17 minutes ago, Khan said:

I've said it before and I'll say it again: at this point, after everything (and everyone) that Sonny has been through, reuniting him with Brenda is the only thing that makes even a little bit of sense.

Same.  It doesn't matter to me at all.  Just go back to Brenda at some point and I am fine.  I can tolerate any B pairing because I have zero investment.

They are running the bus back and forth on Finn lol, yikes. Great scenes with Terri, Porsha and Liz and ME is giving good effort.

The Mac, Felicia, Anna and Robert scenes were great. Mac has definitely been a missing vet piece and yeah Felicia is lucky he’s stuck around considering what a bum mother she was.

Glad they let Sam be mad at Jason and can’t wait for her and Carly to go at it again over Jason being gone to protect her. The Jarly scenes were pretty nice as well

I really like the Nina and Maxie friendship

I don’t care about Joss and her crew. I wish they would bring back Emma or Lila Rae so she can get a rival. Its so boring when soaps put younger characters in too friendly group dynamics.

6/17

Really really enjoyed the Alexis and Finn scenes. Nancy is probably ME’s best scene partner.

Willow reeeeally loves some Drew 😂

6/18

I actually found myself agreeing with BOTH Carly and Sam in that conversation and I actually don’t like either woman 😂😂. Sam used to be the most hardcore of hardcore ride or dies. But Sam was also right, Carly ABSOLUTELY does not want Jason to change.

11 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

Sam used to be the most hardcore of hardcore ride or dies. 

I know. It's wild how far she's come, but to her credit minus some short-term switchbacks and relapses it really did start with Danny's birth in 2012.

Just now, Vee said:

I know. It's wild how far she's come, but to her credit minus some short-term switchbacks and relapses it really did start with Danny's birth in 2012.

And honestly this Sam isn’t that surprising to me, I can’t remember if BM was playing Jason or if he was Drew when they were married and got away from the mob to start a company. Honestly it might be the aurora company I keep hearing about. But I remember they were both happily completely removed from the mob world at the time. And I liked the progression. Honestly I had become a big fan of BM’s Jason because of the moving away from Steve’s Jason’s life.

4 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

And honestly this Sam isn’t that surprising to me, I can’t remember if BM was playing Jason or if he was Drew when they were married and got away from the mob to start a company. Honestly it might be the aurora company I keep hearing about. But I remember they were both happily completely removed from the mob world at the time. And I liked the progression. Honestly I had become a big fan of BM’s Jason because of the moving away from Steve’s Jason’s life.

That was Aurora, yes. Drew still runs it and Nina's company (Crimson) is now under its corporate umbrella, hence their working relationship which led to their affair. I agree with you and talked about this and him and Sam a few posts ago.

Some fans think what people really want is Billy, which is an impossibility. 

On 6/15/2024 at 6:12 PM, Vee said:

I think a big part of what ended Jasam was possibly the whole Billy Miller drama BTS, where Kelly was extremely vocal offscreen and with fans, on social media, etc. about being for Drew and Sam staying together and not a Jasam reunion after Steve first returned in '17(?). She clearly seemed pissed and bitter about how her SO was treated, and frankly she was right that they had a lot more chemistry than her and Steve. Since then I believe Kelly has done a tearful, embarrassing mea culpa to their fans at fan events in the hopes of shoring up her audience.

To me Drew and Sam was the natural organic evolution for her character, as Sam had actually done the mature thing and pretty decisively turned the page and retired from her ride or die action junkie life with Jason as soon as she'd had Danny - first in her flirtation with John McBain (which should've gone further, John on GH was the only time I've liked him) then after Jason's 'death' in 2012, and then in her normal non-mob romances with guys like Silas, Patrick, etc. She made a choice and she articulated it onscreen more than once, and she only really relapsed when Steve's Jason returned IMO. Yes, Sam and BM's "Jason" had action and crime stuff early on but he was always a heroic man much more open with his emotions, loving and inclusive with his first son and with the Quartermaines, a man who embraced the Qs and Monica, etc. (They attempted to transplant some of these traits onto Steve when he returned but I never bought it.) Then Drew moved away from the mob entirely and into business, and they tried to paint this as him hemming Sam in and her not wanting to go straight when they were prepping for Steve's return. But Sam had already moved away from the mob long before Drew first appeared, so that was a fallacy.

Before Steve left last time and before they'd broken up, I'd always wanted them to write Sam off as her simply slowly growing disenchanted with their violent and regressive life (which she did anyway in 2020, in record time) and quietly leaving him with the strong implication that she was rejoining his brother Drew (as played by Miller) somewhere else. She's done all this again with Dante now, of course.

Both of those insta-marriages felt very rushed and pat. As did suddenly bringing back Kate, recast (though tbh I thought Kelly Sullivan did a solid job with Kate early on pre-Connie). That's when I knew they were out of ideas. How do you really follow up Sonny and Brenda married and the incredible confessional scenes that ended their marriage? Answer: You don't, unless you go back to an old favorite from the past.

Oh I love this post! I luckily had dropped GH around the time Sam went back to Jason as everything you mentioned was a clear evolution for her character. And putting her back with Steve’s Jason was more just trying to go with the status quo. I never actually liked Sam and Jason as a couple until Billy was playing him anyway.

23 minutes ago, Vee said:

That was Aurora, yes. Drew still runs it and Nina's company (Crimson) is now under its corporate umbrella, hence their working relationship which led to their affair. I agree with you and talked about this and him and Sam a few posts ago.

Did he start Aurora as Drew or Jason??

25 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

Did he start Aurora as Drew or Jason??

As Jason IIRC, but it was shortly before the Two Jasons reveal and I think was done as part of that setup to show how un-Jason he was becoming. BM's faux Jason had always been making an effort to move away from the mob and back to the Qs, Jake, Monica, etc. so it seemed like a natural evolution to me.

I think CM has actually done a great job with CW and even Willow and the business/political stuff under Mulcahey, so I'll be sorry to see it get diluted or go. It also suits him to grow the beard back out. He's approaching the levels he was at in his successful early months as Drew for me, before he became Carly's male purse and tanked onscreen.

Edited June 21, 20241 yr by Vee

Just now, Vee said:

As Jason IIRC, but it was shortly before the Two Jasons reveal and I think was done as part of that setup to show how un-Jason he was becoming. BM's faux Jason had always been making an effort to move away from the mob and back to the Qs, Jake, Monica, etc. so it seemed like a natural evolution to me.

Okay I thought that’s how I remembered it.

Onto 6/19

Holy cow Finn takes his Dad’s death a little hard and now they want to get CPS involved to take Violet? Has Gregory even been dead 2 weeks in soap time?

Mac being here is nice. I somehow missed Maxie having three freaking kids?!

I hope they’re not going to drag out this Cody telling Mac too long.

I hate to say it but I really do enjoy Natalia with Sonny and I absolutely hate Sonny and Natalia is an ass. But they do work together. Maurice lights up around Eva and seems to try.

6/20

Sam finding out Jason willingly stayed away from his kids for Carly, just wow. Everything she said and felt was completely valid. I’ve always considered the Sonny/Carly/Jason trio to be just the most absolute toxic in their devotion to each other.

Lord now Finn doesn’t even have a job. They are putting this man through it. I haven’t watched in years so I haven’t had the chance to hate Finn like you guys, so for me this all feels a little excessive 😂

The way that Jason cares so little about Drew is actually hilarious. They are literally brothers in blood only. I don’t even remember their interactions when Billy Miller was on the show. I’d like to go back and see what that relationship was like. The scene with Drew and Jason at the wedding was so good.

Also I absolutely love the Nina and Maxie relationship. They really do feel like gal pals. And the Drew/Willow/Nins story is truly about to heat up.

53 minutes ago, Vee said:

As Jason IIRC, but it was shortly before the Two Jasons reveal and I think was done as part of that setup to show how un-Jason he was becoming. BM's faux Jason had always been making an effort to move away from the mob and back to the Qs, Jake, Monica, etc. so it seemed like a natural evolution to me.

I think CM has actually done a great job with CW and even Willow and the business/political stuff under Mulcahey, so I'll be sorry to see it get diluted or go. It also suits him to grow the beard back out. He's approaching the levels he was at in his successful early months as Drew for me, before he became Carly's male purse and tanked onscreen.

Just saw your edit. I’m actually surprised how much I’m enjoying CM as Drew right now and it’s all because of the Nina story and the obvious simmering with Willow. Honestly the way I despised Ryan Lavery, I didn’t think I’d accept Cam as a recast for a role that I enjoyed the originator of quite a bit, but he’s won me over. And yes the beard helps tremendously.

Edited June 21, 20241 yr by Antoyne

46 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

Just saw your edit. I’m actually surprised how much I’m enjoying CM as Drew right now and it’s all because of the Nina story and the obvious simmering with Willow. Honestly the way I despised Ryan Lavery, I didn’t think I’d accept Cam as a recast for a role that I enjoyed the originator of quite a bit, but he’s won me over. And yes the beard helps tremendously.

Drew Q as he's been since the writing change suits his best work on soaps - breezy, cocky, a bit of a schemer/con man and mischievous, not unlike early Ryan. I've always liked Cameron, I just have never felt dark drama was his wheelhouse and he became intolerable on AMC and in recent years on GH because they tried to make him do material he isn't suited for. And Cynthia has soared. I had zero use for either character til March.

I've hung in as long as I have getting slowly through June because I wanted to see how much of this particular story continued (and also finding a lot of the material with Gregory's death/Finn's meltdown pretty good). Some of us have commented on how similar it seems to some of Mulcahey's work on GL with politician Ross Marler and his tangled relationships with mother and daughter Holly and Blake. I assume this will all get a hatchet taken to it with PM gone and be dismantled in short order, but I'm enjoying it for the moment. I'm ready to bail any day, so I will likely be done by July.

Edited June 21, 20241 yr by Vee

Look at you @Antoyne! Getting all caught up as I do 'homework' Jealous! 

I like Gio, but I prefer watching him with Joss. Trina is no longer entertaining with anyone.