Everything posted by janea4old
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Y&R May 2024 Discussion Thread
Nina has popped in occasionally in the past few years. She was at the Abby/Chance wedding. She has appeared when the surrogacy storyline was starting, and when baby was born (in person and via video chats) occasionally. She pops in every few months. She was at the Genoa City gala that aired in March 2023 for Y&R's 50th. She appears when Chance is in the hospital, etc. Nina has also shared scenes with Christine/Cricket when she was divorcing Paul. The actress Tricia Cast lives in Nashville as her late husband was a musician there. Tricia Cast is real-life friends with Lauralee Bell so she stays at Lauralee's house whenever she films a Y&R arc. They post BTS pics of themselves hanging out whenever she visits.
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Y&R May 2024 Discussion Thread
@DRW50 more details on who lives at C-Mansion. Okay I remember now. When Chance and Abby got married a few years ago, they moved into the C-Mansion together, and that's when Kevin/Chloe/Esther children bought the house and moved out. Back when Abby&Chance got married, Mariah was maid of honor and Devon was the officiant, in a plot device to say they were all close friends, despite us never seeing that onscreen. Abby wanted to get pregnant but was having trouble staying pregnant due to past history from several years prior (scarring resulting from a miscarriage caused by Stitch's young son pushing her down the stairs). Meanwhile Chance was shot or injured somehow and they said his sperm count was low. Chance and Abby were going to try fertility treatments or surrogacy, etc etc. But meanwhile the actor Danny Boaz who played Chance violated COVID rules and got fired, so they said Chance was off on some secret military operation overseas. Then there was the INSANE plot of Abby wanting to IMMEDIATELY find a sperm donor and a gestational surrogate so she and Chance could be having a fetus growing WHILE Chance was still overseas on the secret military mission. Because poor little privileged white rich girl Abby had been trying for a baby for only a few months and needed it fixed immediately. She cried on friends' shoulders and Mariah became the gestational surrogate and Devon was the sperm donor while Chance was still overseas. Devon was dating Hilary's twin Amanda (played by Mishael Morgan) and Devon was living in his own condo. Mariah&Tessa were a committed couple (not yet married) but when Mariah became the surrogate, Mariah&Tessa moved into the C-Mansion together, so Abby could be near the baby. The whole thing was this weird thing of the Black man and the lesbian woman servicing the white heiress. I mean the show may have intended to write it as a supportive community working together lovingly to bring a baby into the world, which could have made sense on paper.... But the optics of how it was done, and the bratty nature of Abby .... The baby was born. They named him Dom (D for Devon and M for Mariah) aka Dominic. Mariah and Tessa moved out of the mansion eventually. Chance was recast with actor Conner Floyd and came home from overseas after some ordeal/battle/bombing situation. He arrived home after the baby was born. Chance, Abby and the baby lived at the mansion, as it was his family's mansion. Chance was written as having PTSD or some sort of inability to connect emotionally as a result of the bombing/battle/whatever overseas in which some of his comrades died. He returned to working as a cop for the GCPD. He refused to cater to all of Abby's emotional needs and she got annoyed, because she wanted him working less and pampering her more. Meanwhile, although Devon was only the sperm donor, he wanted some role in the baby's life. He asked for partial custody and eventually Chance and Abby agreed. So the child had three parents legally. Meanwhile, Mariah and Tessa eventually married and adopted their own daughter. The Abby/Chance/Devon baby Dominic spent half his time at Devon's condo and half his time with Chance&Abby at the C-Mansion. Abby would drive the baby back and forth. She began to bond with Devon. One day, when Devon's girlfriend Amanda was out of town, Devon and Abby had sex in multiple places all over Devon's condo, and at that moment --- Chance and Amanda walked in and saw them together. Amanda left town. Chance amicably divorced Abby because he felt she belonged with Devon. Abby moved into the condo with Devon. Chance remained at the C-mansion. The baby remained in joint custody of the three parents Chance/Abby/Devon. One day, they decided that it was too much hassle for the baby to be brought back and forth between the condo and the C-Mansion, and they felt that the child would do better at the mansion full-time with a backyard etc. So then the three parents decided on a new living arrangement. Devon and Abby moved into the C-mansion together. Chance got an apartment near the C-mansion, so that he could regularly visit the baby there, and the baby could easily visit Chance occasionally. (Chance's apartment was never shown). Lily now lives at Devon's old condo. The three of them (Chance/Abby/Devon) still all co-parent their son Dominic, although it's mostly off-screen. Chance was dating Summer Newman and talks with her sometimes about parenting since she's stepmother to Kyle Abbott's son. Chance tells anecdotes about his son. Meanwhile Chance quit his job as a cop and now works at Chancellor-Winters with Devon, Lily, Mamie, Nate, Jill, Billy (and Esther as receptionist). Abby owns the Society Restaurant but recently hired Tessa to run it, so that Abby can be on the board of Chancellor-Winters, so she works there now, too. However, the Chance actor (Conner Floyd) was abruptly moved to recurring a few weeks ago, so I don't know what's happening with that.
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Y&R May 2024 Discussion Thread
Esther at one point got a certificate in alcohol counseling but that was many years ago, and I don't think she ever used it. She stopped working as a maid. She hasn't lived at the C-mansion in a long time. Esther's daughter Chloe and husband/boyfriend/partner/whatever Kevin have two children, and bought a house, and moved out of the C-mansion. Esther moved into the house with Chloe and Kevin to help with childcare, as Chloe was working in fashion and Kevin was doing tech consulting for the police. For a while Esther was shown at the park with the children (or they would show her walking toward something at the park, indicating that the children were just out of view offscreen.) I think Bella was a little girl and baby Miles was often depicted by a stroller as soaps often do. But I don't think those children have aired since before COVID? Chloe and Kevin are rarely shown since Greg Rikaart has been fulltime contract on DAYS for a few years. They let him film maybe two episodes of Y&R a year and he remains on contract at DAYS. Chloe's house hasn't ever been shown, she of course does her design meetings at restaurants. Chloe has done fashion with Chelsea in the past, and interior design more recently with Sally. Chloe rarely mentions Kevin but if she does, its a phonecall or a mention that he's at work or with the children. She recurs very intermittently. Meanwhile, in 2023, Sharon inherited a technology business from the deceased Cameron Kirsten. Sharon hired Esther to manage Crimson Lights while Sharon runs her tech business. (The show has never shown Sharon's business office). Also meanwhile (I forget if it was before or after the Crimson Lights hiring but close in time), Devon and Lily hired Esther to be a receptionist at Chancellor-Winters. So Esther works in *both* places. When she was offered the jobs at Crimson Lights and Chancellor-Winters, Esther said she was glad to have a job because Chloe's children were old enough to no longer need fulltime care. I think Esther was able to work out arrangements so that she could work in both places.
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2024: The Directors and Writers Thread
When you posted the spreadsheet a few months ago, I think Toups or Errol said we already have people doing some or all of those things here at SON so it's extra info not needed? I guess this thread is for writers/directors/producers only; whereas that GH spreadsheet also has actor episode counts by episode, and other details from episodes; which is more than is needed on this writers thread. And we already have a SON member doing GH actor episode counts. For what it's worth: I will say that I have been following that spreadsheet-maker Rachel for a long time, and she's even more picky about accuracy than I am. But her work stands on its own, so I don't know where it would fit here at SON.
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DAYS: June 2024 Spoilers
Vaughan assures. “The truth always comes out, and so many more things will come to light. Everything will unfold eventually, and the payoff will be great.”
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DAYS: May 2024 Discussion Thread
yes Sonja is firedguy's wife. (I don't name the firedguy, he's not worthy of being named.) She was already on the writing team before the strike, so they are continuing with the contracted writers post-strike. All contracted writers can be let go after their 13-week cycles, just like actors. We'll see in three months who is still on the writing team. (But we don't know if the 13-week cycles continue where they left off before the strike, or if the 13-week cycles started fresh after the strike.) This was discussed back on pages 13-14 of this thread.
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The Politics Thread
Didn't want to defile the Johnny Wactor thread with this disgusting political commentary so posted it instead on the GH classic thread. It's not classic, it's new, but it's GH BTS and I didn't know where else to post it. Cross-posting here since it's a political opinion. Carolyn Hennessy posting about "certain folks". Don't want to give her any energy. It's just an example that this attitude still exists in the USA and there's lots of work to do to change society.
- GH: Classic Thread
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The Black Lives Matter Thread
https://www.npr.org/2024/05/29/g-s1-1525/mlb-negro-leagues-stats-josh-gibson power-hitter Josh Gibson, who was considered the “greatest slugger in Negro baseball leagues” As their statistics enter the MLB record, some of their names have risen to the top of the leaderboards. Gibson, who died of a stroke at age 35 in 1947, is now the MLB’s all-time career leader in batting average, slugging percentage and on-base plus slugging percentage. He also holds the all-time single-season records in all three categories. Gibson’s .372 batting average surpasses Ty Cobb’s .367, and his .718 slugging percentage overtakes Babe Ruth’s .690 — a fitting accomplishment for a man often called “the Black Babe Ruth.” “Josh was known for his home run greatness,” Sean Gibson, his great-grandson, told NPR. “But this shows that not only was he a great hitter, but he was a great all-around player.”
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The Politics Thread
- The Politics Thread
- 2024: The Directors and Writers Thread
The Ficore lists kept getting mentioned and then buried in the huge combined SON thread for the 2023 writers and actors strikes. And they got mentioned and buried in the SON 2023 writers thread. Instead of listing it here in the 2024 writers thread, I made a separate thread at this link:- DAYS: May 2024 Discussion Thread
- ALL: WGA fi-core lists
WGA Financial Core (fi-core) list Posting their full lists of fi-core writers. Most are soap writers, but some are not. The Writers Guild of America has two branches: WGA-West and WGA-East. West and East each have their own lists of fi-core writers. Important to look at both lists. According to their websites, "fi-core is forever", so if you elected to go fi-core for one episode 30 years ago, you are still fi-core today. ___________________________________________________________________ The 2007-2008 Writers Strike was from November 5, 2007 to February 12, 2008. 2007-2008 Fi-core list via The Hollywood Reporter as of April 2008: The info in the article is from lists released by the WGA East and West in letters. This article has a paragraph listing WGA-West fi-core writers, and a separate paragraph listing for WGA-East fi-core writers. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/wga-outs-fi-core-members-109825/ ___________________________________________________________________ The 2023 Writers Strike was from May 2, 2023 through September 27, 2023. This is the 2023 WGA-West list of all fi-core writers in the history of of WGA-West, listed by the year they went fi-core, from 1991 through 2023. https://www.wga.org/members/membership-information/wgaw-financial-core-list EDIT: as of 2025, the WGA-West link is still at same link but has added members as of 2024 and 2025 that are either expelled or newly ficore. This is the 2023 WGA-East list of all fi-core writers in the history of of WGA-East, with no dates listed, from the past through 2023, organized alphabetically by surname: https://www.wgaeast.org/enforcement/wgae-financial-core-list/ EDIT: as of 2025, the WGA-East link is still at same link but now lists years each writer began ficore status. Note these changes in names, comparing the 2007-2008 list and the 2023 list: Cita Maria Arena (aka Maria Arena or Maria Arena Bell) Jeanne Marie Ford (formerly known as Jeanne M. Grunwell) Marlene McPherson (formerly known as Marlene Poulter Clark) Priscilla Kay Alden (aka Priscilla Alden or Kay Alden) James Harmon Brown (aka James Brown) Frances Myers (aka Fran Myers or Frances Myers Newman) ___________________________________________________________________ 2007-2008 fi-core list WEST 2007-2008 WGA-West fi-core writers since deceased, thus no longer listed by WGA-West in 2023: Barbara J. Esensten Hogan Sheffer James E. Reilly ___________________ WEST 2007-2008 WGA-West fi-core writer who is *not* listed by WGA-West as fi-core in 2023: Clem Egan (from PASSIONS) Reason for the discrepancy: Unknown. Possibly deceased, or changed name, or accidentally omitted in 2023, or incorrectly listed in 2007-2008. Clem Egan was on the original WGA-West list, so The Hollywood Reporter did say what WGA said at that time. Archive from July 2008: https://web.archive.org/web/20080716011439/http://www.wga.org/subpage_member.aspx?id=2828 Edit: update June 2024, @JAS0N47 confirmed that Clem Egan is deceased, per a WGA directory that includes deceased members (Link) ___________________ WEST 2007 2007 fi-core list from WGA-West (still listed as fi-core by WGA-West in 2023) Cita Maria Arena (aka Maria Arena or Maria Arena Bell) Darrell R. Thomas (aka Darrell Ray Thomas Jr.) Garin Wolf Gary Tomlin George Clooney Janeen A. Vogelaar Jeanne Marie Ford (fomerly known as Jeanne M. Grunwell) John F. Cosgrove Mark Christopher Higley Marlene McPherson (formerly known as Marlene Poulter Clark) Meg Kelly Michelle Poteet Lisanti Paula F. Cwikly Shawn Morrison Terry A. Meurer WEST 2008 WGA-West fi-core list (still listed as fi-core by WGA-West in 2023) Dena Higley John F. Smith John Ridley Richard Alan Alexander Rick Davis Thomas E. Eberhardt ___________________ ___________________ Full WGA-WEST fi-core list 1981-2023 https://www.wga.org/members/membership-information/wgaw-financial-core-list This full WGA-West list includes non-soap writers who went fi-core in the years 1981, 1983, 1986, 1990, 1995, 1999, 2001, the above 2007-2008 list of names from WGA-West, and those from WGA-West who went fi-core or left the union during 2009, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2019, and 2022. These names added to the WGA-West fi-core list in 2023: Sheri Anderson Lucas Carter Dan Gordon Michael Minnis Mark Pinciotti Ben Poole Matthew Sand Edit in 2025: new names were added to the WGA-West list at same link as starting ficore status, or expelled status, during 2024 and 2025. IMPORTANT to remember that WGA says "fi-core is forever". So anyone listed as fi-core in 2007-2008 was *still* fi-core in 2023. That means that those writing during the 2023 strike could have already been fi-core from previous years, or they could be newly fi-core. We have known for a year that Sheri Anderson is on the 2023 list; but it doesn't necessarily mean she was writing for DAYS -- she could have been writing for any soap, film, show, or project that was "struck" by the Guild in 2023. Even if she were writing for a soap, it doesn't necessarily mean she wrote during the entire five months of the strike. Anyone could be put on the fi-core lists if they worked on a struck project during the strike period - even if it was only for a few episodes or one episode. _______________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________________ EAST 2007-2008 WGA-East fi-core list Per April 2008 The Hollywood Reporter article Priscilla Kay Alden (aka Priscilla Alden or Kay Alden) James Harmon Brown (aka James Brown) Michael Conforti (aka Michael Conforti III) Victor Gialanella Josh Griffith Frances Myers (aka Fran Myers or Frances Myers Newman) Pete T. Rich Added to the WGA-East fi-core list AFTER the 2008 strike: In addition to the 2007-2008 names, there are now these names: Per WGA-East website (dates added not specified)-- added from 2009 through 2023. It is not known if any of these were writing during the 2023 strike: Jon Robin Baitz Mitchell Kriegman Daran Little Josh Selig Tyler Perry Garry Trudeau Of those added to WGA-East fi-core list during the period from 2009-2023, only Daran Little has soap writing experience. He has written for Coronation Street, AMC, and Y&R. But there's no way to know when he became fi-core, it could have been any time in the past 20 years. Jon Robin Baitz became fi-core in 2019 per this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Robin_Baitz and this https://variety.com/2019/biz/news/jon-robin-baitz-wga-agent-defy-fire-caa-1203190402/ _______________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________________ There is no information on these lists that we didn't already know. We've known for a year that Sheri Anderson is on the list starting 2023; but it doesn't necessarily mean she was writing for Days during the 2023 strike -- she could have been writing for any film, show, or project that was "struck" by the Guild in 2023. Even if she were writing for Days, it doesn't necessarily mean she wrote during the entire five months of the strike. Anyone could be put on the fi-core lists if they worked on a struck project during the strike period - even if it was only for a few episodes or one episode. ______________________________________________________________ My understanding is that Writers Guild members who worked during the strikes or otherwise violated Guild rules, can be classified as no longer in good standing with the Guild. They are then ineligible to vote in Guild votes or receive Guild awards, but can still work per national labor rules that apply to all industries. The history of fi-core came from the auto workers union https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_core#Origin These were the WGA 2023 strike rules: https://web.archive.org/web/20230923000657/https://www.wgacontract2023.org/strike/strike-rules-faq with more detail here: https://web.archive.org/web/20230923000717/https://www.wgacontract2023.org/strike/strike-rules ______________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________ Non-writers (never in WGA) who unofficially wrote during the strikes ... were maybe not listed on the fi-core lists. It is important to note that people who were never writers Guild members to begin with (such as receptionists, accountants, janitors, friends) if they helped out during the strike - if they were never WGA to begin with then (maybe) there would be no record of them, and they would not be on the fi-core lists. However, if they later tried to join the WGA, and the truth came out, no idea what would happen then. This is a 2008 article about the 2007-2008 writers strike. Note that it mentions that sometimes nonwriters were secretly writing during the strike. https://web.archive.org/web/20240109234634/https://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/21/arts/television/21soap.html- The Politics Thread
Trending on twitter "There is a god"- Y&R: Tonya Lee Williams Says She Won’t Ever Be Coming Back to The Young and the Restless
Tonya Pinkins just did an interview with SOD a few days ago. Here's what she's up to now: https://www.soapoperadigest.com/content/catching-up-with-amc-atwt-alum-tonya-pinkins/- Soap Hoppers: The Soap Actors And Roles Thread
I watched her. I wrote about it here: (link to my post)- Y&R May 2024 Discussion Thread
That pic of KL and SC together was on both the SOD website and on soaphub. It must have been filmed, weird that it was cut.- Y&R May 2024 Discussion Thread
These three pics were spoiled for 5/28 US episode by SOD and soaphub: _____________________________________________________________________ What actually aired: ^ screencap of the episode ^ spoiler pic identical to what aired. ______________________ Seems like the Sharon/Esther scene was cut, and instead they had Esther silently behind behind the cash register in the Chelsea/Summer scene. Also noting that Sharon has a purse in the cut scene with Esther, but no purse in the scene with Chelsea.- GH: Classic Thread
I was a teenager when she was playing Meg. So vivid her portrayal of a woman with mental illness. I was suffering from depression myself at the time, and Meg was so intensely sad, I had to stop watching for a while because it triggered me. The actress did her job well. I just didn't have anyone to talk to in my small town.- Y&R: May 2024 Spoilers
Tues May 28 CDN (Wed May 29 USA) Jill is ill and in London being treated by Snapper!- DAYS: May 2024 Spoilers
https://www.tvinsider.com/1137709/days-of-our-lives-writers-return-15000th-episode-storylines/ Ron's first episode back is Friday May 31st.- GH: May 2024 Discussion Thread
- ALL: Soap Stars - Where are they now?
https://deadline.com/2024/05/godfather-of-harlem-rome-flynn-season-4-cast-1235942194/ Emmy Award-winner Rome Flynn is set to recur in the MGM+ series Godfather of Harlem for Season 4. Flynn will portray real-life gangster Frank Lucas, who is described by the streamer as “a country boy from North Carolina who ventured to Harlem and, after initial friction with gangster Bumpy Johnson (Forest Whitaker), eventually rose to become Bumpy’s fierce defender and right-hand man.” Denzel Washington depicted Lucas in the movie American Gangster, but in Godfather of Harlem, his story begins 10 years earlier than in the film. Created by Chris Brancato (Narcos, Hotel Cocaine) and the late Paul Eckstein, Godfather of Harlem tells a story inspired by infamous crime boss Bumpy Johnson (Whitaker), who in the early 1960s returned from 11 years in prison to find the neighborhood he once ruled in shambles. “When I saw Rome’s audition, I immediately knew we’d found our man – equal parts charming and ruthless, savvy and suave. Rome is a wonderful actor who can go toe-to-toe with Forest Whitaker and our other great performers,” said Brancato in a statement to Deadline. ---- He's playing a younger version of Denzel's character! - The Politics Thread
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