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Oh. OH. This really is getting serious now. I guess Barr will be stepping in to stomp this case out if he can.

That Harriet Tubman comment is the usual Kanye obscenity but also makes me wonder all the more if he is in concert with Trump. Can't you hear Trump using this as more justification to his zombie followers about why you should never stop supporting the Confederacy, and saying "even blacks" don't like Harriet? That Salas news is horrific. I don't know what the reasons were, but it just reminds me again of how much threats against the judiciary have ratcheted up over the years.

I agree about Philip. I know Thom wanted to leave but while he did bring a sweetness and earnestness to the role, they could have recast (if it had kept us from having to deal with Ryan, all the better). I sometimes struggle with seeing Jess in these first few years as it feels like she's still in Brenda's shoes, but this episode does show a vulnerability that I think Brenda had struggled with by the time of her exit. Jess was terrific.

Return to Collinwood has a few details about some ill-fated attempts at reviving Dark Shadows in serial form: Another opportunity arose in 1997 when 20th Century Fox's television production arm - called Twentieth Television at the time - and The Fremantle Corporation proposed producing with Curtis either a new daytime version or a weekly primetime version. A daily version in the original soap opera format was preferable since the Fox Network was considering possibly expanding their affiliate programming into the daytime market - a scenario that did not transpire. For the next four years, Fremantle continued to explore possibilities to resurrect Dark Shadows as a syndicated primetime weekly hour-long series but the deal was contingent on filming in Canada for budgetary reasons, a stipulation that Curtis could not accept as he felt the program would need to be produced under his watchful eye in Los Angeles, close to home. --- In 2001, Curtis teamed with Aaron Spelling's company, Spelling Television, in an attempt to bring Dark Shadows to the Fox Network as a primetime weekly serial. Writer Eric Bernt was hired to pen the story with new twists, including introducing the character of Angelique in the premiere episode. Curtis' creative input remained a vital element but in early 2002, after delivery of Bernt's script, Fox decided not to pick up the project. Also in 2001, Fremantle made one last attempt to get in the Dark Shadows business with a plan to produce a new daytime version in Spanish using the original daytime series' scripts. But the idea once more failed to materialize.

For many years only Jackie knew, which is why a confused Alan belittles Jackie for hurting so much over the custody loss and over the mind games he played with Philip to try to turn him against Elizabeth. By late 1980, Elizabeth learns the truth (I'm not sure if she also finds out Jackie is Philip's mother) and begins removing herself from Philip's life as she thinks it's the right thing to do. In 1980 or 1981, Jackie tells Justin - they talk about it when she gives birth to Samantha, and Diane overhears them. You can find the rape sequences, and the aftermath with Holly driving to the hospital, in clip form.

@vetsoapfan thank you for donating something so special to fans. I hope it can help more people see how great Jacquie Courtney was.

I think Fiona and Jean both wanted to leave - Jean because of lack of storyline. It never made any sense to me why they didn't do more with Nadine - I adored her. They really wasted her when she just began obsessing over Buzz. Jenna also lost most of her spark with Buzz. It's an example of how many characters were squandered in these years. I think the main reason Buzz stayed so long was that by this point Deas was happy enough for a steady job in order to allow Margaret Colin to be able to pursue artistic freedoms. As a result I'm not sure if he was very demanding about money or storyline. Jackie and Justin had had a brief, unhappy marriage, which was, I think, one of the reasons she had given Philip up for adoption (Justin had never known about Philip). It's still so disappointing to me that all the key moments of this story took place after Cindy Pickett left. I'd love to see her get an interview.

Tim Dunigan, who seems to be best known for a show around this time called Captain Power and the Soldiers of the Future, which also starred Jessica Steen (who would go on to do some very grueling temp work on Loving as Trisha Alden). He does seem a bit wooden, especially early on, although I wonder if part of that is down to the very heavy dramatic material he had to play for his episode (not sure if he was in any others). It's classic Bill Bell pamphlet conversation, but Christopher Templeton does a great job and it's a perfect contrast to all the melodrama going on elsewhere in the episode. Bell had phased out the blue-collar elements of Y&R by '83 or so, but this was a way to bring some of that everyday life back, in a more fashionable form. I'm glad I got to watch both of these episodes, but especially that first one, as it seemed to be pretty important. The scene with Nina realizing Philip was the father of her child was brilliantly done - Katherine not even having to say a word because Nina could tell just from what she wasn't saying and how she wasn't reacting that it was true. Such a great way for Jeanne to show her acting skills beyond the usual, and Tricia was also first-rate. And then you had the beautiful, emotional showcase for Jill at Jabot, connecting with her son. You also had the quieter Nikki material (Roberta and MTS always work so well together, I'm sorry we lost that relationship in recent decades) up against the insanity of Leanna and Victor. I knew that Bell was still doing his gonzo fantasy scenes up to the early '90s at least, but never knew of this completely bonkers sequence with Leanne in fetish gear, whipping a shirtless Victor! I'm half-surprised Braeden was willing to go along, but I guess he thought if you have a great body you can show off and you get to act out some kind of BDSM fantasy while being paid to do it, who would say no? (Armie Hammer sure wouldn't...) Then as if it wasn't nuts enough, you have Leanna taking off her big GLOW belt and beating the hell out of her mattress!! It's a credit to Barbara Crampton that she somehow made all of this work. The acid trip sequence reframing their office argument was genuinely disturbing - well done. Victor's amusement and interest in Leanna after she blew him off reminded me of how Bell balanced Victor's cruelty with his genuine fascination for women - when they challenged him, he would be charmed. Something later producers, especially MAB, replaced with sadism and bile. The second episode was quieter, but I thought she was even better there - her work in Leanna's manipulative conversation with Nikki was absolutely masterful. (I guess they had dropped her obsession with Steven by this point as she had no reaction when Nikki mentioned Ashley's name) I think my favorite part of the episode was getting to see one of the vaunted Abbott breakfasts. By the time I started watching those had been phased out somewhat. This was a lot of fun, especially their teasing John about marrying Jessica. I will say that I paused when John and Ashley said the table would be getting too crowded and John jokingly warned Steven - it made me wonder if Bell knew even at this time that Steven wasn't long for the world.

Thanks.

I have had my criticisms of Gina Tognoni but I think she was probably a better choice for Phyllis than someone who hadn't been on soaps in 20 years. I think Sherry would have been a great fit for daytime again in a certain type of role but I'm not sure how she'd be in a Blake type of role all this time later. I loved her work as Blake, and I did like her on ER, but with the brokenness of soaps today she would need a lot of care to avoid the same car crashes as so many names who have come in and gone right back out over the last few decades.

Not sure if this one is already available.

Such brave and strong men, fighting a battle it's too easy to cast a hazy glow on today. I was reading that only 22% of the public supported their fight. They risked their lives for a basic freedom many take for granted, and spent their last years watching this country slide back into what they never wanted it to be. I'm glad they are at peace and I hope current and future generations can learn from their fight.

I wonder if he could do an accent? He might have worked if he could have. I guess it paid off for him though as he got a fairly big part in the last years of Walker Texas Ranger.

Sorry if these were already around. They were put up on Archives today. https://archive.org/details/the-young-the-restless-may-17-1988-convert-video-online.com https://archive.org/details/the-young-the-restless-june-10-1988-most-convert-video-online.com

Rosemary would have been great - she's a match for Stephen too.

Chris Wallace must be on the way out. All of the discourse about the selfishness of RBG has started again, but I just hope she can make it to January (and that Biden can win). This year has felt endless and I'm terrified every day. Speaking of terrifying, a high ranking NYC police union guy seems to have ties to Q anon.

Isn't this the second time Brandi has caused these problems? (wasn't season 3 hacked to pieces because of her feud with Adrienne)

I will. I'm glad it went well. I'd enjoy hearing Kirk and Chris talk more about their time at the show. Thanks for telling me about it.

Yeah, still the eyebrows. Otherwise he looks terrific. That was the first I'd watched of these in months. Rick was very energetic and grounded, and Sonia was sweet and easy to watch as well. Alan offered nothing but I don't want to bash him too much as he is doing this for fans and there were no connection issues this time, but please just do basic research. Sonia was NOT on OLTL before GL. You can find that on Wikipedia! If you have a chance, try to watch Rick having a meltdown about how much he hated the Universal remote. SO funny. I was annoyed Alan didn't ask the questions about Gilly/AM that multiple people asked. At least he did ask a question about Julie and Lucy and their feud.

Rick Hearst said in the Lochner interview today that he tested for Linc on ATWT, and that he was offered AJ on GH after Sean Kanan was fired. (he turned it down because he wanted a break from soaps)

Thanks. With his mental struggles over the years I had a feeling. Other than the eyebrow issues Rick looks terrific. Sonia seems likeable enough. She didn't remember that Harley and Lucy briefly met in the anniversary episodes, but that's understandable. [!@#$%^&*] hell Alan did not know Rick and Beverlee McKinsey worked together. I'm just glad Rick corrected him...

I turned it on now - was Frank there? I don't see him.

The protest Porsha was arrested at made national news, as she and the others who were there were slapped with some serious charges, while white protesters who hung the governor of Kentucky in effigy right outside his home were not charged with anything. This is a very relevant story and I hope it RHOA can do it justice.

Thanks for the update @Forever8 . I am glad Yvonne is still doing well. And I just love ART and my old favorite Tom. I so rarely watch these but I keep meaning to.

What the hell is this???