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I watched an interview with Linda Gray and she said that Larry Hagman would purposely eat horrible things to make his breath bad for their kissing scenes on Dallas.

I've always read that there was a lot of behind the scenes drama and antics on the set of Beverly Hills, 90210. There seemed to be lots of tension in particular with the female cast members. I know Shannen had her issues with everyone which isn't a surprise and Jennie Garth had some issue with Tiffani. There was also lots of rumors of hookups and drug use, but I think when you have a particularly young cast those things were the norm.

So Empire but for daytime.

I'm just going to leave this here. I was parched because I was feeling this thirst trap

Ugh! I hate it everytime I hear that a couple that's been together that long is getting divorced. However, you don't know what's going on in anyone's life or marriage. But 20 years is a long time, but I guess if you're truly unhappy what's the point. Thanks for the info. I started watching later and I knew Gina Tognoni as Dinah. I personally enjoyed Gina, but I never knew any other actress as Dinah.

I found this as I was watching promos for GL from 1993 on YouTube. This was a special promo for the NYC area as Guiding Light was moving to its new timeslot at 10am. Weird how I've looked for this info in the early/mid 2000s as to when GL moved to 10am on my CBS, and recently have found two sources. Who's the actress in the frame? She's the only one I don't recognize from when I started watching.

I've said this before, I wish there was a like function because there's not much I can add but I agree with your post. I also feel VR has received so much backlash (more so) for speaking out because she is a woman and then the idea that she's just bitter because she keeps fighting the issue.

If you just said this, you would have been better off. I don't understand why VR would want to return to Y&R if she was so mistreated. I wonder why other actors have not also spoken out. I believe VR should try and get others to speak out as well. She's also worked since leaving Y&R so I'm not sure why she asks to be brought back. I don't want to make it seem like you can't have an opinion on the VR situation, because you definitely can and you are entitled to it. But as a white male (as you claimed), saying that you don't understand why VR is the only one complaining and that she must be a troublemaker because she's the only AA saying anything is problematic. Do you think that maybe other AA actors that have faced injustices on Y&R or other shows don't speak up because there isn't much room for AA on TV as it is and speaking up may cost them their career. Sure it's easy to say Shemar has been quiet but he's been working in pretty high profile jobs and being the outspoken AA might not get you the job. This. This is what I was trying to explain to @Fevuh

This is a clear example of white privilege. The fact that it bothers you that a black woman continues to talk about the injustices and poor treatment on a TV show because of the color of her skin. White people don't have to worry about finding representation on mainstream media, because they are well represented. They have plenty of space where they can find roles, where casting directors look like them, where execs look like them, etc. You have the privilege of being bothered by someone else's injustice instead of being directly impacted by it. Also, white privilege doesn't mean you didn't have a hard life or you didn't struggle. You can have white privilege and be poor, homeless, faced discrimination based on your sexual orientation, etc. There is a huge misunderstanding of the term. White privilege means that you didn't have to struggle or endure injustices because of the color of your skin. You yourself sad the cop only pulled you over because of your AA boyfriend, so you agree that race plays a significant role on the perceptions individuals have of certain people. America was a country founded on slavery and those roots of oppression have a hold on our country for its entire history and until there is healing, awareness and understanding things will change very slowly. Slavery and segregation didn't cease to exist in this country and then suddenly we didn't have a race problem. Forms of violence against AA people have been committed in more subtle ways or not so subtle such as disproportionate police brutality cases.

Seems like a lot of the complaints are similar to those we have now, except both budgets and diversity have gotten much worse. When I was reading the comment about the wedding looking cheap and not hiring extras, i was like just wait a few years and you'll hope you had the quality of that 1997 wedding. Also, read an interesting comment of the pairing being forced because there aren't enough AA cardmembers and the show being unwilling to have an interracial pairing.

Bring back Generations. It's 👏 time 👏

Well said. She should be able to speak out about the injustices she's faced and those in the industry, yet still want to be on the show. These are complex issues and she can hold one opinion about the show and her character and another about what she's endured BTS. VR has a connection to the character and is loyal to the fans. It speaks volumes that she wanted to bring Y&R to all those displaced by the hurricane. Besides, she can make more change from the inside taking space at the table than shouting from the outside. The current climate has helped issues like this to get more notice and act as a catalyst and speed up the process, but in most cases change doesn't happen as quickly. VR can seem contradictory by asking to be back on the show and call out the unfairness she endured at the show, but when talking about race and issues of race she's up against an unfair system, besides everyone needs some coin. I have to agree with everyone on Tyler Perry's shows. I always thought most of his work resembled bad daytime soap operas, but he catered to an audience that was neglected for a long time especially when it comes to drama series/serials.

Bravo might want to look into its RH franchises - most are in need of some diversity. Most need cast changes but they keep bringing everyone back. Jersey brought the entire cast from last season back for the new season and there a few of those girls that are so boring they need to go or change their status on the show.

Here's a clip from Guiding Light from 1967 featuring Dr. Jim Frazier played by Billy Dee Williams. Jim Frazier and his wife, Martha Frazier, were the first regular AA characters on a soap from what I've read. May have been posted on the forum before, but thought I'd share here. Dr. Jim Frazier was a hospital administrator at Cedars Hospital. Billy Dee fumbles his lines a bit at the 4 minute mark. Billy Dee has appeared in the Star Wars franchise, GH: Night Shift, GH, Dynasty and other works. ----------- Brighter Day was the first soap to include an AA character as well as the first two have an AA on contract although short lived as the soap was cancelled soon after. Mon, 09.17.1962 First Black actor cast in an American TV Soap Opera Rex Ingram On this date in 1962, the first Black actor integrated American day time television. Rex Ingram, appeared as an ordained minister named Victor Graham on the show "A Brighter Day." In August on that year, the show made history by creating the first daytime television contract role for an Black, but had no time to make much of an impact, as the show was cancelled two weeks later on September 28. Source: https://aaregistry.org/story/first-black-actor-cast-on-american-soap-opera/#:~:text=On this date in 1962,show "A Brighter Day."

Damn you didn't have to out our old as.ses like that. But you're probably right. Besides, let's not pretend these teens haven't heard worse. They are having threesomes at 14 according to Erika on RHOBH. Happy that VR is continuing to push the issue.

Stassi's that obnoxious girl that celebrates her birthday the entire month, so I totally see her crying right now and screaming "But it's my birthday!"

*wrong thread*

I would love this only because Scott Clifton has irritated me since GH. Liam comes off as whiny and entitled to me. Would be nice to bring the character down a few pegs.

Brooke...really? Brooke needs to get herself some therapy and figure out why she seeks fulfillment in all these men instead of finding it in herself. I guess Steffy would be an ok pairing.

Rinna is acting a fool on instagram calling anyone that doesn't agree with her a Karen. Then saying people are unfollowing her because of her BLM support, yet she blocks any accounts that say anything negative about her and the Denise situation. I will say for all of Kyle's faults she doesnt go around blocking people but Kyle might care more about what others think and say about her than Rinna. Rinna seems more like you dont like me [!@#$%^&*] off. I'm glad she's been vocal about BLM, but I hate to say this as I may be wrong but part of me feels as though she's only been as vocal as she is because of the [!@#$%^&*] she's been getting from the fans of the show lately. I'm not saying she's not a supporter, it just seems extra coming from her and I may be completely wrong here. Omg!!!!!!! It took me a minute but I finally realized why these all looked so familiar. 😆

*spits my drink* I don't really follow actors personal lives like that. I had no idea he was married.

Yes, I do think DD wears a piece, but it looks fine. I don't think he could pull off a bald look all that well. Speaking of DD, I just saw that Cris LeBlanc and Greg R from Y&R are out. I mean I always had a suspicion but I didn't know it was confirmed nor did I really go out of my way to find out or search but when on the Y&R page on insta I ended up on their pages and realized they're out. Is Doug D in the same boat or am I reading him all wrong?

It's interesting to note that daytime television has become more diverse as talk shows with a host or panel (Tamron Hall, Wendy Williams, The Real, The Talk, a more diverse The View), court shows, a game show (a black daytime game show host is a rarity) all having diverse faces, but at the same time soaps have become less diverse. I read articles from 2013 saying how diverse daytime has become, but ones shortly after saying soap operas have a diversity issue. In the late 90s/early 2000s it seemed like most soap operas had a Latinx family, (i.e. the Santos family on GL, Lopez family on AMC, the Ramriez family on BB, Lopez-Fitzgeralds on PAS) as the Hispanic population continued to grow through the 90s and the growing popularity of telenovelas on Spanish-language networks. https://tvsourcemagazine.com/2018/02/does-cbs-daytime-women-color-problem-bold-restless-soaps/ I think this article presents a unique perspective on how soaps have failed minority characters (CBS focused). Here's a tidbit stating that BB may have been the worst when it comes to representation on daytime: When it comes to diversity in soaps, I can’t really think of a show that has been at the bottom of that list more than The Bold and the Beautiful. If you wanted to see people of color, historically, this was the last show you would turn to. Which has always been strange to me given that this is the only soap NOT set in a fictional city, but in one of the largest most diverse cities in the country.

Ugh! Love it!!! I also binged it a few years ago and was glad I did. Oh wow! What grades do you teach?

Thank you so much! I love GL because it has such a long history and I thank all of the long time viewers and the researchers for sharing so much information with me. It seems like GL had some missteps on it's long journey and I may have missed its high point, but I feel like their was still something special there (at least in the characters) that made it very enjoyable for me when I started watching in 2003. I can't say the stories were the best of all the soaps I watched at the time, but definitely my favorite. Luckily, we have YouTube to look up some great stuff from the past, but would be nice if the collection was respected and easily accessible on a streaming platform. Can anyone share public perception or personal perception of the Santos family. I also was viewing the profile of Carmen Santos and it was a story that wrapped shortly before I started watching. The whole mob element with the Santos feels a little like GL was trying to ride the wave of its timeslot competitor GH but I may be wrong.