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Santa Barbara Discussion Thread
Looking back at the photos from the previous page I just saw that Harley Jane Kozak was there too. Richard Eden. So many people. Now if only a producer could take the opportunity to use some of this talent while they still can.
- GH: Classic Thread
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- As The World Turns Discussion Thread
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Santa Barbara Discussion Thread
I was thinking yesterday of how many weren't at the AW reunion, and of course all have their reasons, but it did make me wonder. Glad SB got such a turnout.
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The Politics Thread
You're probably right, I am just curious as RFK Jr was desperate to get something from him so he could drop out. This has definitely lowered my opinion of her. I was going to say I won't watch any more of her work but I don't even know what she does now without Larry David.
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Santa Barbara Discussion Thread
I agree with @Paul Raven that Marcy would benefit from a shorter haircut but otherwise I think she looks nice. You can still recognize her and she seems very happy to be there. It's nice to see her enjoying herself and this is the moment the long-suffering Cruz and Eden fans deserve (yes I know they aren't their characters). Can we talk about how great Judith McConnell looks? Get her on a soap! Vincent also looks terrific. He's aged well. So nice to see Carrington Garland there.
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Emmerdale: Discussion Thread
Most of that came out in an article a month ago - someone edited it afterward but not quickly enough. Being tied to Aaron means he will probably only last a year and not make it out alive. We'll see if they avoid being as lazy as they were with Jamie Tate and Tom King.
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Guiding Light Discussion Thread
When she came back it seemed like a number of characters did support Annie over her, but that was a rarity. The age difference with Vigard and JWS did stand out, but she had more of an edge and sincerity. Cooke was just...there. The best I can say is she seemed stronger in the role as she was leaving. I think they may have just decided Newman was more appealing as a leading man, although so many writers came in and out during that period.
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The Politics Thread
@Vee I guess we already knew this after he got his younger brother hooked on drugs (he later died of an overdose) and ended up leading to his wife's suicide, but the man is just a sociopath. This is incredibly horrifying and premeditated behavior. Yet his ever-diminishing band of cultists won't say a peep because they are still busy writing about "the duopoly." I almost wonder if Trump asked him to say all this to distract people from his troubles.
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
I did prefer Dawson in the day-to-day stuff I've seen, although I think Schulz might have had more of a presence. I think you're right and Dani did live with Susan for a time. She was only on for a few years (95-97 - if she even made it to 1997) and then not mentioned again for a long time until her disgusting, sleazy brief return late in the show's run that felt like Goutman trying to demoralize longtime fans.
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
She's also excellent in the scenes with Kim after Dan died. I am not surprised they recast her as this was when P&G was trying to cast more generically attractive actors for young parts but to me she and Lindsay are the two best Betsys and they both have that subdued quality which fits the part given all of Betsy's losses. I remember a story Meg Ryan told (when she was still on ATWT) in an interview about early on in her tenure she was at an event and she was pointed out to the crowd, and she barely got any response, because fans still missed Davidson (which likely doomed the Betsy in between them). Of course Ryan won people over quickly enough. Ironically the time that Pat Bruder was dumped is when Ellen could have had more relevance than she'd had for a number of years (at one point she was just there to hold Courtney's hand), given that Susan and Emily were feuding, and Emily was making threats about going for custody of Alison. This was also when Dani, Ellen's great-granddaughter, had arrived in town. I think Dani initially lived with her and had scenes with her. They should have done what they did with Emma - she was put on recurring but still made appearances. Instead, she was just dumped, although Lorraine Broderick, to her credit, brought Ellen back a few times in 1998. That was it, sadly. I don't even remember her being mentioned after that period. It would have been interesting to me if one of the quads came back in the '00s and Ellen took them in and they confided in her that they were a lesbian, or struggling with their gender identity, and there was conflict as Ellen accepts them, but Annie doesn't. (I know they did this with Lily, Luke and Lucinda, but all stories are repeat stories, and I didn't care about Lily or Luke that much anyway) Speaking of Stewart banishments, I noticed that IMDB and Soapcentral did not have Dee or Annie returning for David's funeral (although Soapcentral mentioned it in Dee's bio). I had to actually go back and check to make sure they were there. Another reminder of how unreliable IMDB is, I suppose. I wasn't a huge fan of either '80s Dee but I got the sense Jacqueline Schultz was the popular Dee (and I think I would have liked her more too if not for the incredibly lethargic and depressing stories and atmosphere surrounding her...and constantly being preyed on by creepy older men). I wonder if she didn't return in 1991 because of her split from Larry Bryggman. Vicky Dawson is a perfectly fine performer from what I remember but her more upbeat demeanor is an odd fit for this occasion. (I remember reading that Melanie Smith only JUST managed to return - so glad she did as a recast Betsy and a recast Emily would have been tough to take)
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Guiding Light Discussion Thread
By the time of the 1983 episodes when he and Morgan break up, he already seems to be written sympathetically, especially considering only a year before he was heavily pursuing her when she was vulnerable and just married. I don't know if Josh was ever a very likeable character (I remember being disgusted when his response to Reva trying to win him back post return from the dead was shaming her for being sexually abused as a young girl), but they seemed to drop the complete baddie routine after Marland's departure. I like him more in his last few years (although I haven't watched closely) but I find him difficult to stomach under Marland. He seems so toxic and the way he treats Nola (annoying as she may have been) bothers me - constant berating. When watching the Quola clips a while back I noticed that he becomes nicer toward her almost as soon as Marland goes. I figure this must be why he had a guest spot on Cybill. At least she remembered him. Derek/Vanessa would have been a good pairing, if the show had gone there. Beyond being a plot mover for the "good" characters I am not sure exactly what plans Marland had for Vanessa. I have very mixed feelings about Ed. Peter Simon was my first Ed. I didn't see Mart Hulswit for many years. I truly did warm to him as soon as I saw him. Sometimes I change my opinion on a recast after seeing an earlier actor (I can't ever get much out of Peter Bergman as Jack after seeing Terry Lester), but I still connect with Simon when I see him in the part, even as the character can behave in an insufferable way. Simon is just such a strong, incisive actor. I think if I'd seen Hulswit first I would have a more difficult time with the change, as GL of all shows is the one I had the most harshly negative reactions toward recasts for (I never accepted the replacement Billy, and it took me years to get over the exits of Rachel Miner, Sherry Stringfield and Beverlee McKinsey - in Beverlee's case I never fully did). Gentry seemed OK when he came back but there wasn't much spark and there was not much of a family for him - you had the somewhat forced Michelle recast (Rebecca Budig), and Rick. I don't know what plans they had for Ed, but they gave up very quickly.
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Another World Discussion Thread
I was mostly glad many of them seem to have tried to age naturally, so I can still recognize them. It's comforting to know that Julie Osburn still has the same smile and is what I could see Kathleen being at this stage of her life. I thought Russell Todd looked good as well for someone his age who was likely outdoors a lot. Alice Barrett also looked very good.
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Another World Discussion Thread
I know some other versions of these photos were already posted but I'm not sure if the AWHP's 60th anniversary photos were. ANOTHER WORLD: 60TH ANNIVERSARY (anotherworldhomepage.com) Nice to see the turnout from a number of actors who were on the show in the late '60s and early '70s. I know Judith Barcroft was interviewed by WLS years ago and Barbara Rodell has a book coming out, but I hope some of the other vets of that era like Jordan Charney and Leonie Norton can be interviewed while there's a chance.
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Guiding Light Discussion Thread
I think he was one of many cleared out in 1982 after Marland left. He was very insecure of her obvious feelings for Tony. Per Soapcentral they broke up after she spent the night at Tony's (platonically). I wish they'd kept him around. He had a quiet wit and was attractive. I liked his quasi-friendship with Nola too.
- As The World Turns Discussion Thread
- As The World Turns Discussion Thread
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- Ryan's Hope Discussion Thread
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
Thanks @NothinButAttitude This period often has characters I barely know or don't know and seemingly had no impact on the canvas. Most of these doctors (aside from Jeff and ever sorrowful Annie), for instance. Gary Hudson was so different from Con Roche as Rick Ryan. They probably should have kept him on. I wonder if he did his own stunt at the end. The psychiatrist looks familiar. He reminds me of the annoying guy on the first season of Newhart, although I assume that's not him. I had to laugh at him showing off a ton of his chest hair...just because. Ah, the early '80s. The other doctors all blur to me. The woman at 5 minutes is so familiar to me too from elsewhere. Sofia is another of those interchangeable heroines of this period (I think she was soon replaced by Miranda's daughter Bilan), although she has more personality here than in the other bits I've seen of her. And Eric and Hayley, soon to leave. It's a credit to Karen that she managed to survive this churn. The material with David is interesting. Nice to see Henderson Forsythe getting to act. I also greatly enjoyed John downplaying and turning around his role in David's breakdown, as Lyla looks on in judgment. Anne Sward was a pro at those types of looks. Ellen always reminds me of a drum majorette in that outfit.
- All My Children Tribute Thread
- All My Children Tribute Thread
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All My Children Tribute Thread
@Forever8 @SFK @Paul Raven @Vee @slick jones @FrenchFan @vetsoapfan @Franko @Soapsuds @Khan @TheyStartedOnSoaps @j swift @soapfan770 Funny to hear Erica saying Kent is "a real Southern gentleman." She wouldn't be saying that much longer. I can see why they recast as he does not read as a cosmetics king at all, although he's not awful. Considering Lee Godart was allegedly one of the few co-stars Lucci didn't get along with (IIRC) I wonder how she felt about the change. Poor Donna is such a puppy dog for Chuck. This must be November 2 or 3.