GH: December 2024 Discussion Thread

[Contessa Donatella]

That was the very height of the ridiculous if you ask me!!! I wondered what the writers were smoking. It seemed to me that they somehow thought Maxie was an idiot. Can we imagine what she must have been thinking? No, we cannot imagine it! It was downright stupid. And, not at all logical or even realistic. But this is GH & they did it.

[jasonminer1974]

So Trina fans on x want her to have a lead story but only with a actor who left the show?

[Contessa Donatella]

Yes, that's how delusional some of them are. Not all Sprina fans are like that. But, some of them definitely are. It defies all logic. And, it makes some of us doubt that they are really fans of Trina. It's just exactly like Kelly's fans who would say that she was in a toxic environment & that they wanted the show to keep her on. How do you reconcile those two ideas? They're basically saying that it was terrible & that they wanted her to keep doing it. These things they think are confounding, perplexing, also they don't make a damn bit of sense. They are so blind about Spencer that they cannot or will not see any future for Trina that doesn't have Spencer in it.

[DRW50]

That's always how a number of fans operate. The show just doesn't care about Trina, period.

I think sitting through some of this is when I moved away from GH for a very long time. It was extremely uncomfortable. I don't know if they were trying to emulate the old Our Gang shorts, but it came across more like Baby Burlesks. 

[Contessa Donatella]

That was my problem with Sprina. Once I realized that the show valued Spencer way out of all proportion & devalued Trina, that was it for me. I guess I am a true blue Trina fan. 

[Liberty City]

Unfortunately, that was going to come no matter whom she was paired with. If it isn't Spencer, they will not want it. 

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[Taoboi]

Indeed.

[detroitpiston]

Jesus Christ. Weird crap like this, bug eyed Connie, Ugly Betty and Dr Britch fighting over Patrick, Heather Webber, the OLTL actors taking over, and the immediately God awful production values and script quality that began with JFP’s exit are why I tuned out of the show for damn near a decade.

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I like him but I do feel the guy who played his teammate Quinn in his intro scenes had more screen presence. According to Tabyana Ali he was in the final running to play Kai and I think casting made an error there.

This actor they chose isn’t bad though and I’ve been enjoying Trina and Kai’s chemistry since they chilled out on her constantly giving him a hard time

They also say the show needs more black stories then push trends like #saynotoblacklove while saying Kai doesn’t look like a high enough caliber man for Trina

[Contessa Donatella]

They'd say anything at all because he's not Spencer. 

[Liberty City]

I agree with this; Jequan Jackson is more suited for the role of Kai, and I feel like he visually works better with Tabyana Ali's Trina. Shame Frank Valentini made the decision he made (I can only assume it was Valentini who made the final decision).

[Taoboi]

So you noticed that, too? I was kinda hoping that once Kai and Trina are off and running, that friend would come back in as a spoiler of some kind. Kinda like how Forrest was always that way with Buffy/Riley on BTVS. 

 

Yeah...now that the writers are forcing it, Trina and Kai's chemistry is growing. And they are enjoyable. 

You probably ain't wrong though.  

[ranger1rg]

He's not bad, and that's why I'm giving the guy a chance.

I feel the same way about Kai as I feel about Gio. The WRITING has let them down, not the acting. Gio has been given nothing but one chem test after another, while Kai's scenes are rejects from The already-awful All-American.

[Vee]

Gio has more charisma than Kai. That's what set him apart. Astrup(?) is nice enough but does not seriously engage me.

The Kai storyline is a C-level plot designed to keep the Black characters segregated again and is just a retread of various teen shows. Trina was already above that kind of material. There's overzealous, overly vocal fans in every fanbase (witness the sub-contingent of Liz fans who worshipped Franco because of airtime, or the ones who are desperate to drive Lucky off the show so they can finally get their umpteenth delusional shot at Jason) but they do not generally drive the larger audience. That's why you see enough of the audience responding well to LNL2 again despite those crazies. If Trina was given a serious story and a serious love interest you'd still have fanatics but enough fans would get behind it. The Kai thing feels unserious.

In contrast, if they'd introduced the rumored son of Justus and Faith Rosco in the summer though, I'd have been all for that for her. That feels like more than a throwaway character in a throwaway story.

Edited December 29, 2024 by Vee

[Contessa Donatella]

I was all in at the idea of a descendant of Mary Mae. A son of Justus would have been perfect if you ask me.

[Vee]

The story I remember (however true) is the kiddie quad is one of several stories or issues that got Ron in hot water and ultimately helped lead to his firing. The word came down not long before that to end it and they did. I didn't mind having kids in story or giving them some kind of little stories, but the issue there was the kids were too precocious, most of them could not act, and the material and tone got very weird very fast and often had whole long, excruciating day-long segments of scenes with just them, non-acting while acting like miniature adults. It's what I imagine people feel like with the soap within a soap on DAYS.

I don't think there was any foul intent on Ron or Frank's part, but they just were too charmed by what they were doing to realize how off-putting it got. When you had scenes of the barely-acting little kids turning to each other like "Emma, is this twoo?!" quizzing her about her 'love' for Cameron - it was both cringeworthy and a bit much.

Edited December 29, 2024 by Vee