DAYS: September 2024 Discussion Thread

[AbcNbc247]

That actually crossed my mind after that episode when they were talking at the mansion

[carolineg]

True.  That would be so soapy though.  Her and Tate are dullsville.  I guess they could revisit her and Johnny.

Especially when they planted the (fake) seeds that she had a crush on him way back when and then the way she is physically with him currently.  Holly hugging him and saying he's the only one she can trust.

[AbcNbc247]

It would be good soap too. Tate and Holly are the young couple. They should be messy, and you can’t get messier than that

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[j swift]

I disagree that he has to older, I just think he needs to be more savvy. 

For example, many people commented on how Tate treated Brady when he was drugged last week.  Tate is the son of two addicts, yet he seems so unbothered and uninformed on the topic.  I refuse to believe that Kim wouldn't have talked to him about addiction, sobriety, and the familial patterns.  And I get that he's a selfish teen, (and he needed to leave the townhouse for storyline reasons), but he just seems dense.  Even having conflict between Holly and Tate due to his refusal to drink or smoke pot would've seemed more organic.

As for Holly, her desire to get justice for "Aunt Sarah" feels too sudden and totally unmotivated by history.  I don't understand how she doesn't see through EJ's obvious manipulation.  It would be fine if she was using EJ to get back at Eric.  But, the idea that she doesn't have anyone to discuss her misgivings with trusting EJ feels like a mistake.  Once again, I wish that they had developed the Holly and Chanel relationship, after the coma, and made Chanel into more of an aspirational force for Holly.  Someone who she trusts because she's cool, she's never betrayed her, and she's insightful.

Edited September 29, 2024 by j swift

[carolineg]

It would make more sense.  I don't want them to fall into the Shawn/Belle mold where they are destined to be together forever and ever.  That's boring.  Obviously, Nicole being off canvas is a fail, but other people around town being scandalized by it could make up for it.  EJ needs to be his sleazy self.  The show is playing the character too much on the fence about him being decent vs. evil.

[Liberty City]

I don't see them doing that, unfortunately. From what I've seen, they seem sold on Johnny & Chanel.

[carolineg]

I don't think Chanel is keen on Holly because of her crush on Johnny.

Holly is kinda dumb, IMO.  She doesn't have any street smarts and trust too many people.

And, yes, everyone calling Holly's "Aunt Sarah" is obnoxious.  Like most of us watch everyday.  We don't need the familial reminders.

[j swift]

What's the age difference in actors between Johnny and Tate? 

Because I was just thinking about how the characters must have lived in Los Angeles at the same time for part of the past decade, while Theresa and Sami both lived there.  And given that Kim is Sami's Aunt, you'd think they would hang out at holidays when the boys were home from school.  So, it's odd that they never have scenes together.  In fact, I don't recall them interacting hardly at all since Tate arrived.

But, I wonder if they keep them apart, in part, because they look the same age.

Edited September 29, 2024 by j swift

[AbcNbc247]

For Tate, I think it was the combination of the acting and the writing. Having Tate still be so carefree when Theresa was carted off to prison was a mistake. 
And this week when he confronted Holly and mentioned how his mother’s in prison and now Holly wants his father to go there too, that was on Leo Howard 

For Holly, I understand her actions. She’s projecting. She’s angry that Eric can’t be punished for his crime, so she’s transferring that anger onto somebody who can be punished for their crime

They don’t know what to make him. They have the same problem with Kristen, Gabi and Stefan.

Edited September 29, 2024 by AbcNbc247

[j swift]

Agreed

I was thinking about how when Jennifer Horton was a teen, one of her early conflicts was worrying about the genetic aspects of Laura's mental illness, and if it would be passed on to her or her children. 

It seems like worrying about his relationship with drugs and alcohol should be the central conflict for Tate.  Rather than how he's going to live in a cabin all summer so he doesn't have to go to camp (another plot that we'll forget in two months).

Edited September 29, 2024 by j swift

[AbcNbc247]

He was written like that during the strike, but that’s pretty much been forgotten about

[Liberty City]

Carson Boatman (Johnny) is 30; Leo Howard (Tate) is 27. MESS!

[j swift]

For me, it is not as noticeable when Tate is in a scene with Brady, because Leo Howard is smaller in stature than Eric Martsolf (53).  And look like they could be plausibly related.  But, I could imagine a conversation amongst production where they've tried to separate Johnny and Tate because they look like contemporaries. 

Edited September 29, 2024 by j swift

[AbcNbc247]

And Eric Martsolf actually is old enough to be his father. 

[Liberty City]

It makes me wish they had taken a bit more time to recast Tate, honestly.