Sydney Penny - if they'd cast him as a burned out male model, past his prime and working as a gigolo, needing to score either a new big money gig or a sugar mama, he would have soared.

FINALLY. Truth comes out. Shannon should be ashamed of herself that she's lied over, and over, and over again about Vicki's statement about David. Trying to blame Vicki for ballooning. That bitch. OC Thank goodness for Iceland because this season has sucked. It was very interesting to see Vicki look out for Lydia like she did - quietly, subtly - this is why I still like Vicki, despite it all. I'm also glad the editors turned on Shannon with that comment about her being childish. She is insufferable. The only thing I can say for Meghan is at least she looked glamorous in that fur hat. Otherwise, she remains painfully irrelevant and needs to go. Vicki was exhibiting all the female symptoms of a heart attack: hot, exhausted, pain, pale and puking. I hope it isn't that, but good for Kelly and Peggy for calling the ambulance. DALLAS Glorious. This season has been so enjoyable I do hope we get a season 3 with this existing cast. It's the perfect number of episodes: 12 plus reunion - so refreshing! Kameron's ridiculous dog food launch was the perfect backdrop for what unfolded. Her detente with Brandi will not last: we know it and so do they. I was touched by the scene with Stephanie and Travis and Cruz. Takes a big man to admit he was basically an outcast as a child. Travis has shown some different sides to himself, much to his credit. D'Andra in the lab was so Ashley Abbott at Jabot in 1999 - I loved every second of it. LeeAnne continues to be enjoyable. She is just wild enough, with a sense of self awareness that makes me laugh. Her confrontation with Mark was so calm and mature and it seems they both find Cary frustrating. Cary basically must return given that her image has been imploded.