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If I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times: love can save the world, but it couldn't save GL, lol. Same here! Besides, as fond of GL as I'll always be, that epigram? Not so much.

It's in her book!

Basically, they were people who weren't good enough to be on "The Love Boat" (...and the original Sky Masterson).

I think ATWT's last opening was what all soaps need to be in this day and age: just a simple title card with some dramatic "sting" playing underneath (although, I could have done without the globe rolling across the title like some roll-on deodorant). And I LOVE Kim Zimmer's description of GL's last anniversary opening: a bunch of hairy-ass arms reaching out to other hairy-ass arms, lol.

As they say in France: "un chèque de paie est un chèque de paie".

Fred Silverman arrived at NBC looking for higher tone, and then settled for this:

I wish Cyrus' death had been one of those "City Confidential"-like killings, where the entire town bans together to bump him off; then, when the authorities step in to get to the bottom of things, everyone claims they were hiding under the same pool table when it happened, lol.

ICAM! And even Douglas Marland supposedly was aiming to "keep it simple" with his own soap, "The Soul Survivors," which he was working on at the time of his death; talking with SOD about his plans to focus only a handful of (meaning, 6-8) characters at the start rather than bombard viewers with a whole lot of characters they don't know and don't care about.

Years ago, I read an old article where Douglas Marland discussed GH, which he had just joined after writing THE DOCTORS. Among other things, he complained about the PJ/Steven Lars storyline, saying it was too coincidental that Peter and Diana Taylor would adopt Jeff and Heather Webber's baby, even though the adoption had occurred outside Port Charles. I wonder whether he felt the same about the storyline surrounding Philip's origins. IIRC, the Marlers and Spauldings all were living in Chicago at the time of Philip's birth and "adoption." Yet, it just so happened that Elizabeth and Jackie shared the same obstetrician (Dr. LaCrosse, maybe the best last name I've ever heard on any soap, lol); that Jackie's baby would be available (in Switzerland!) right at the same time that Alan and Elizabeth's own baby was stillborn (also in Switzerland!) and that all four would end up living in the same town again years later.

I agree. Of course, a lot of great moments in soap history have occurred during trials. But - like you said, @Chris B - those moments were outcomes of equally powerful storylines that built up to those moments. It's like with everything else that used to happen with soaps but doesn't anymore: you have to take all the necessary steps to get the audience to the point where they WILL care, or else it won't work.

That goes without saying. Frankly, I'm pissed that Cyrus is dead (for now). He didn't kill off nearly enough people.

An intriguing part of Laura's past that has never been fully exploited, IMO. It would've made so much more sense to tie Cyrus to that part of her life, for example, than to make him and Martin her insta-half-siblings.

I agree that it would have made more sense for Nancy to be opposed to Duncan and Jessica's relationship, but as another poster mentioned upthread, Lisa was more involved with the two - or at least with Duncan - than many others were (which says a lot about how Duncan was integrated with the rest of the ATWT cast, lol).

At best, it was NBC overplaying GENERATIONS' historical importance within the genre. At worst, it was sabotaging a new show (that only certain people at the network really believed in) before it even had a chance.

I've said this before in the GENERATIONS thread, but what that show needed was something more contemporary (none of that ragtime [!@#$%^&*]!), with glammed-up shots of cast members in and around the city (yes, like on B&B, lol). That's what I love about the BTG opening: no one's giving a history lesson on Negroes in the Americas. It's just black (and non-black) people posing and looking fabulous. The way it should be.

"Don'cha know? BLACK PEOPLES WUZ DERE, TOO!!"

Seriously, y'all, it can't be more terrible than this:

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Jesus will not send you to Hell, because you were shirtless and performed a love scene on a daytime soap opera. If you're worried that being half-naked on TV will wreck your marriage OR your covenant with God, then you've got other, bigger issues to work on. Stop using God as an excuse to be a holier-than-thou moron. He hasn't the time for that, and neither does anyone else with even half a brain.

The thing is, if Frank and/or Ron WERE to launch an all-gay soap, it'd go through the roof, especially with the LGBTQ+ community; because, like it has been for many years with Black audiences, ANY representation is better than no representation at all. ICAM!!

My grandparents knew many entertainers who'd pass through our area, including Miss Horne. One thing I do remember them saying - along with the fact that Tina punched and slapped around Ike just as much as he punched and slapped her around - is that Lena Horne was stuck-up as the day is long and not as "down" as she protested to be. (Nancy Wilson, on the other hand, was very bougie, but way more supportive of Black people).

"On the next BODY & SOUL...".

I agree.

They always do, lol.

It was always great to see Tamara Tunie on "L&O: SVU," even if the producers often had to stretch credibility just to get her into episodes. (Most notable: the time she helped Stabler defuse a bank robbery/hostage crisis, with the sudden explanation that she had served in the military or something, lol).