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They aired. I think almost all if not fully all of the first six and a half years aired on Soapnet.

I do think St. Elsewhere was a soap, even if the people who made it probably wouldn't have agreed. There does get to a point around season 5 where the show just gets so overly cynical, flip, and extremely bitter that it's almost unwatchable, but Fontana and Masius ended up leaving and the final season, with new producers, is more of a return to the show's early years in being more sedate (if a little dull). The first season of the show is my favorite as the whole show has a more contemplative atmosphere and the hospital is allowed to look much more rundown, but the shift to a more soap-oriented format is probably what stopped it from being canceled.

I don't think it's going to ruin her career, but this type of criticism does seem to rattle her (as shown by all her regret over Aloha).

I didn't think his last special was that great, but I still enjoy Mulaney. He also hosted the "these are all the old and boring people we don't care about anymore" Oscars ceremony a month or two ago and was very good. He is sarcastic but also clearly loves film, unlike the jiggly trampoline guy.

I heard so many complaints about Killers of the Flower Moon, especially with the script, and they just seemed to chip away at the wider view of the film. Lily is a good actress, but beyond the whole controversy over the category, most of the final debate over the movie or her award seemed to be: - if you don't support Lily Gladstone you're a racist - be nice to Grandpa Scorsese who is so cute on tiktok Neither of those do much to sway Oscar voters. The first one in particular causes a lot of spite. (Scorsese these days seems to be more of a brand for himself than for people actually enjoying his films) I feel bad for Emma Stone as I don't think she wanted to win because of the optics, similar to Cate Blanchett last year. And I do wonder if these fears are going to cause more and more people to move away from the Oscars, because you don't get any real career boost but you do get a lot of years-long, dedicated hate from losers who cosplay as activists rather than actually bringing about any real change in the world (most of them are probably hoping Trump wins for "the revolution" or because "he's funny"). These same people will likely spit on Lily Gladstone in a month as she will be wearing the wrong brand, work with the wrong actor, use the wrong word, or go to the wrong store. I didn't bother to watch this year, and after seeing a few clips of Jimmy Kimmel's usual condescending, anti-film monologue and the shambles of the Memoriam segment, I'm not sorry. They didn't even include Treat Williams, who was in a ton of films, or Suzanne Somers, who first became known through an iconic film clip. No clips, no nominations. I saw a tweet saying the Oscars had finally managed to get rid of all "the old." If that was the point, I hope they're proud. I did watch the I'm Just Ken clip. Ryan Gosling has always seemed ambivalent about the whole thing, but at heart he's a showman, and I'm glad he embraced that. A genuinely very fun performance. It was also so nice to see Scott Evans at the Oscars. Fish's revenge.

About 6 years ago I found an episode of this show on Youtube and posted the link here. I wasn't sure if it was still up or not. It doesn't seem to be. I stumbled upon a copy of mine tonight and decided to reupload. If anyone knows more info on the date or year of this episode, or much info at all, I'd appreciate it.

Pay special attention to Barbara's last comments.

Thanks @dc11786

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I think that's a wonderful idea. I had been thinking lately about adapting Meta's story, only in my version Chucky would live.

I really love that idea, especially because AW seems very divided between the '60s and '70s (family-oriented with eccentric outsiders like Liz or Iris) and the early '80s to the end of the show (outsider characters, like Vicky, Felicia, Jake, Cass, Carl, etc. becoming the core of Bay City - the road paved by Rachel, I suppose). Marianne and Cass just missed each other by a few months, didn't they? I sometimes wonder how a character like Lahoma would have reacted to someone like Iris. If it would have been along the lines of the relationship Iris had with Clarice.

I never really understood why Jamie needed to be a doctor. I am aware it's easier to write for a doctor than for an author, but they had Felicia on the show and managed to write for her - they could have even used a writerly connection between them to shore up his relationship with Lisa (just don't mention her trying to seduce him).

Very sorry to hear about Steve Lawrence. I'm glad his suffering is over. There was a certain cultural sneering toward Steve and Eydie (my first memory of them is the somewhat infamous Frank Sinatra Group SNL sketch which tore them apart as worthless hangers-on [Sinatra loathed Phil Hartman's take on him]), but I find them likeable and charming, much more than a number of patter duos over the years.

Much of the hype for Sheffer at the time was about lifting him above ATWT, all about the changes he wanted to make to ATWT and wasn't allowed to do. Sheffer, Guza, JFP, Ron Carlivati, all hyped for themselves, not for what they did for the genre. We were never meant to care about ATWT itself when he was there - it was just the template for his work. Marland certainly put his own issues into ATWT, but he also respected the traditions of the show. When you run a show for almost 8 years, you will inevitably change the show irrevocably, but he still tried to keep the core intact. To be fair, by the time Sheffer got there, most of the core was gone, but it's still extremely difficult to watch a show where someone who seemingly has such contempt for their show, or their genre, is treated as such a god. The darkness under Marland was in some ways harder to watch because you did care about the people involved. You felt the pain. '00s ATWT was just a corpse being kicked, as you were encouraged to watch and laugh.

I haven't watched these in years so thanks @Vee for the review. From what I've read, Katie Bot...er...Britt's response got the response those usually do.

I imagine many fans here already know about this, but I didn't until recently. A "visual soundtrack" that was a Japan-only laserdisc release in the early or mid '90s. A neat little CGI intro leads to a tour of the real city, all with that gorgeous soundtrack. There are some neat surprises, and some deeply sobering moments, like a tour of a train car...

I agree. I suppose Liz Hubbard and Helen Wagner also knew what it was like to be out of the show and back in (even if that never stopped Eileen - although she was generous when at the Paley Center goodbye to ATWT she thanked Goutman for keeping her on). It was priceless. I still wonder how they snuck that in. And she said it in the middle of godawful screeching from Molly, who was shoved down the throats of viewers at that time.

I know that Iris and her anger over Alice's relationship with Elliot/bond with Dennis was used to help reunite Alice and Steve. Did Iris and Alice, or Alice and Dennis, ever have any major interaction after that story ended? I wonder if the show ever thought of the story potential of pairing Dennis and Sally.

The last time I remember any statements from her along these lines was when she was interviewed around 1998 or 1999 (whenever the yacht sinking was), which was also around the time of the priceless scene where Penny exclaimed "who ARE these people?" to Ellen. I think even by that point she may have been more guarded.

There's been a great deal of criticism on the left against Adam Schiff (soon to be Senator B from California, or whatever the terminology is) for elevating Steve Garvey (R-Comatose) in the top two system, locking out Katie Porter and Barbara Lee. One of the biggest criticisms is that his decision was selfish because now many Democrats will stay home while Republicans run up the score. I have some doubts on this one, namely because I think with Trump on the ballot, many Republicans and Republican-leaning voters would have flocked to the polls anyway, but beyond anything else, I think it shows what a poor candidate Porter was. In spite of tons and tons of money, six years of glowing media profiles and cable news coverage, she couldn't even get second place. And it wasn't especially close for the second and third spot either. I initially believed the praise surrounding Porter, but after she endorsed that loathsome grifter Nina Turner, I began to see it as a sham. Her little stunt during the endless Speaker vote reading a "not giving a [!@#$%^&*]" book was another reminder. I was not surprised to see Turner, always eager to get people to stay home or vote third party, jumping in yesterday when Porter had a sore loser session. @Vee This is one of those polls I mentioned of stupid people who now remember Trump's economy as the good old days. (it may make me sound elitist to call them stupid, but I'll take it) https://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-trump-leads-biden-economy/

Welch gave Silver's talking point more weight because he's a senator. That means less people will dismiss it the way it should be dismissed.