14 minutes ago, Liberty City said:

It's kind of like Carly & Sonny naming their daughter Donna in today's world. Names definitely change throughout time. I'd wager Theresa is more current than Jeannie in today's world, though.

Yeah, I get why they named their kid Donna in tribute.   I just don't no how many people are currently naming their kids Donna.  If the little girl wasn't so adorable I'd move to kill her off.

I would agree Theresa is much more common at least.  I have met a few Jeannie's in my life, but they were much older than me lol.

13 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Oh I see. I get it now. I had conflated the two boinks into one event. Those horny devils did the deed twice. Naturally Marlena would not know which was the crescendo. 

I think technically Belle was supposed to be conceived on the plane since it was the same night as Roman/Marlena's anniversary and Marlena was with both men.  I just think through the years the show has changed it to the conference room table because that was the more scandalous and memorable of the two hookups.

1 minute ago, carolineg said:

Yeah, I get why they named their kid Donna in tribute.   I just don't no how many people are currently naming their kids Donna.  If the little girl wasn't so adorable I'd move to kill her off.

There are people who disliking Sonny as much as they do, who indeed do want Donna done away with, and the dimples for them just make it worse.Me, generally I am not into killing of children, although we do know I have called for Violet and sometimes Charlotte to meet that end!

1 minute ago, carolineg said:

I think technically Belle was supposed to be conceived on the plane since it was the same night as Roman/Marlena's anniversary and Marlena was with both men.  I just think through the years the show has changed it to the conference room table because that was the more scandalous and memorable of the two hookups.

Yeah, that whole time when we weren't sure who Belle's papa was, it was important that she had been with both men. What a slut! Do we even know if she grabbed a shower in between?

7 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

There are people who disliking Sonny as much as they do, who indeed do want Donna done away with, and the dimples for them just make it worse.Me, generally I am not into killing of children, although we do know I have called for Violet and sometimes Charlotte to meet that end!

Donna doesn't need to exist in the first place.  We can keep her and sacrifice Violet though.

 

10 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Yeah, that whole time when we weren't sure who Belle's papa was, it was important that she had been with both men. What a slut! Do we even know if she grabbed a shower in between?

IIRC, they didn't show the love scene between Roman/Marlena.  Roman just said that they were together later on.   So hopefully she did shower in between, but she definitely went through the entire anniversary party without showering or changing her clothes lol.

I very much enjoy the Body & Soul storyline. Leo still cracks me up and I love his scenes with Hattie. Judi Evans is always gold. Good stuff today. 

I just hope the actors are at least enjoying themselves with this whole Body & Soul stuff.  I find it painful.  A little humor can go a long way.  An entire episode about it with some Ava/Stefan/Gabi added in?  Way too much.

7 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I just hope the actors are at least enjoying themselves with this whole Body & Soul stuff.  I find it painful.  A little humor can go a long way.  An entire episode about it with some Ava/Stefan/Gabi added in?  Way too much.

Quite honestly, at the very beginning with it, I found it clever. But, after say 3 weeks, that was enough. Now, trying to revisit it again is way too much of it. I'm not even sure if I'm going to watch it. I now find it cringe-worthy. UGH. 

7 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Quite honestly, at the very beginning with it, I found it clever. But, after say 3 weeks, that was enough. Now, trying to revisit it again is way too much of it. I'm not even sure if I'm going to watch it. I now find it cringe-worthy. UGH. 

I don't think the idea of a soap within a soap is bad.  I like Kate/Abe working together, I like Johnny being a part of it, I even don't mind Leo writing it.   It's the fact that Ron & co think it's the most hilarious idea anyone's ever had and they are so clever.   It makes me feel like they are making fun of their own audience and soaps are so silly and dumb.

20 minutes ago, carolineg said:

 It's the fact that Ron & co think it's the most hilarious idea anyone's ever had and they are so clever.   It makes me feel like they are making fun of their own audience and soaps are so silly and dumb.

Exactly.

The way all the humor gets written, it doesn’t come off as having respect for the genre or the actors or the fanbase. Or paying tribute to them. It comes off as having contempt for it all.

Seriously, Ron and Jamey are like the Friedberg and Seltzer of soaps.

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29 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I just hope the actors are at least enjoying themselves with this whole Body & Soul stuff. 

It looked like Judi Evans was having fun, and I'm happy for her after many months of barely being there. But this episode felt to me like a sequel to Soapdish conceived by a high school video production class.

Today's episode was beyond stupid.  I cannot believe this is what makes it to air on daytime in 2024.  

22 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I don't think the idea of a soap within a soap is bad.  I like Kate/Abe working together, I like Johnny being a part of it, I even don't mind Leo writing it.   It's the fact that Ron & co think it's the most hilarious idea anyone's ever had and they are so clever.   It makes me feel like they are making fun of their own audience and soaps are so silly and dumb.

You have hit the nail on the head!!! This is exactly the problem. Respect? Where is it? 

27 minutes ago, AbcNbc247 said:

Exactly.

The way all the humor gets written, it doesn’t come off as having respect for the genre or the actors or the fanbase. Or paying tribute to them. It comes off as having contempt for it all.

Seriously, Ron and Jamey are like the Friedberg and Seltzer of soaps.

I swear they hate their own show and their own dwindling fans.

I hate to feel stupid for watching the show everyday, caring this much, and even discussing it with others because this Body & Soul stuff is written as not laughing with us as an audience, but at us. 

Like I said, I hope the actors enjoy playing it at least.

12 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I swear they hate their own show and their own dwindling fans.

I hate to feel stupid for watching the show everyday, caring this much, and even discussing it with others because this Body & Soul stuff is written as not laughing with us as an audience, but at us. 

Like I said, I hope the actors enjoy playing it at least.

The sum total enjoyment I have gotten out of this iteration so far at least is Hattie (who I do not like) calling Bonnie (who I do not like) her ex-cellmate, "Bon" &  then delivering the line, "For the love of pickled herring, .." That is pretty damn thin & is not going to hold me for very long. 

21 minutes ago, carolineg said:

because this Body & Soul stuff is written as not laughing with us as an audience, but at us. 

I think you've hit the nail on the head, because this is not a parody of soaps, it is a parody based on how gullible and frenzied soap fans can be.  If RonC was this tortured by his audience, I hope he's found some peace now that he is out of a job. 

On a positive note, Deidre Hall looks great with a bolder lip color.

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16 minutes ago, j swift said:

I think you've hit the nail on the head, because this is not a parody of soaps, it is a parody based on how gullible and frenzied soap fans can be.  If RonC was this tortured by his audience, I hope he's found some peace now that he is out of a job. 

On a positive note, Deidre Hall looks great with a bolder lip color.

I will say I enjoyed the Johnny/Ava scenes.  I completely forgot they even knew one another then I remember their flirtation awhile back.

I often think Deidre Hall almost looks better as Hattie than as Marlena.  I know her outfits are supposed to be "goofy" and "silly", but they are often more figure flattering and her make up and hair look better.

I think there is a serious issue on how the show puts together episodes.  I really don't know all the nuances of producing and editing a show, but we know they have months and months of episodes done.   

Having mustache twirling serial killer Connie and all this Body & Soul stuff feels like too much camp for one episode.    I think perhaps a more serious story might help balance out the Body & Soul stories. 

I mean, does EJ even know Nicole left the country and Holly moved out?  Lol.