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I agree. The closest for me would probably be GL's finale, due to all the returns and as it was clearly done with love even if the product was all over the place, but there aren't many. I can't see any of the remaining soaps having this type of sendoff. It feels very much like another end to an era.

Maggie Haberman already has her talking points in line (Nina Turner, who likely works for many of the same people, is also rolling these out).

It seems like much more of the press for this album has ended up being about fighting or her fans dragging people (Kelis, Diane Warren, Monica Lewinsky) over the music itself.

Thanks so much. I appreciate all your research and your quick response.

I was listening to a podcast about the actress Helen Wood, and there was a brief mention of her being on soaps. I didn't see any of these credits for her on IMDB - I assume whatever they were were small roles, but I was just wondering if there are any listings. I did search but didn't find them...sorry if I missed it.

The show itself kept getting the year wrong (as time passed they started calling it 1797, I believe, and of course there was material in 1796), so that isn't something you have to worry about with DS.

Please consider starting from the beginning. The pre-Barnabas material is some of my favorite of the whole run, especially once they get into the supernatural elements.

You will be shocked that NYT reporters are going out of their way to scorn the same thing the Beltway cried tears of gratitude over Trump doing.

He also went out of his way to kill Murder She Wrote. I would count that, and Dr. Quinn, more than Murphy Brown, which had been running on fumes creatively (although as you mentioned the last season, which was pretty much always meant to be the last season, was when they tanked). There's also this: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/designing-women-creator-les-moonves-not-all-harassment-is-sexual-1142448/

@Vee I thought of your posts about Stelter when I saw this (naturally he turned off replies). I see that Amy Walter, whose job often seems to be to shame people for ever feeling optimistic about Democratic chances, has been deployed to throw cold water over some recent polls and claim that every midterm cycle the party that loses will briefly seem to be coming back. I don't disagree with that, necessarily, but I just hate the scolding, smug nature of the people who work for Cook, and how much they struggle to hide their bias toward the GOP.

Thanks again for using my suggestions @slick jones

One of a kind. I adored her as the grandmother in Garfield.

Thanks @slick jones I'm always glad if I do anything to help with your vital lists here.

I'm very sad about both but I am crushed about Nichelle...my father loved OG Star Trek and we watched all the movies, and eventually, the TOS repeats as well. Nichelle was just immensely charismatic and yet onscreen also had the most soothing presence - you felt like she was a good friend, but there was something always slightly withdrawn with her too, keeping you guessing. I know the movie was a dog but she's so much fun and mesmerizing in Star Trek 5. along with James Doohan the best part of that film.

I saw that, yes. I have only bought soap tapes/DVDs twice and that was with people I fully trusted. I'm not taking that risk again. I do hope others enjoy them.

I would so love to see some of this story. Along with Jingles the Clown it's maybe the highest on my list of bits I wish I could truly dive into.

A gossip magazine writeup for Melinda Fee from October 1973 mentions that Tracy/Charlotte's death was leaked beforehand to the press - she was meant to die in October from a car crash. They didn't know if this was going to change GL's plans, but suggested it wasn't likely.

@slick jones My apologies if you already have all of this listed - I searched but it's so hard to go through all the results. Victoria Wyndham married in June 1969. When Felice Camargo filled in for her, it was during Victoria's honeymoon. Their parents, Ralph Camargo and Florence Skeels, were on the radio version of GL "some 30 years ago" (the magazine this is from came out in October 1973) Melinda Fee played on Love of Life from September 1969 to August 1970.

@AdelaideCate007 @Dion @Forever8 Moving the conversation from the Neighbours thread. I had forgotten about Pippa and Don. I don't think either are mentioned these days either. You may have already read this but a former storyliner for the show talked about how he planned to bring Fisher back, with dementia, dying in Alf's arms. The story, along with several others (like Brody Morgan being gay) was vetoed. https://www.backtothebay.net/news/2022/03/16/former-home-and-away-script-exec-reveals-plans-kill-off-favourite/

I have watched the show the last few years and mostly enjoyed it but I can definitely see where they have moved away from their history in a way Neighbours never really did so I can't imagine the ending packing as much of a nostalgic punch, beyond Sally returning. Morag was beloved but sadly the actress passed away some years back (and it was never even acknowledged onscreen, was it). Otherwise the more known characters from the show are still on it - Irene, Alf, Marilyn. I guess Colleen? Anyway, this is a good piece featuring some interviews with former writers and story plans that were never done. https://www.backtothebay.net/news/2022/07/28/goodbye-neighbours-a-tribute-to-ramsay-street/