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I figured the jennifer falling through the glass worked cause of build up due to her troubled state of mind, desperation to hold onto her husband, and her jealousy of his closeness to another woman. Would the Jennifer killing Eunice story be in the same boat..or would that have been for shock value as well?

As much as people lament that the mid to late 80s veered away from the original concept...I do admit that I liked the near death experience arc, the wild west arc, and even the underground city arc. In a way, the show was about diversity and presenting ideas not always popular....a lot of people believe in near death experiences...and the time travel theor has always been around...and haven't we all wondered what it would be like to live undergeound. Shame they didn't feature anyone living in the city...a character isolated from modern day society...would have truly been a harken to the shows roots..imho

But didn't the Carrington reign stabilize the show..and led to them creating Texas due to their work on SAT? All I know is that they created the Santells...and Sunny. Plus, action storyline became the norm in the late 70s/early 80s...so they had to adapt. Based on what I've read...the mid 70s was the last golden age of the show...with a multi generational approach....with Jo/Eunice still getting stories...but younger characters also got focus like jennifer, scott,kathy, liza...etc

I thought the Walker family was a good idea...because the show needed a middle class family to balance out the Cap wells. The problem was that they were focused on too quickly at the expense of the capwells. That said, I actually liked Kim Zimmer better here then on GL. She was still a little over the top, but she was also more grounded...playing a cop...and the scenes where she felt guilt not recognizing the signs that her daughter was abused when she'd been a cop were acted well. The problem the show had was that it was too hinged on Cruz/Eden...and once Eden left...the show never recovered. If modern soaps could watch a past soap to show what not to do....Santa Barbara should be a template of how focusing on one couple without developing long term supporting characters can kill a show long term.

Based on the clips I watched...she seemed very likable. Not hot, but an attractive presence..full of energy. I often thought her vision of where she wold have taken Texas was answered in my 1st stint at Guiding Light..especially in terms of the Lewis Family...and how she wrote the Reardons.

I recall Chelsea handler had her on...and she kept going on and on about how much she loved Santa Barbara...and even finding Kelly cap well in the phone book and calling her....and Robin wright had this stunned and shell shocked look on her face. But the kicker was how Chelsea pointed out that she got princess bride cause rob reined watched SB...and Robin wright basically said that was sad he watched the show.

The only logical reason I can come up in regards to the recast is maybe the actor did something unprofessional that warranted his firing. Based on what I heard about Robin wright, I would have fired her for being a spoiled brat and being a bitch to her co workers...but I think her being forced to stay a year longer then she wanted was perfect punishment.

From what I've seen...they're almost different shows. I think had the show been given more time..it would have found its footing and identity outside AW...like Somerset did for a time.

The final co headwriter Jill loris Hurst sounded promising..and I wonder how she would have fared had she had an executive producer who dealt in reality.

Actually...like with edge of Night...Procter and gamble cancelled SFT..NBC had wanted to pick it up for another year or two.. I thought the Corringtons gave SFT their last stable and decent period in the late 70s?

They did briefly reference that in 2003 during Reva's stalking story...with evidence pointing to Holly doing it...and Holly proclaiming she was innocent...but everyone wondering if she flipped out again. I recall the scone with fake Michelle being nervous having holly alone with her baby. It didn't make sense that it was referenced all of a sudden..and before she was a suspect for Reva's stalking. I did like Ed believing her...and then all of a sudden...she was determined as innocent and vanished for awhile to babysitting duties. I thought the nursery rhyme stuff tied into her drinking...or was I wrong to assume that.

Having a castle in oakdale...so 80s. Nice to know even Marland followed the trends..bad as they were. Shannon seemed so unlike a typical Marland creation, only to learn that he didn't create her..and it made more sense to me. Most of his female characters he created were kinda boring...except for Julie...until she got saddled in the vortex of the dreaded Snyders. I always viewed Carly as a 2nd rate Julie.

I actually liked the Nursery rhyme story... and it was one of the few times all the female characters admitted that maybe they weren't the best mothers in the world (reva's reaction was interesting when Marah admitted letting the kids go with holly because she was always having to babysit everyone and just wanted some space). What I didn't like was the fact that Reva got involved...and was viewed as the hero. Sadly...oneven of the more interesting results of the story was Annie and Holly briefly becoming friends before the show opted to deep six that.

That could be why Marland had trouble writing for her...and mostly kept her in the background..or stagnant. I liked Pam long/Curlees take on the character...confident yet neurotic...sexual yet could be frigid...sarcastic yet serious. I do think curlee/Democrats (sp) focused more on the neurotic part of her then when Pam Long wrote her. Itshe telling that MG was so fascinating that Pam Long insisted on writing her full time instead of the original short term stint I hear the character was suppose to have.

Though oddly her hair better then...which is saying how bad her hair looks now on days lol When watching these early episodes....the show hit pay dirt with Amy/brick and Joe ( original joe)/kelly... but it seemed like once eden/cruz took off...no other character/couple was all that important. I think had the show built up the supporting cast..it would have weathered eden's departure better. I recall Pam long saying she had no idea when she started that Cruz was departing..that had she known..she would have written differently. In her defense..she was given a barebones show with only the Cap wells as a focal family.. and I think she saw the Walkers ad the 90s version of the Perkins family. Sadly...her efforts didn't work...but as I've said before she did come up with some ok stuff like the Lisa character...pairing Lionel/Gina together.. and she did give Santana a good send off (leaving to start over and meeting a handsome guy on the plane)

I liked the show in the early to mid 90s. It still felt like AMC to me. I stopped liking it in 1998 and the propping of certain characters even though the acting choices and actions of those certain characters made me question the propping. I still liked the Natalie in a well story...it led to Dimitri/Edmund and wildwind...as well as erica/Dimitri as well as edmund/maria. Back then stunts like that led to long term fall out...and weren't just used for ratings stunts or Emmy stunts (ahem Brad bell..bold and the beautiful)

I guess I'm in the minority...but I think it was time for both AT&T and GL to deoart..both shows were pretty much gutted though at least ATWT still had decent lighting and sets...unlike the b movie look of GL. If I could revive any P and God show..it would be Edge of Night.

She was beloved so I figured once people realized she was playing Eden and not Liza that changed. I didn't like when she came back as Liza...she had too many Eden traits...and I thought Jamie Lunar (while too young) restored Liza and even mimicked MW's mannerisms in some ways On the subject of the Doctors... I do wonder if the current Mike's departure affected the penny/toni/Mike story...or if that was generated by the strike writers

Alice hirson....she's the actress who played Ellen D's mom in Ellen right? I cant imagine her playing such a cold blooded person. Fascinating

And what is weird is that right when a new character Hank is intdoduced...Anna is on her way out...and he spends almost two years being a talk to before getting a story. Of his own.

In regards to Kyle and LVP's eyes darting back and forth..it was comical. That reminds me of the season 8 reunion for RHOA where sheree and kandi were like the two theatre patrons making fun of the muppets. And honorable mention goes to vicki and tamra doing their own back and forth eye dqrt movements during Alexis and Peggy's back and forth at the season 6 reunion.

From rewatching the first episodes of Eden's debut...there were hints left that make her split personality story and eventually disappearance later on make sense. She comes in the esrly episodes as overly confident and fearless...yet by 1985, we see hints that is a facade. Ironically the fight between original Gina and eden by the ladder illustrates that. Gina correctly states eden is a sheltered princess and its time she grow up and be on her own...with Eden stating she has done that..didnt like it and feels more safe at the capwell mansion. Another scene is between Cruz and eden where they first reveal their previous fling years earlier and how she just took off all of a sudden and wondered if she wouldnt do that again...which she did in 1991. I dont recall, but was it mentioned if she was around when Channing was killed? I know that event caused Kelly and joe to break up..but was Eden around for the engagement party and affected by it?

I always thought season 1 of Knots Landing reminded me of Family...but with four marriages/families instead of one family. I think David jacobs wrote some episodes..if Im not mistaken.

Seeing the dinner meltdown makes me misd more then ever the trainwreck that was Allidon dubois. A hot mess yet entertaining when drunk and being a bitch...with Camille giggling in the background. #memories

We have our new Claudia...good choice. http://www.soapoperadigest.com/content/gh-vet-joins-dynasty-reboot/