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Thanks for finding this. I always forget Barbara Stanger was still playing Mary up to this point. Nice to see a bit of her, and Doug and Julie.

https://archive.org/details/the-bold-and-the-beautiful-september-1-1995-convert-video-online.com

She also said Brittany had no real characterization. Going from such a rich character as Raven to such a mess was probably very demoralizing.

They are probably referring to the Red Swan story, which continued, but was heavily sped up.

While the media is begging you to vote for Trump because of a "peace deal" that means nothing and Israel is already saying will not stop West Bank annexation, they continue to ignore Trump stealing the election. The more this happens the more it means it doesn't matter how many turn out to vote for Biden/Harris - the votes will be gone.

I don't think the episode is around in full but some clips are here. My opinion of this episode and this era is I wouldn't wipe my ass with it.

I've been following the MA-Senate primary off and on, because Joe Kennedy seemed to be running just to run without much to offer voters. Ed Markey, the incumbent, is, sadly, being propped up by ex-Bernie cultists, but this is still quite an entertaining moment (and Kennedy's lackluster response probably shows you why he is currently beginning to crater in polling).

Rebecca chose to leave, I think. She had been there 3 and a half years.

@will81 thank you for sharing all those pages.

@will81 those used to be on ebay. Not sure if they still are.

Lee Phillip (Bell) interview from 1982. She starts talking about Y&R at 11-12 minutes in.

Thanks. I guess Valerie Bertinelli has moved on from the show.

The crazy racist attacks started right on time...and the "she isn't African American" attacks, like Mark Levin saying she wouldn't understand the African American experience of slavery since her father was Jamaican. Just insane. I just hope people won't fall for it.

@DramatistDreamer that is hilarious, yet, somehow I would not be surprised if that tweet, rather than his years of allegedly misappropriating funds and of exploiting the pain and death of black people to grift for cash, is what ends him on the left. I saw this last night: Pretty much the dregs of the dregs - Bragman is a Trump supporter, Brie Brie is one of the worst campaign strategists ever, one who spent more time praising Joe Rogan and hating John Lewis than actually doing her job, Michael Tracey is so loathsome even many on the left have given up. Biden and his team never seemed to have any real interest in courting these dead-enders, and if he wins that is one of the reasons why. Speaking of dead-enders, some of the above spend much of their time now defending Congressional candidate Alex Morse, claiming it's homophobic and "sex policing" to object to a college lecturer and a small-town mayor deciding to basically trawl the campus for male students to hook up with. (he says none were his students but the power imbalance is still there) https://www.boston.com/news/politics/2020/08/10/amid-college-inquiry-congressional-challenger-morse-says-he-had-consensual-relationships-with-students These same people, like Brie Brie and Ryan Grim, were among the loudest voices pushing the Tara Reade allegations. Shocking, isn't it? There is the usual "but Pete Buttigieg!!!" frothing (from the same people who loved to launch homophobic attacks against Buttigieg and his husband), but this, from Glenn Greenwald (who probably has the most reason to be wary about this story given his husband), really takes the cake: This was a big controversy at the time, and is one of many reasons that some were wary about Macron. That the far left is now passing this off as the model relationship speaks volumes.

I saw that Michelle Philips was being interviewed by her daughter, Chynna. Unfortunately after a few minutes I realized the whole video was her trying to push her mother into becoming born again. I don't like that kind of behavior at all, and I sure don't want to see someone playing those types of games for Youtube views. I clicked out immediately.

The future of the GOP, courtesy of Georgia-14 - an insane hatemonger and Q cult member.

Ferraro and Palin were also terrible nominees. I'm not sure what will happen this time, especially given how many on the left who are itching to support Trump hate Harris, but I feel like most of this is going to be on Trump. Biden is probably the most risk averse nominee Democrats could have chosen. Another VP nominee may have helped, but with Russian interference and so much division on the left, anyone Biden chose would be polarizing and get a negative response.

@Khan good to see you post again. We'd hoped you were OK. I'm going to have to cut back my social media time because all those who are just rabid dogs against Kamala Harris will be in overdrive. I do think she is a smart pick and I think she would make a wonderful VP and President. I hope we get to see that happen. I was also glad to see this:

Yes. And this was his commenting on the situation upon her arrival so that would be 1996, the Black and Stern year. I never have understood why they even hired her if they didn't want to use her talents. I guess FMB and MADD loyalty. P&G and CBS were so incompetent and incoherent. The whole thing makes me mad all over again because ATWT should still be on the air today.

When announcing MADD taking over the P&G soaps, I think it was Michael Logan who pointed out, aghast, that ATWT no longer had a long-term story plan. I have wondered if they ever did again. It sure didn't feel like it.

Other than Holden, and that Caleb recast, I liked all the Snyders from 85-93, and generally I liked Jack (mostly because of Michael Park). And yes, Doug Marland was a genius, and I have defended his work as much or more than I've criticized it (at ATWT - I am not that fond of his GL work). I think - and I don't mean @P.J. when I say this - some people don't understand that people can love a show and still be very critical. I'm not going to couch my criticism of ATWT because that criticism is why I kept going back to the show all the way to the end. Irna Philips herself tore the show apart at times, and she loved it as her own child. RIP to Hogan Sheffer, but I will never accept his ATWT, I will never praise it, and I do not feel one teeny, tiny ounce of guilt for that. The world is burning - if people don't want to see that on this board, then I'm sure they have better things to do while we still can.

Someone else here can explain it better than I can but Trump just put out a bunch of worthless executive orders (the only one that likely will stick is cutting payroll taxes and capitol gains tax to benefit the rich and bankrupt Medicare and Social Security) in order to get media hype for making a big decision. Mark Meadows and the Senate GOP clearly worked together to give Trump this win and allow him to do something they want to do but don't want to be on the record for (ending entitlements). They are destroying this country and no one can do anything about it.

No amount of strong EPs will balance out someone who hates soaps. Sheffer bragged about how he wasn't a soap writer, and he was appalled at the basic tenets of storytelling which didn't involve "men with balls" and random characters humping. He said as much himself. He may have been a good writer in another genre, but not daytime. Marland would have left ATWT within a few years, as he had another soap planned. The main difference might have been that he could have left ATWT in a better place. ATWT was actually in good shape when P&G and John Valente began hacking it to pieces, but the year to two years before that had been terrible for the show - moribund, dispiriting, and almost daring viewers to stop watching from sheer apathy.

It was mostly just done to try to make us feel sorry for Craig, as Hunt Block awkwardly tried to force out tears and made weird trombone sounds before they had Carly give him pity sex. The whole story was gross to me, and crass. Sheffer hated soaps and it showed from start to finish. The writers who were forced into daytime due to lack of real options elsewhere and openly expressed contempt for the genre - while being cheerleaded by the likes of Michael Logan and other shills who also saw themselves as being above daytime - helped kill the genre off for good. Even now we have Mr. "Jack Abbott black rabbit," who was supposed to have left the genre for greener pastures, going back and forth. Just go write more for the WWE - that's become a bad parody of a soap anyway.