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I have to say, David A Gregory is not someone I'd expect to see do stage work... (is that mean?)

Yes, I mean if they can find enough interesting things to make an oral history of Texas, surely the Loving/City one could be fascinating (and hopefully clear up a lot of these eternal questions.) You know that I pretty much agree with you about The City. Also in its final months it was the only show of the three ABC ones I watched that I felt like was showing signs of actively improving (to be fair this was when Broderick's AMC was starting to not be great, and a bad time for OLTL so part of that was just in comparison.)

Right. I think it survived the 80s as "grounded" mostly in comparison to how outrageous the other soaps were getting. (I mean the obvious parallel is seeing AMC and sister soap OLTL in that decade, and comparing them.)

I've been meaning to ask, is there any footage of her as Maggie? That was around 1979 right?

Aww and Angelique with Dimitri... I suspect I am the only one who actually kinda loved Angelique and felt sorry for her (hey I was 12 and new to soaps and I think somehow I related to her lol...) Around the same time I saw Season Hubley (sp?) on a rerun of the Partridge Family... I will say it was a dumb idea to get Morgan for such a short contract. Sure it may have worked for Rosemary Prinz when AMC started, but Though I thought the biggest mistake The City made early on was the Masquerader (I think??) serial killer storyline--just because Loving's ratings had improved during their storyline which had JUST finished it felt like. But I'll save the rest for the Loving folder (I'm game for a party though--funny it both seems far more recent and somehow even longer ago that The City finished.)

Yes! Wonderful.

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Ah, I didn't know that! I was never a GH watcher so she was new to me when she was on The City (well--I was aware of the character, kinda) I actually thought it was only when she joined that The City started to find its footing.

Thanks for that great Loving site link, Franco! I don't think Jeremy got much of a send off on AMC at all though I'm sure he must have had SOME exit scene that I don't remember (surely he said goodbye to Erica?) Some of those cross overs confused me--the whole Carter stuff was heavily advertised (some of the ads are on YT) which is how I found out about it, but, for example, when Angie was brought on AMC, I still think they should have acknowledged it on AMC (maybe brought her on to AMC first for a bit) because I feel like a lot of AMC fans simply didn't know the character had returned even if it was to a different show.

Right--was Genie back on GH already? Jeremy and Ceara DID have a quick cross over to Loving, I want to say in 1991 a year before the big Carter cross over. They were going through relationship issues--I forget how they ended up there (one went there for a break I guess?) but I seem to recall Kate locking them in a... garage? until they'd hash it out.

At least she performed--I guess In the behind the scenes specials they talked about all these chances the show will have to feature singing, etc--and yet up to this point (and I'm not sure this even counts) we've always started scenes with characters sitting at or by a piano apparently just having finished singing together...

I cringe whenever we see (most of the) outdoor location establishing shots just because I truly hate those modern mansions (McMansions as my grandma calls them) and find them so ugly--and yet, of course, I fully believe that a community like this would be completely full of them. But, unlike when they used to have establishing shots in the 80s of the rich character's houses on All My Children, say, they don't make me wish I ever lived there (don't get me wrong, I would happily take the wealth.) (Yes, sorry--just a random thought while catching up today.)

Oh dear. Right in the depths of McTavish's year and a half (or maybe even shorter) second run and her obsession with mysterious blonde women (besides Joy--which was connected if I recall correctly with Hayley's psychic tattoo, we also had Jack's sister Kit.) Speaking of AMC and the Gothic, she certainly did try to bring that vibe (and ABC seemed to be pushing AMC to do more pseudo supernatural stuff anyway--by all reports from talking to Hal Corley at the end of Broderick's stint the voodoo stuff was largely pitched to appease execs who wanted more of a DAYS vibe.) You're a bit younger than I am--I just turned 45 last week (siiiigh) But I think you're absolutely right. I was so invested in AMC (and then to a degree in OLTL--no big surprise, I started paying attention to it when I noticed the Billy Douglas storyline) that I would literally constantly dream about it, when bored at school would wonder what I had to look forward to on today's taped episode--as horrifyingly embarrassing as this sounds, it really felt like this magical alternate reality lol Interesting that someone mentioned the obvious parallel with the Gloria/Adam/Alec stuff and Lady Chatterly's Lover. I mentioned how the Carter Jones story went into a Cape Fear riff, the whole Wildwind saga was a mix of Rebecca, Jane Eyre and Lady Audley's Secret (mostly remembered now for it's use of a well...) etc etc. AMC at this time really did crib from a lot of movies and lit, but I guess Agnes Nixon especially was always somewhat known to do that (Imitation of Life inspiring the OLTL Carla and Sadie story back in 1969) and by no means do I think, at least the times it was well done, was this a bad thing...

I remember at one point they had a montage of him working out at the Chandler (?) gym (when he was working for the company but trying to seduce or turn on Gloria) and poor sheltered teenager me was so nervous someone might walk in and see me watching it... Yes, it was a part of the Carter Jones storyline I was kinda obsessed with and crossed over with Loving (which made me start watching that show which I had never even heard of before at that point. Melody Anderson (who 12 year old me already knew from Flash Gordon) was the recast and it was such a different take on the character--I guess they felt it made sense to make her more meek after the accident, but... Carter felt guilty (he wanted to harm Trevor) and then became obsessed with Natalie, posing as her nurse when she was blind and I guess falling in love with her. This included a Cape Fear inspired houseboat storyline (I think the Scorsese remake of that film had just come out.) Though my timeline is off and I can't remember if this was before or after or *during* the Loving crossover stuff (I think that was the climax of the Carter story so probably before.) Carter wanted revenge on Trevor I believe for Trevor representing Galen (remember her?) in her harrassment case against her ex Carter. And all I remember about her regaining her site was that she looked up at a Christmas angel on their tree and realized... She could see it! And yet after all that, within a year, she was dead (she had found out that Laurel was embezzling if I remember correctly from her charity--and her and Adam drove to confront her and got in a car accident and Natalie ended up braindead. I always find it in hindsight kinda amusing when a character goes through a health crises, is healed, and then a year later is killed off anyway. *Apologies to Khan who I see basically gave this outline more succinctly above, which I didn't read until I went on my rant down memory lane.* It was Agnes' return to AMC that hooked me on the show, and on soaps in general (I was a kid who thought they were the most awful thing ever--probably, not that I watched them and I didn't grow up in a family with a tradition of mothers/grandmothers watching) so I might hold that era of AMC in too high esteem, I'll admit. But I absolutely love it. Will be interested to hear your take.

It's hard to know. Hal Corley said the entire time he was there she was a regular participant of story meetings even when she wasn't credited (we do know that when McT became credited headwriter they created an "executive headwriter" position for Nixon though that was never on screen and I'm not sure how long it lasted.) Corley also said, though, that for the most part when Nixon wasn't credited HW she would be respectful of story decisions and only occasionally interfere in them and suggest her own.

Five or so years later when there's more custody stuff with Dixie, I remember how endlessly she sang You Are My Sunshine. And the endless Pierce recasts didn't help. Still, I guess I find Barr so appealing that her terrible stories didn't bother me as much as they might have. You're husband makes being addicted to soaps sound like a BAD thing I believe during this time Agnes Nixon was heavily involved with the writer's room and it does seem like one of her stories, but who knows. DePriest's stint is odd for so many reasons though I do get the sense that she was brought in as one of FMB's choices to shake the soap up from the ratings rut it was under--but I always wonder if it was always the plan to have Nixon return for the 20th anniversary?

Yeah, I was a teen when all this aired too and maybe now would feel differently, but I was completely on Janet's side for her redemption (as crazy as it sounds *now* when I read story recaps.) We also of course had her mother visiting and showing us just how abusive she had been. Well you're not alone--Eric as a circus clown I think made a number of magazine "worst story" lists... Brooke is one of my fave soap characters of all time. I remember after she left the show (when Frons wanted her demoted to recurring and Barr decided to just leave instead) I actually had dreams where she came back to AMC and I was so happy lol So I loved her involvement in the Hulu version--it was disappointing that David Canary wasn't able to act more, but we now know why that was.

Yeah sad--and still pretty young. I admit, I may have hated much of the writing for his character, but always kinda had a crush on him...

Ah I never got that far with my online relationship that he would suggest "donations" lol

I will--I didn't know about the cancer. I will say with Josh I thought it was ironic (but typical of AMC in that era) that Colin did some of his best work on the show only once the character was already being killed off. They gave him material with Susan Lucci where he finally addresses what a toll it was for Josh that she never accepted him, etc--stuff the show should have done years before. (I also liked when they had his character flirting with Greenlee which at that time showed way more potential than Greenlee and Ryan again, but of course they dropped that. And then to have his character steal from Zach (which seemed justified to me ) and eventually shot by him. Ugh. But I know that was Pratt and not McT.

Absolutely not. I mentioned that I brought them up to Hal Corley and quickly realized that was the stupidest thing to do (especially with him as he just won't say anything at all rather than say anything negative about anyone he worked with.) But he certainly wasn't aware of them, nor has anyone else in the biz I've hinted around about them with. You might almost think they're written by someone else as a parody--when they showed up in Nixon's archive it was just such a shock of "WTF??" that this thing even existed. I'll have to check out Colin on Insta

Thank you! I used to be in FB contact with the uploader but he disappeared from FB around the same time as he did from YT (I know because he used to beg me on FB to make comments and upvote his videos everytime he would post them lol)

I believe some things in her archive definitely were put there after Nixon passed away and weren't necessarily found in her papers but rather someone felt they should go there. BUT you're right, that usually how it works is someone would have found it in her papers and I can only imagine if she did read it. Wow. As for where McTavish is now isn't she still breeding big dogs or whatever? (I love dogs, but just can't imagine McTavish being a nice breeder lol)

Judging by the introduction, which she may have written last, it sounds like it was written after the AMC, OLTL cancellation announcement, but before they went off the air... So 2011? You know I think Del v.2 was also from that contest--or was it the other soap reality contest? But you're right... To me Colin was always one of the hottest soap guys physically, I mean I know it's subjective but--and I thought he was a decent actor actually, who stepped up to the plate for some of the dramatic stuff (I lost track of the actor after he initially was on the failed Melrose reboot) Of course he was also miles better than the originally cast Josh (who I remember came on the scene and immediately hooked up with Dani in a kinda creepy mode given she was still a teen? They kinda just forgot that. Ha nevermind (I should read all these posts before replying.) I remember him being handsome enough in a very bland way, but certainly not a good soap actor. Oddly it's in the archives where Agnes Nixon's papers are at Northwestern (Nixon's alma mater). Your guess how it ended up there (as well as some of her outlines though that makes more sense) is as good as mine--I can only assume McTavish sent it there herself, since she's still alive, but it's all beyond weird. Keep in mind in the intro she also says she's retired from the industry--so she probably doesn't care who she throws under the bus.

It always amazes me on TV when someone had just gotten passed out drunk and hours later seems fully functional (just a little tired lol) I mean obviously it makes sense for dramatic reasons to have them sober up, but... One other drunk behaviour annoyance--if Dani has been hitting the vodka bottle regularly for a while now--would she really have passed out drinking a bottle of wine the other day? From a relationship I had I know a bit about heavy drinkers and that wouldn't track at all (I guess she could already have been drunk when she showed up at the house which would make some sense...)