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When they were trying to get Maria's baby back (when Dimitri wouldn't admit he wasn't the father) and/or trying to help rescue Gloria from Dimitri.

Another episode I don't remember seeing before (the next episode, Kirk and Ellie's wedding, used to be on Youtube). Whoever wrote this was either not a big fan of the Kirk/Ellie pairing or knew a lot of fans weren't, as it is littered with moments that remind viewers how important Iva was in making Kirk a better person, characters saying they thought she would be marrying Kirk, and characters like Meg pointing out how odd it is that she is the maid of honor. Kirk's ex-wife saying that her agreeing just shows what a special family the Snyders are amuses me. Some nice moments with Julie and Andy too, fortunately not much of Courtney clinging. I love the ensemble feel of the episode as well. There's a new scene in the closing credits, which you don't get very often during this period of the show. And as a contrast you have a lot of island passion with Frannie and Daryl. @slick jones You may already have her listed (I searched and didn't find her but I'm not great at the searches) - Maggie Task as Mabel.

I can understand it to a point, because Anne Heche had made Vicky into a more complex character, whereas Ellen's was more of a caricature. I also wonder how much was down to the character being one of the main romantic leads, which Ellen's Vicky never was. It's hard to picture Ellen with Paul Michael Valley. I still wish they'd tried, as Jensen, while she eventually made Vicky her own, overplayed her early on and seemed more at home with Marley.

That makes sense. I'm sorry for whatever reason that the story was abandoned.

Kind of shocked at Morgan in that interview. She can barely move her face. You can mostly hear the age in Donna and Linda's voices (or from dental work possibly) but they both look more real to me. I know it's not fair to go on about plastic surgery so much but in cases like this I was transfixed.

I did wonder if they had more plans for Jansen. I think Carroll passed away a few years later. I'm one of the few who didn't mind the ending with the gorilla or find it a betrayal of the show. I'm more annoyed by choices like bringing back Sam Groom but not as Russ Matthews.

I watched some of that again recently and had forgotten, as you both said, Anne was styled better as Marley and had a better grasp on the character than she did in the 88-89 period, which had an awful wig and too much baby rabies. Speaking of Anne, this was up before and has been reuploaded. It's a pilot she did in 2005.

Thanks!

Whenever I think of Thanksgiving, I think of ATWT, and the P&G soaps in general. I hope everyone had a happy or peaceful day, whether on your own or with a crowd.

Thanks for watching. Someone in the comments said he's Mark Slade.

Sorry if this shouldn't be in here. I was trying to figure out if anyone knows where the mother in this is from. I could swear I've seen her on a soap. @jam6242 @vetsoapfan

Happy Thanksgiving to all my fellow Loving fans. Here's a treat:

That's lovely. Thanks as always.

Or the John Howard fans... Seriously, I was a fan of AK/MS era and what became of Emily and Paul after that, especially Emily, made them feel like strangers to me. I will give KMH some credit for keeping a job through nearly twenty years of terrible writing.

The channel uploaded another episode I don't think has been on Youtube for a while. This doesn't feel as dead as a lot of episodes around this time period tend to feel. And there's a lot of Lyla, which is nice for me. I thought Steve and Carol were already married at this point. Frank Runyeon is so much more natural here than he was in later years as Steve. My favorite scene in this episode is between Carol and Tom - Justin Deas is so tender with her and you wouldn't know he was the second or third Tom to have been in the part since their characters split up. There's something very natural and special about Rita Walter compared to a lot of other people who came and went from the show by this point. I know this was 1981 and probably common at the time, but Carol telling her daughter to go up and down various elevator floors because she was bored/in the way is crazy. Annie being pregnant here confuses me because I thought she was pregnant later in 1981 when Carol and Steve wanted to adopt her baby. I guess she was still pregnant then and lost the baby? How far along was she? And if Carol and Steve hadn't been together long, why did they already want a baby? This must be one of Dana Delaney's first episodes. It's a bit surreal seeing Dana and Margaret Colin sharing dramatic scenes knowing they'd go on to so much '80s and '90s TV. I can't remember if I've ever seen Bob with a beard before. I wonder if Don was in his, "I'm bored, I don't care," era. He looks good!

Thanks @Vee. Waris and Carole Ann still cut a stylish figure.

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It's funny how Howarth spent a decade on GH and nearly a decade on ATWT, but nothing he did in nearly twenty years captured people as much as those first two years he spent on OLTL.

I'd imagine this will free up some budget. I hope it's used wisely.

You'd think so, but Barbara is in such a bubble in any episodes from that period. As you've said, we'll never know.

I don't remember them having any chemistry. He is the one man I remember Rebecca Budig having chemistry with.

@Vee That's great news. Thanks for sharing!

No. They don't put much dress rehearsal stuff anymore. I won't be surprised if it comes back this week. Yes, her Jennifer Coolidge impression is a lot of fun (and Coolidge was gracious enough to praise her).

On SNL last week, Chloe Fineman did a Weekend Update piece as Bethenny Frankel, talking about a Housewives Union. It was cut in dress rehearsal, but the show really wants to make her happen, so I could see it being back this week. Chloe doesn't do very cutting impressions, but I imagine it would give Bethenny something to talk about.