DRW50

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua0GpJliKQs Bo/Hope wedding promo.

Liz Taylor interview on Whoopi Goldberg's short-lived talk show. (second half is Robin Williams) @BetterForgotten (sorry for any other Liz fans I am forgetting)

I don't understand why they think their target audience wants to see MAGA people. To be honest I wonder how long it will be before some of these women start pushing Qanon stuff. Many of them seem mentally ill.

Thanks. Maybe someone can ask him in another interview. Yeah, Rick was very honest in the interview he did with Sonia Satra. With Maureen and Amelia there that should be turned up to 11.

Thanks. That does make sense about the same character, to a degree. He's sure right about Ben and the funeral. Did he say anything about his finale return?

I do wonder if it was P&G as around the same time, Duncan and Jessica were split up. Rachel was a horribly, horribly degraded character, many producers and writers to blame there. I guess at least JFP (and McTavish, I guess) let her return briefly a few years later in a positive supporting role. That's about the kindest I can say in regards to my views of that era.

I was listening to a radio show and they played a brief song by a group called Reverb Motherfuckers. It's a brief soundbite from Joan, followed by Robin Leach saying "Joan Collins...always." They sent me an MP3 of it. It doesn't seem to be on Youtube anywhere so I guess it would be taken down on there. If anyone wants me to send them the file I will.

Yes to the first, no to the second. JFP and Pam Long made Rachel a killer. I think Pam Long wrote Claire/Fletcher...was she there for the sex with Ed? I think Jeff Ryder was the one who made Claire go crazy and packed her off. I'm not sure. I don't watch these very often but this one sounds good. I wonder what Jay meant about Buzz - they were on the show together for about 5 years.

No problem. I was afraid it got lost in the shuffle. I don't think there are any soap people in the Superior Court episode that channel also uploaded (I may be wrong) but it was very good (better than The Judge episode), if you want to see it.

@slick jones did you see my post in the Love of Life thread? I'm not sure if The Judge counts or not...

Sorry if this one was already posted. I can't remember if this is the one that popped up earlier this year or not.

Written out not long before MSNBC has Peter Navarro on to spew bile. If Biden wins, he must work to crack down on the media conglomerates that have done so much damage to this country.

I wasn't searching for them until now - there wasn't much need to as this type of talk hung over cable news as well, especially CNN (which had everything from Chris Cuomo making sure to defend Republicans, to Rick Santorum and Van Jones on doing their usual shill routine, to that laughable focus group, to Chris Cilizza chiding everyone and whining about the "pageantry" of politics had been ruined). But we can agree to disagree. I don't see it as any particular media commentary against Trump - they have too much to lose.

That is exactly why they do it. And many times "undecided" voters are revealed to be Republicans - in some cases high-level Republican officials. They are just used to reinforce to us that "both sides" are bad and there is no point in voting. Which is exactly what the debate, and the media coverage of it, was geared to do. Biden should not have participated.

The CNN snap poll has Biden at 60%, but they did the same for Hillary. This is probably more accurate to the base, so I guess Biden could have had a worse night. These two tweets pretty much sum up where my head is at: Trump had two ways to win these debates - try to do the bare minimum of being "Presidential" and get fawning pundit praise (which I thought he might do), and rant and rave incoherently the whole time, dragging Biden and the press down with him in the same morass of "everything sucks, nothing matters" that helped Hillary lose in 2016. He also managed to solidify his base even more, while Biden opposing the Green New Deal meant that many of the paid fauxgressives like Ryan Knight could use the debate to further depress turnout. And of course some pundits are wasting no time in making sure Biden looks the worse of the two: The best to hope for is that most forget this debate and that the other two don't happen. The ugliness and Trump shaping the entire thing, along with the public reaction, around his toxicity happened in 2016 and could easily happen again. I wish Biden would just say "enough" and have no more debates. It doesn't matter if Trump shits his pants on stage - appearing with him will still give him the win. Nancy Pelosi was right. I know Biden had no choice but to debate, but she was right. There should have been none of what we got tonight. It played right into Trump's hands, even as our country falls further into the toilet bowl.

Psycho conspiracies all over about the debate - so even if Biden does well it will be spun as not genuine. I really wish he had skipped this. If he does win I hope someone working for him will crack down on Facebook.

Wendy Moniz.

Much as I can't stand the man, I skimmed through this as it's the first step in the Beltway push to tell us Trump won tonight's debate. This will be the main talking point soon, so may as well be prepared.

He probably misspoke, but it cracks me up nonetheless. They may as well have one of them come out at a desperate attempt at pandering. It will probably be Tiffany, but Don Jr is the most believable as a trisexual type, especially since he has entered full Requiem for a Dream mode.

@slick jones I'm not sure if this would count for your Soap Hoppers list or not, but this is an episode of The Judge that Elizabeth Stack appeared in (no mention on IMDB).

Hillary was right #9485 (and of course many other liberals beyond Hillary):

Those are lovely shots - impeccable all around. The wall of her magazine covers is my favorite.

A haunting, but effective, promo. One of those moments where, if you have a long history with SNL, you realize just how fucked up this year is.

I hope not, but to be honest until November I can't let myself think otherwise. I just feel like we're living out the same scripts and I am left waiting for the last minute rewrite.