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I did like Terence on the show but I agree a Robert Hays type would have been a more natural fit. 

That was such a good little show, even if I think they would have needed a big cast upheaval (mainly at the soap) if they had gotten another season.

Here's a bts visit with It Had to Be You, which appropriately seems to have been dropped in a vat of acid. 

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The clip of Faye finding out and calling the network is or was on Youtube too.

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Also among the guest cast: Charles Flohe (ex-Preacher, EON; ex-Connor, SaBa; ex-Grant, B&B).  He played the OTHER guy who sat with Jerry Hall at that restaurant.

I'm not a "Married...with Children" fan, but I love just about everything else that Ron Leavitt and Michael G. Moye wrote, so I really wanted to like this one.  But...oh my God...Jerry Hall, lol.

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With yet another name (Charles R. Cooper). Did he ever say why he changed his name so many times?

I actually thought Jerry worked well enough in this after a rough start. She brings a sweet quality to the role. Where I think they go wrong is it takes so long for Dinah (who is also very good) to start genuinely being kind to her instead of resenting her and trying to steal her offcamera boyfriend.

(I wonder if they were holding out for Mick to appear in the part) 

Still, I thought it was a decent pilot and I'm sorry it didn't get picked up. Dinah got Empty Nest a few years later but I thought they wasted her talents. 

Thanks @Franko. I never would have heard of a number of these pilots without you.

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Oh, you just know that if the show got picked up, Mick would have eventually cameoed or guest-starred.

I have a real fondness for Tartikoff-era pilots. You start thinking, "Could this have worked on another network? What would it replace? ..." I'm glad to be sharing some curios.

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I should have followed your lead and bailed right away.  But, like I said, I'm a fan of Ron Leavitt and Michael G. Moye's.  Most of the time, their unconventional casting worked.  (I still remember when peeps like Jessica Hahn and King Kong Bundy would pop up on MWC).  But that was one time when they needed a beautiful woman who also could act.

I think the Tartikoff era at NBC was pretty special.  There seemed to be more variety in the network's programming, so that you didn't end up with 12 sitcoms that all attempted to be the next "Friends" or "Seinfeld."

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I'm still very fond of that entirely too prescient Robert Altman/Garry Trudeau pilot Killer App (directed by Altman, written by Trudeau) about a Seattle dot-com firm at the height of the tech boom. I think they did it for Fox of all places, back when Fox still took some real chances. It either started at HBO or tried to migrate there after Fox, I'm not sure.

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Featuring (among many others) soap vets Ming-Na, Brian Kerwin and Brenda Strong, and the inimitable Stephen Lang from the Avatar films. The proto-Alexa is voiced by Altman perennial Sally Kellerman.

From Trudeau a few years back:

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