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An entertaining thread.

I'm sorry but I died laughing when they kept the scene going as Victor limped over to the pencils, broke them and yelled again. It was fine til then but that was too much!

I talked about this privately and publicly a couple years back. I deeply hated the writing and really was infuriated by the deification of the character (and Natalie, who Dena Higley clearly hated, suffered as well in this era), but I always liked REG despite having major issues with Evangeline's development. And the fact is she was frontburner, and that was exceptional. And while things could and did turn around for a white lead like Natalie post-Higley, the fact is it would never happen for a woman who looked like Evangeline (or Layla) today on daytime, and that's crazy and unconscionable. I'll repost some of what I said then:

Most of the "Biden hiding" stuff was loudly pushed back on on social media. The narrative did not play for the public and did not poll out. You can't automatically assume one will succeed whenever it appears. And outside of the occasional boneheaded NYT cover headline I am not seeing any of this supposedly hugely positive coverage for Trump. Politically, it's been a disaster. I don't spend all my time in an echo chamber. I do see how stuff plays. But you can't simultaneously say social media won't matter vs. corporate narratives, while constantly worrying about what people are saying on relatively obscure pockets of social media. You can't do both.

But how does that track? Biden's gaffe on The Breakfast Club didn't last outside a day. The Bible stunt has backfired monstrously everywhere, including social media. (I see a lot of twitter and I don't know anything about Biden + shooting someone in the leg) We can't claim Trump is winning the message war on social media bc of fringe stuff, then claim social media never truly benefits us. We can't discount people showing up for Biden there when he showed up on the streets this past weekend, either. I just feel it's needlessly defeatist. As for Biden's speech, I thought it was very good and seems to have gone over well.

People need to stop assuming we know what they mean on every oblique, vague post.

Nope. Failed immediately.

Officially too much to watch!

Above all he is a transparent coward and always has been. When faced with overwhelming opposition in past public ventures that spectacularly failed he always cut and run. I knew he could do it here one day. There’s been a few moments in the past four years where I thought he might break that safety glass, but I didn’t think it would get this far or ever really happen. Now I do.

I'd gut most of the cast tbh. Certainly no Otalia. People would make appearances or slowly be phased back in, but centrally you'd have Michelle's family, maybe Ed, Holly, Reva tending some bar or something and beyond that everyone is pretty flexible. I also might say the Spaulding empire has fallen or moved away, or severely downsize its presence and only keep one or two of the younger ones doing business, perhaps with Phillip in an elder role. AMC 2.0 did a fairly wise clean sweep of a ton of stuff, but I'd do something more drastic after it's been so long for GL, and given our current times. You can build or rebuiId more traditional soapy institutions, like corporate intrigue in Springfield, USA, over time. Other shows like OLTL or AMC can have more trappings off the bat because their foundation is either more baroque and edgy or more plotty, or with AMC simply more of a blend. To me GL's oldest and best strength is its sense of family and its heart. Though yes - I would throw money at Sherry Stringfield to play Blake, scheming local power broker.

You could revive EON in fifty years too, there's so many primetime shows like it. I still think OLTL is the most contemporary in spirit, but AMC and GL are evergreen in the same way to me.

I am sort of inter-mixing my watch of the back half of the LMs, Loving 1994 (and some of '92-'93) and the Y&R classics atm, along with ATWT '86. I remember watching a fair bit of Kim Hunter in the Mansion of the Damned story on EON years ago. I was just discussing trying to dive back into it a couple weeks ago. I believe @DRW50 said there's some good YT playlists.

I do still think you could resurrect GL today, as has been said before, with perhaps a more online-friendly, streamlined setup - the blended Bauer clan under one roof, perhaps with single/widowed Michelle and kids, maybe Ed and Holly, maybe not. (If Rachel Miner can still perform with her illness she'd be welcome.) Generational tensions, Michelle being back because of the economy and her health, etc. Reva and the Lewises, etc. could be threaded back in as well.

Oh, Bragman is scum.