8 hours ago, Contessa Donatella said:

https://twitter.com/messages/media/1824226208504222039

I can't see the link. I think this is a link to a DM, which only recipients could see?

Kristina is a bisexual. She dated Keifer. Then she was in love with Ethan. She then married Trey. She then had her relationship with Parker. After Parker she had no one for years. She then dated Blaze.

Again, I understand the frustration of these fans.  It's really hard for me to take most of them seriously even when they have valid points. 

When a person is at the place where they are attacking an actress and using nicknames like "jac" and "Jacqui" like they know JGL personally they are in too deep in the parasocial relationship. 

Nothing Kate Mansi was going to say would change that and just be used against her.  If she had to say something it should have been a blanket pr statement saying she enjoyed Kraze, working with JGL, will miss her and wishes her best in the future.

Also- it is part of their job to speak highly of the show. As much access that we have to these performers and showrunners, it is not an actual relationship.

I would choose to engage less than many of them do. But if I was being accused of getting my co-star fired, and that I hated playing a LGBTQ character or story, I would probably speak up and challenge that too. But it doesn’t matter because people online entrenched in an opinion about someone are rarely going to change, they will just find another topic that they hate about them. And soap fans tweet the most heinous stuff directly to these people.

Soap actors are stars but not so big that they can easily avoid the total nasty behavior some people have towards them or the show on social media.

19 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Again, I understand the frustration of these fans.  It's really hard for me to take most of them seriously even when they have valid points. 

When a person is at the place where they are attacking an actress and using nicknames like "jac" and "Jacqui" like they know JGL personally they are in too deep in the parasocial relationship. 

Nothing Kate Mansi was going to say would change that and just be used against her.  If she had to say something it should have been a blanket pr statement saying she enjoyed Kraze, working with JGL, will miss her and wishes her best in the future.

 

2 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

Also- it is part of their job to speak highly of the show. As much access that we have to these performers and showrunners, it is not an actual relationship.

I would choose to engage less than many of them do. But if I was being accused of getting my co-star fired, and that I hated playing a LGBTQ character or story, I would probably speak up and challenge that too. But it doesn’t matter because people online entrenched in an opinion about someone are rarely going to change, they will just find another topic that they hate about them. And soap fans tweet the most heinous stuff directly to these people.

Soap actors are stars but not so big that they can easily avoid the total nasty behavior some people have towards them or the show on social media.

100% to all of this!!!!

9 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

Also- it is part of their job to speak highly of the show. As much access that we have to these performers and showrunners, it is not an actual relationship.

Exactly.  My question is what's the expectation of her from these fans?  For Mansi to bash the show, the story, her character?  To walk into GH tomorrow and demand they re-hire JGL?  Quit?

There is really nothing KM can personally do at this point lol.

6 hours ago, janea4old said:

I can't see the link. I think this is a link to a DM, which only recipients could see?

Oh, crap. I bet you're right. Let me see. What it is, is the part of the Hilton interview where he said she had lived openly gay for some time & then she agrees. I'll try to find it another way. 

One thing I will say as far as people referring to Jac, Jackie, etc. to me that is harmless & it goes on all the time, all over the place & personally I think some people make much too much of it. JGL and her twitter name are probably used 10 times more often. If someone did a tally I bet @TinyWonderLopez would win hands down.

41 minutes ago, carolineg said:

When a person is at the place where they are attacking an actress and using nicknames like "jac" and "Jacqui" like they know JGL personally they are in too deep in the parasocial relationship. 

Here we have to agree to disagree. 

1 hour ago, carolineg said:

Again, I understand the frustration of these fans.  It's really hard for me to take most of them seriously even when they have valid points. 

When a person is at the place where they are attacking an actress and using nicknames like "jac" and "Jacqui" like they know JGL personally they are in too deep in the parasocial relationship. 

Nothing Kate Mansi was going to say would change that and just be used against her.  If she had to say something it should have been a blanket pr statement saying she enjoyed Kraze, working with JGL, will miss her and wishes her best in the future.

True. 

 

I liked Kraze, but even I am shocked at this level of backlash cuz WOW.

 

She was darned if she did, darned if she didn't. 

 

 

49 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

Also- it is part of their job to speak highly of the show. As much access that we have to these performers and showrunners, it is not an actual relationship.

I would choose to engage less than many of them do. But if I was being accused of getting my co-star fired, and that I hated playing a LGBTQ character or story, I would probably speak up and challenge that too. But it doesn’t matter because people online entrenched in an opinion about someone are rarely going to change, they will just find another topic that they hate about them. And soap fans tweet the most heinous stuff directly to these people.

Soap actors are stars but not so big that they can easily avoid the total nasty behavior some people have towards them or the show on social media.

Also true.

 

But it is the nature of the social media beast that there has to be some engagement/networking going on. And for sure that slope be slippery. 

 

 

38 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

True. 

 

I liked Kraze, but even I am shocked at this level of backlash cuz WOW.

 

She was darned if she did, darned if she didn't. 

 

 

Also true.

 

But it is the nature of the social media beast that there has to be some engagement/networking going on. And for sure that slope be slippery. 

 

 

The one thing I will say about KM is that she has been in this particular genre of the business for years on two notoriously fanatical soaps.  She's in her 30's.  She should have known not to engage or put out one nice statement.   That absolutely doesn't excuse fan behavior.  I just think unfortunately she has to take the high road.  

48 minutes ago, carolineg said:

She should have known not to engage or put out one nice statement.

I think you hit the nail on the head here. A savvy celeb would have one post where they offer support for the fired actor, the LGBTQ relationship, and that Kristina continue as bisexual or however they were defining her sexuality.  It’s the replying to other people’s posts and comments that seems unprofessional. Why argue with what are essentially fans? You are validating their attention IMO, not repairing anything.

Finola Hughes does a great job commenting on positive posts on Instagram- someone praising a scene or actor and often she is there with a short but sweet compliment. To me, that’s how to do it when it comes to the actual show. You post on your own wall addressing something that you feel has to be commented on, and then just engage in positivity or on your co-worker’s posts because those are not parasocial relationships, those people actually know each other. Mansi, and truthfully, Laura Wright could learn some lessons from some of their peers when it comes to this.

I hate the mentality that they chose to be performers so anything is fair game. I think that is bullshit, they are still people and their job happens to be public facing.

11 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

I think you hit the nail on the head here. A savvy celeb would have one post where they offer support for the fired actor, the LGBTQ relationship, and that Kristina continue as bisexual or however they were defining her sexuality.  It’s the replying to other people’s posts and comments that seems unprofessional. Why argue with what are essentially fans? You are validating their attention IMO, not repairing anything.

Finola Hughes does a great job commenting on positive posts on Instagram- someone praising a scene or actor and often she is there with a short but sweet compliment. To me, that’s how to do it when it comes to the actual show. You post on your own wall addressing something that you feel has to be commented on, and then just engage in positivity or on your co-worker’s posts because those are not parasocial relationships, those people actually know each other. Mansi, and truthfully, Laura Wright could learn some lessons from some of their peers when it comes to this.

I hate the mentality that they chose to be performers so anything is fair game. I think that is bullshit, they are still people and their job happens to be public facing.

I would just note that by a huge majority there are positive, empowering posts being made. I know very well that the "delulu" ones stand out & get more attention & I guess that can't be helped. 

In Kate's last post she basically said she would no longer be commenting on this issue. I along with others had encouraged this idea much earlier. 

 

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18 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

I think you hit the nail on the head here. A savvy celeb would have one post where they offer support for the fired actor, the LGBTQ relationship, and that Kristina continue as bisexual or however they were defining her sexuality.  It’s the replying to other people’s posts and comments that seems unprofessional. Why argue with what are essentially fans? You are validating their attention IMO, not repairing anything.

It seems like a time suck for Kate Mansi and has to be mentally draining.

I am not PR person, but just giving a short little statement thanking people for their fan support, praising JGL, wishing her the best, and saying she's excited for what's next for Kristina would be fine like you said.

I am sure some people would still be mad, but a short statement would have taken 5 mins as opposed to the several hours Mansi spent going back and forth.  I am not blaming her for defending herself, but it feels like she was just making her life harder.

7 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I am sure some people would still be mad, but a short statement would have taken 5 mins as opposed to the several hours Mansi spent going back and forth.  I am not blaming her for defending herself, but it feels like she was just making her life harder.

I believe she was at it most of the night. I think she mentioned 4 a.m. Not good for her to be at it like that. 

2 hours ago, Taoboi said:

I liked Kraze, but even I am shocked at this level of backlash cuz WOW.

 

I wanted to respond to this comment specifically. One of the Kraze fans, who maintains the best YT channel on Kraze, polls people to find out how many say they discovered Kraze on her channel but then began to watch the show daily. What's encouraging is that so many say that is exactly what happened. I know some people will minimize this because it's self-reporting & there is no way to verify it. But, why would anyone lie? If it's not meaningful to them, they just probably would not fill out the form. 

8.16.2024

Creators: Frank & Doris Hursley

EP: Frank Valentini

Co-HW: Chris Van Etten & Elizabeth Korte

Associate HW: Cathy LePard

BDW: Nigel Campbell

SW: Kate Hall

DIR: Gary Tomlin

I think I know who Cates may arrest and Im not liking this direction

Poor Kate Mansi has to deal with the crazies now. These weird, creepy people who think they know everything about someone's working place and have ruined soaps in the past because they were obsessing with couples and demanded to write the show themselves. Not again. Not over "Jac".

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