I know there's been some discussion about the lack of attention to cliffhangers recently on GH, but today's episode was especially egregious.  Rather than ending on the shootout at the coffee warehouse, the episode ended with a discussion about mental illness and mens rea?  There are two shooters in the warehouse, but we need multiple scenes about Chase getting his father's death certificate from the hospital?  Aside from the content of the story, the structure of the episode made very little sense. 

17 hours ago, Aragorn said:

I think that this happens.

Marshall should never appear again. Lucy should turn over Deception to Maxie and leave town. Scott and Cyrus should stay.

And is there anything to your rationale besides personal likes & dislikes?

GH 6-1-24: GH Today & Fans

As soap fans in 2024 what is asked of us.

We are asked to suspend our disbelief long enough & well enough to entertain the story elements that are presented. To do so or not is a choice.

We are asked to get on the roller coaster ride & stay on & enjoy. To do so or not is a choice.

It is the nature of the beast for today's soaps that have gone on for as much as 60 years with many different people in leadership causing variation in what is said to be true about characters. To do so or not is a choice.

Quite naturally we have retcons & some other changes in characters that do not rise to the level of retcons. What we do or do not allow ourselves to believe is a choice.

What I see is happy fans who make certain choices & unhappy fans who will not make those choices or who make different choices.

I would offer Kristina as one character where fans are asked to believe a version of her that varies somewhat from previous versions. For the sake of story they have concentrated on a few specific things. To find this Kristina credible you must accept what: That she is a Daddy's girl. That she believed that Sonny lived by a code, his own code, unlike other people's codes. That he does at times have to resort to violence but that is only to protect himself, his territory or his family. While we saw Joss object to Sonny ordering a hit on an old man in a hospital bed, that also was an issue of what Sonny's code was or was not. Now, Kristina has seen with her own eyes, an enraged Sonny beating & kicking Dex who did not fight back & screaming that he was going to kill both Dex & Jason. This did not fit at all into the view Kristina had of her father. So, Kristina now has a crisis of faith, of belief, of her father & who she thought he was.

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12 hours ago, j swift said:

I know there's been some discussion about the lack of attention to cliffhangers recently on GH, but today's episode was especially egregious.  Rather than ending on the shootout at the coffee warehouse, the episode ended with a discussion about mental illness and mens rea?  There are two shooters in the warehouse, but we need multiple scenes about Chase getting his father's death certificate from the hospital?  Aside from the content of the story, the structure of the episode made very little sense. 

You might have missed a segment because the episode did end with the shootout.  And it looks like it will continue to the next episode (shocker!!!).  LOL

2 minutes ago, Toups said:

You might have missed a segment because the episode did end with the shootout.  And it looks like it will continue to the next episode (shocker!!!).  LOL

Sometimes the air show, live & abc.com & YouTubeTV etc. and the Hulu show have some slight variation to them. I do not understand how or why that would be, but I have seen it with my own two eyes. I watch at 2 in a zoom group watch which is the live feed. Sometimes I look at the Hulu episode for reference on some point. That's how I discovered this thing where the versions are not always the exact same. 

27 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Sometimes the air show, live & abc.com & YouTubeTV etc. and the Hulu show have some slight variation to them. I do not understand how or why that would be, but I have seen it with my own two eyes. I watch at 2 in a zoom group watch which is the live feed. Sometimes I look at the Hulu episode for reference on some point. That's how I discovered this thing where the versions are not always the exact same. 

Wow.  That is hard to believe.  I wonder why that happens.  So weird. 

4 minutes ago, Toups said:

Wow.  That is hard to believe.  I wonder why that happens.  So weird. 

The next time I see it, I will notate the difference. 

I say that & automatically figure it will never happen again. 

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37 minutes ago, Toups said:

Wow.  That is hard to believe.  I wonder why that happens.  So weird. 

Or, just as likely, I tuned out after Chase asked the head nurse at GH to track down some paperwork for him, and didn't make it to the end of the episode 🙈

1 hour ago, j swift said:

Or, just as likely, I tuned out after Chase asked the head nurse at GH to track down some paperwork for him, and didn't make it to the end of the episode 🙈

The way the show was paced yesterday (and for the last few months) I can totally understand why you thought that was the ending lol.  I did too and was about to turn off the tv and there was a whole other final segment.🤷‍♀️

 

1 hour ago, j swift said:

Or, just as likely, I tuned out after Chase asked the head nurse at GH to track down some paperwork for him, and didn't make it to the end of the episode 🙈

haha I don't blame you.  There's been a ton of boring scenes under this regime. 

Let's not ignore that the shootout was ridiculous.

Every day, Jason walks around bags of coffee. Is there no security there? It should be stronger than ever considering what's gone on. Instead, they're in a tight, enclosed warehouse area and NO ONE hits their target.

28 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

Let's not ignore that the shootout was ridiculous.

Every day, Jason walks around bags of coffee. Is there no security there? It should be stronger than ever considering what's gone on. Instead, they're in a tight, enclosed warehouse area and NO ONE hits their target.

But the premise is that the real reason he's there is to be bait to draw Pikeman out. I think probably he is intending to be out on the docks, by himself, obvious but not well protected. And, I figure the shooter was from Pikeman, so this is movement, finally, on that story. 

I do laugh, though, because is Jason a Luddite or something? I mean, a plain clipboard, not a tablet? Your basic pencil & paper, not electronic. 

17 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

But the premise is that the real reason he's there is to be bait to draw Pikeman out. I think probably he is intending to be out on the docks, by himself, obvious but not well protected. And, I figure the shooter was from Pikeman, so this is movement, finally, on that story. 

I do laugh, though, because is Jason a Luddite or something? I mean, a plain clipboard, not a tablet? Your basic pencil & paper, not electronic. 

Good point about movement on the Pikeman story -- and about Jason as a Luddite.

I actually didn't have as much a problem with the warehouse scene than with the Sonny/Jason scenes. Watching MB play the threatening and "dangerous" mob boss is now painful.

10 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

Good point about movement on the Pikeman story -- and about Jason as a Luddite.

I actually didn't have as much a problem with the warehouse scene than with the Sonny/Jason scenes. Watching MB play the threatening and "dangerous" mob boss is now painful.

OMG, I know what you mean! I'm thinking, little man, trying to exert control he does not have! And, I'm not slamming his height. I mean "little man" in the sense of not having power. 

8 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

OMG, I know what you mean! I'm thinking, little man, trying to exert control he does not have! And, I'm not slamming his height. I mean "little man" in the sense of not having power. 

I can understand Sonny being contemptuous and disdainful with Jason, but it's cringe hearing him threaten him. Just embarrassing.