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Trump always has looked that way. Even way back in '85 or '86, when he did that cameo with Valerie Bertinelli in "Judith Krantz's I'll Take Manhattan," the man looked lost in his own building, lol.

Exactly! That's what I still love about her and Sam Hall's work on the show during the early and mid-'80's: even when the stories became a little more "out there" than they had been before, their writing managed to make it feel like the things that were happening were completely within the realm of possibilities. They never seem to lose the earthiness that made OLTL so special in the first place.

ASJ might not be Hispanic or Latino, but he ain't a WASP either.

No doubt, when Trump finally does breathe his last, Katy Tur and her ilk will be saying how serene he looks in his casket and that maybe - just maybe - he's finally realizing how serious the presidency is.

I agree. LOL!!

Which pisses me off to no end, lol. No offense to Queen Latifah, or to her fans, but speaking as one who grew up watching the original series, I'll always prefer Edward Woodward and his mix of steeliness and fatherly concern over her or Denzel. Last night, I read Edward Zwick's new memoir, "Hits, Flops and Other Illusions;" and apparently, execs at ABC were very upset when he and Marshall Herskovitz elected to end "thirtysomething" at the end of its' fourth season. (Up to that point, the show had been the most gratifying experience of Zwick and Herskovitz's careers; but after four years, they felt they had said everything they had wanted to say with those characters). In exchange for allowing them to end their show on their terms, Zwick and Herskovitz promised the network another show...which is how "My So-Called Life" came to be.

Translation: she actually sat down and read the script.

I wouldn't either, lol. By the time those scenes had aired, the wheels had long come off from Rauch's OLTL. But a part of me, at least, suspects THIS is the kind of drama that influenced Carlivati and Valentini to a great degree.

I feel like moments such as the one posted above with Julia and DuAnn represent the kind of OTT melodrama that Frank Valentini and Ron Carlivati still hope to recreate, but just don't have the cleverness or skill to pull off.

I might be way off-base here, but I think Biden and his administration had no other choice BUT to act after SCOTUS had granted Trump blanket immunity for all illegal and unethical acts he had committed while he still was in the WH. I mean, what else COULD you do after the highest court in our land has basically said the president is no longer a president but a king? If I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times: this is all due to our having the audacity to elect a member of the Ooga Booga Tribe as our leader. White America just. Can't. Cope. Exactly.

But to do this to a BLACK man who has a long history with this show (not to mention an Emmy)? Tell me you're a racist [!@#$%^&*], Mr. Carlivati, without even opening your mouth.

What Ron Carlivati is doing to Abe is nothing short of emasculation.

I'm so sorry.

Claire Labine herself said that Michael Brockman had told her at the outset that the network probably would go with B&B.

For me, the natural place to reunite Gary and Val was during her "Verna Ellers" phase, when Gary travelled to Shula, Tennessee, and helped Val reclaim her lost identity. Primetime isn't like daytime. Audiences' patience is much, much shorter.

That's the key: if you're going to tell a story that could be depressing to viewers, you have to surround it with lighter stories, or else viewers will get sick of all the heaviness and tune out.

LOL!!

I agree. I think CBSD - and more specifically, Brian Frons - felt SFT was past its' prime, with an aging, if steadfast, audience.

Like I said a long time ago, I think even yours truly had played Patti for awhile in the late '60's, lol!

IKR, lol?

I could understand Jason thinking that Michael Delaney had "turned" his brother (even if that mindset is CLASSIC homophobia), but I never understood why he felt shooting and killing him on live TV was the solution to the problem. Did Jason believe Kevin would go back to being heterosexual if Michael were dead?

I think you're right, @Vee, because I do recall feeling the Tina/Cord/Cain storyline taking an unexpected turn when I was expecting it to wrap up.

On the one hand, I was ELATED when that story was FINALLY over. Even at 11-12 years old, I was like, "This is the hottest mess I will ever see!" But, on the other hand, I feel like the Lechowicks didn't go far enough with it. Val falls on her head and contracts a "brain virus;" yet, the worse thing she does is cut her hair, change her wardrobe, and boil her kids' hermit crabs? Come on, lol! I say, if you're gonna tell a story THAT crazy, you gotta go full-tilt with it. Have Val do more than just change up her hairstyle and fashion sense and be rude to everybody; have her seduce Mack (or at least try to)! Have her plot to maim or kill Anne for sleeping with Gary (or so she thinks)! Have her take the kids and flee the city, Reva Shayne Lewis-style, when she mistakenly thinks the people who kidnapped them years ago are trying to kidnap them again! The only thing worse than camp - and make no mistake, Val's brain virus was the ESSENCE of camp - is camp with punches pulled. And thank you, by the way, for mentioning Jill. Every time I watch a particular episode of "Murder, She Wrote" where Teri Austin (or, rather, her character) is exposed as the killer du jour and arrested, I always think, "What Gary and Val Ewing couldn't do? Jessica Fletcher did!" Oh, you have NO idea, lol! By the time Gary and Val DO reunite, you're pulling for them, not because you want to see them back together and happy, but because you just can't take any more obstacles between them, lol! I see your point. Abby was one who never liked being out of control, and for her to see Gary - who, from her point of view, should have been happier, because he was rich - so out of control like that...? I think it made her rethink that moment when she told Val how she loved Gary for what he could be and not for what he was. Moreover, where could they even have GONE with that story? You know jail time and/or large financial settlement with the boy's parents were out of the question, so what was the point?