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Bingo. Not to mention she's one of Pandora's best friends and has known the Vanderpump-Todds longer than anyone has even known of Trashbox Glanville.

Nene isn't friends with Natalie/Chris and invited them to the pillow talk just for drama's sake as well, which you conveniently ignore.

Lol@Nene getting the "bitch" edit. Um Vixen, I love you but that is bull [!@#$%^&*]. The producers can't make this bitch act out and show her ass. She does that all on her own.

This.

Bethenny should just have a seat and enjoy her wealth, but obviously what she enjoys is being in the public eye.

My boyfriend and I binge watched the first four episodes yesterday, and maybe its because I don't watch and have never watched any of the shows you guys are discussing, but I loved it. I hated Patrick at first but he's growing on me. I much prefer Augustin's hot boyfriend, than him.

Have you ever actually found any man attractive. In the years and years now that we have posted together, I literally cannot recall a single time you spoke complimentary of anyone's appearance.

Showing that flashback of Brandi from season 2 was a mistake last episode, that bitch has DESTROYED and continues to destroy her face.

I don't think I'll be able to sit through that for every episode. I mean there have been some bad lines in the past but...wow. So weird not having Luann in the opening. I actually agree with that. I feel as though the BH women are very much about protecting their "brands" outside of the show, that they do most of their dirty work in the downtime.

This is actually the second time Atlanta has kept the exact same cast from one season into the next(I don't even count Kim as a part of season 5). They typically don't do a ton of maintenance on ATL as opposed to OC, which has always had a high turnover.

Omg, Eric you're joking right?!

I honestly blame Bethenny lol. As much as I loved her back in the day, she made it popular to be the "witty, voice of the audience" and housewives have been trying desperately since then to do the same. I find Lisa to be one of the few to do it well. That solidified my love of Heather Dubrow FOREVER.

Every single Housewife on every franchise is paid thousands of dollars to do this though. The shows literally revolve around the women talking [!@#$%^&*] and making digs at one another.

What's interesting is even though you have all these scenes of people talking about how awful Lisa is, she has given production absolutely nothing to work with to show it. We know the producers are the first to jump on showing evidence of these wives being the devil, but they literally have no filmed proof at all. It's literally all talk from the other ladies, thus making them look even more pitiful.

This BH season has truly been awful. What exactly has been the storyline?

In Nene's own words, "Bloop." Production just owned that bitch.

Right?!

Because it WAS Kyle that tried to make something of it, Lisa didn't care.

Lisa wasn't offended to not be invited to DAVID's daughter's wedding. She's not even close with David. And to make a big deal out of her inviting Mohammad to the party WAS desperate. Yolanda is only on the show due to Lisa and Ken's friendship with Mohammad. Even if Mohammad was hosting at his own house, of course they would still send him an invite as a formality and a sign of respect for their friendship. And I dunno if you guys caught it, but Mohammad himself quickly shut down Yolanda when she started trying to talk [!@#$%^&*] about Lisa.

I met Dr. Jackie today at work, she's close with my boss and his wife. She's sooo short, but very friendly.

So watching Brandi spend an entire episode complaining about Lisa, when all that's ever been shown is Lisa supporting that trashbox was quite pathetic. And watching Splits Richards literally salivating at Brandi hating on Lisa was again pathetic but expected.

I just don't get Brandi's angle or goal. They've been trying to take Lisa down since freakin season 2 and it NEVER works. The more they try to paint her in a bad light, the more it backfires...Lisa is too smart and savvy to be taken down by classless Brandi and those washed up Richards sisters.

bloop!

Finally watching...This is not a good look for Cynthia, not one bit. Say what you will about Phaedra, but I do love that she and Kandi have a truly genuine friendship off camera and it shows onscreen. Um why the !@#$%^&*] did Mal jump in at all?

That's great JP, I was just letting Cheap know I disagreed with her assessment on that front. I'm also a gay black man, just throwing it out there before I get labeled anything.