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Let's see how jersey fares this upcoming season before we determine if they need a shake up. NY might need to make an adjustment in the cast. I truly think if brthenny were cut, we coukd actually see more about the other women especially Ramona and Luann. I wish there were more Ramona dating disaster stories but sadly Bethenny is a leech when it comes to airtime. I'm intrigued to see how BH will turn out..with Eileen gone..hoe will Rinna function? Her spokesperson will be gone, so how will she fare? Plus, more scenes of her daughter's making fun of Donna would be nice. That's the one element I loved about early OC...the housewives teen children had talking heads regarding how crazy their mom's were. We saw brief ones of Shannon and Peggy' s daughters making fun of their moms...its a nice added bonus..imho.

Peggy needs to tell them it was a preventive surgery so she doesn't get cancer then change subject. I loved Lydia getting iced out of the dinner. This girl has said she doesn't like Shannon, nor does she like the drama and baggage Shannon brings...so of course, Shannon opts to not invite her and Lydia is surprised/hurt lol. She and Heather Dubrow are more alike then not.

To me, I don't like that most of the original cast (Jesse, Joey, Danny, becky,etc) are back so much. One episode per season would be nice.. But more then that and I forget this is Fuller House and not Full House.

But I wouldn't exactly call that show a quality shoe. It had a mean spiritedness to it but maybe that's what constitutes as funny nowadays. Since Harris is coming from Chicago to Lanford, I'm wondering why unless she had to quit college because one or both of her parents were laid off.

Whitney Cummings is a producer? Gosh, I guess the mea spirited tone the original took in later years will be in tact.

Shana was kind of like Cecile when she first came on...then fell in love and left town...only coming back once she lost her spouse and child...so she was tortured for awhile then she ran AE with Jack for awhile...then decided she wanted to be a mom...and fell in love with the father of the baby. Her character had a lot of shades and different phases she went though. The late 1991 episodes were written by the Mary Ryan M writer...but it didn't have an identity during this late 1991 period. I do think she was trying to reestablish the haves and havenots with the aldens and Rescotts...with Dinah Lee as the spoiler. It wasn't bad whatsoever...but it's non descript. She had three brief stints as headwriter..and she wasn't bad but w asnt good either. Some people are just not cut out to he headwriter..and I guess Mary Ryan M was one. It's a shame nowadays hacks like Higley, pratt,etc are given 1 or more years as headwriters when ok headwriters like Mary Ryan M get a few months at most at the helm. I will say I liked that she invented Giff as a bridge between the haves and havenots...and thought he and Gwyn worked as a couple. I do think she set up some good dynamics and plots with Dinah Lee being a brief spoiler for trucker and trisha...and that allowed months of story once she left.

Do you think RHOA will become NeNe's RHOA? I would have kept Where's as a friend of....it worked well for her because my fab thing about her is her talking head interviews..but she doesn't have much to bring to the table in terms of her day to day life. Porsha needs to go away. Why is she allowed to come back? RHONY...bethenny was great her first season back because I wondered how she would take to the new girls. She and carole clicked, she ignored Kristen, and ended up respecting Heather. Sadly, her return made the show think Heather was redundant...but I still think Heather could have worked with Bethenny back. They're not all that alike..tbh. RHOC...lydia gives Christians a bad name. While Shannon should do herself a favor and quit the show (compare her demeanor in early season 9 to now), Lydia has the same tendencies as Heather Dubrow...and not her good qualities either.

Flynn lasted a good year or so...very tragic ending and caused a lot of angst for Carly...and then another change in regime happened and she was gone.

For peeps who watched the show back in the day, which Betsy was their favorite?

RHOC Shannon..best revenge is ignoring and moving on. If the triad of Shannon, tamra and Vicki return in season 13.. T amra will so ice out Shannon because she's like that...but this would be the one time is give Tamra a pass since Shannon is a small dose type of person. Rhoa: Sheree is a blonde in that promo pic?? I wish Atlanta would shuffle the cast...but they've been so many duds I can see why Nene was bought back...but is Porsha needed? Nope, she's redundant.

I recall in 1994, a vast majority of GL people got nominated...but as the quality of the show dwindled...so did the nominations. I truly think the clone story killed a lot of respect for the show. From what I recall, when KZ submitted the clone episodes for a nomination...the panel laughed. I think the Reba focus in the late 90s and thereafter helped kill the show. And i hated the final scene of the show was Josh and Reva. An insult to.the show.

I'm sure if there is anything between Doritt and LVP..it probably won't explode till the actual season starts...cause u know that talking heads will reveal their true feelings.

Maybe season 4 could show that cooper did save Laura Palmer..and that we are seeing the new present day world...shich could easily explain why certain actors that have passed aren't back.

Found some 1990 episodes from spring to summer, it seems like a show in transition. Was Trask/david/sharla/Melanie an attempt at recreating the glory years of the teen scene early 1980s? Natalie's personify gradually is watered down as 1990 moves forward. Erica caught between Jack and Travis? Erica and Jack were a horrid couple and don't get why they were kept together 9n and off till 2009. The new Angie isn't Angie whatsoever. Decent actress, but it's a different character. She plays Angie more passive and sweet while Debbie Morgan had backbone and confidence infused into Angie. Does this pat/Angie dating the same man last Long? I can see why Debbie Morgan jumped ship if this was the best the shoe could give her. Ceara circa 1990 is a blonde Erica Kane right down to her flirting with Jack.

I agree vets were needed....that wad why it was a surprise Susan lasted so long. She provided great support for Emily and Allison. I recall when she found out Emily was a prostitute and Allison did adult films...and she fell off the wagon. My mom said ' I completely get why that would happen'. It's a shame that John, Lisa, etc weren't used as well fornthst purpose.

Remember when housewife seasons were 10 to 12 episodes with a one or two part reunion..and a lost scenes episode? If the film and episode time were cut down..maybe pointless feuds wouldn't be stretched out so much. Just saying. Also, the inly person Luann was ever truly mean to was Alex especially in season 4. But let's compare where both of them are in 2017... Alex is still married, living in Australia, Simon is studying to be a lawyer, and she's working. Luann just finished a marriage that didn't even last a year and seems like she's not swimming in money as much as she once was. Karma pretty much knocked her down a few pegs. So @Nothin'ButAttitude it could very well happen to Tamra as well...si don't give up hope.

Jeana...how I miss thee I always thought DC got cancelled because the other women refused to film with the Shalis. If anyone needs to be replaced, it's Andy Cohen for being blind to the potential of the other women minus the Whitehouse crasher.

I recall Ana was cut because she w asnt around to film at all the events...cause she was doing her book tour as well as guest co hosting in the view..plus doing her cooking stuff. Of course, I would have me to her on for the fact that she had s tufd going in other then during with the other women. I think a balance needs to be maintained...season 2 of Miami had a great balance between drama, fun moments, and individual segments.. ..season 3 also got marred by the Adriana marriage scandal...and how she cut out Lea, etc.

I watched the first 3 years or so of the show when it was on...i will say the most extreme 180 change in character was Julie Devlin...yet it made actual sense in a weird way. When the actress left in mid 2000..there was a void there in a way since a lot of her stories were quickly wrapped up...the Christina custody story, her marriage to chris...and her and Rachel Locke's cat and mouse situation. While the recast ellen had a hard time following Debbie morgan..i d8nt even think Debbie Morgan could have made the Sebastian story work either. I do tho k recast Ellen and Rachel had a good rapport..mand I hated that the connection they hinted at never was followed through on..nor was Ellen's fate ever revealed I don't recall. Did she leave suddenly..or did Rachel dispose of her?

Lorna...a character that fell by the wayside even before she was recast. I wonder if the change of writers was the rrason.

With Phaedra gone, his other favorite was Nene...would u agree?

I have always been curious about why Andy is kind of anti LVP? Does she throw shade and talk of others behind their back? Of course, but isn't that a requirement to being on these types of shows? What I have always loved about LVP is that shes an avid aninal lover, loves Ken (evem with all the jokes of twice a year for sex), and she loves both of her children...and what parent d oesnt have different relationships with their kids. I'd love to be friends with LVP..she seems fun..bit I wouldn't ever be close friends with her...but if I'm feeling down...i feel shed be able to cheer me up and vice versa. Kyle, I don't think she's evil..but kind of has a mean girl vibe to her...but I think she would be fun to hang with...just not ad a close friend. Erika vs lvp...ive been waiting for this...it has been hinted at for awhile now..both kind of know what the other is capable of.. but habe stayed out of one another's way so far

Season 2 and season 9 were the only times that character, soap, and OTT had a good balance. The krystle/Alexis brawl in season 2 worked because there was good motivation for the fight. All the other fights were done for shock without proper build up or motivation. I wish Fallon kept her edge and stayed a gray character....not evil nor goody goody. Season 1 to 2 and season 9 had the right shading to her character.

Luann as a single divorced girl...her and Ramona competing for men...carole and Luann having beef... Bethenny isn't needed...she can exit stage left.

I liked that Ava had fantasies on occasion even into the early 90s...since she was conceived to be more like No la Reardon then Erica Kane. Peluso played Ava more like a scarlet ohara with the fantasy/social climbing aspects of Nola. I liked Ava's sister Carly..and I do think the show wrote her out when she still had a lot of mileage left to utilize.