47 minutes ago, Khan said:

Life comes at you hard on the Street.

I would love to see Kate Collins again on any soap.

Ya know who I miss, really miss? Anna Stuart. See her on The Doctors, not the same thing. 

Every time I even think about that storyline, I just get mad all over again.  I cannot stand what Megan McTavish did to that beautiful show.

5 minutes ago, Khan said:

Every time I even think about that storyline, I just get mad all over again.  I cannot stand what Megan McTavish did to that beautiful show.

Well, which one? AMC or GL? Goes for both!!! 

I don't know but the endless incestuous relationships soaps had, Like I Never Knew Vanessa Had The Hots For Quint before knowing he Was Her Brother On GL! Kinda Disturbing! The Prospect Of Victoria And Cole being Siblings etc

I was just thinking about Another World. Linda Dano had that #1 fan story & that was pretty dark. 

On 12/21/2023 at 3:26 PM, OpportunisticSlut said:

The rape storyline is Stephanie's version of Brooke sleeping with her daughter's husband. It went too far and made people, for the first time, loathe Stephanie, which is bad, since Stephanie was the queen bee.  And it was made in poor taste. 

Stephanie should have been arrested, tried and convicted for facilitating the rape.

Just now, Khan said:

Stephanie should have been arrested, tried and convicted for facilitating the rape.

I agree. Giving a shady man a key to your enemy's home should have landed her in jail.  

23 hours ago, titan1978 said:

Brent/Marian Crane is a very dark story from beginning to end. So dark the actor had to take a mental health break from plying the character.

I could see Bill Bell penning a similar tale for Y&R, but his take would be much slower, more complex and far less exploitative.

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On 12/20/2023 at 11:58 PM, OpportunisticSlut said:

Dark periods in shows where storylines turned sinister, scary and disturbed. Storylines that seemed like they came from a true crime-blog.

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Let me start with The Angela impostor storyline.

How can you go darker than this?

Disturbed, disfigured impostor plans the Forrester's demise.

When I was a child I used to have nightmares from her scenes with the veil.

I LOVED this story and it was Bill Bell at his finest. And darkest. It began slowly and slowly build up to this obsessed, full of hatred demented woman, who wanted to destroy Stephanie.

Something truly amazing is that Bill Bell HINTED about this story for 300 episodes, before even starting it. 

 

 

This. The Angela/Deveney story was so dark and scary. There were hints in the very early episodes when Stephanie would be caught lying about visiting her sister Lorraine (later Pam). 

14 hours ago, AMCOLTLLover said:

It’s not from an US Soap but from the UK.

Silas Blissett from Hollyoaks! He was one of the smartest and best written serial killer ever in mY opinion. He killed like promiscuous girls. I liked to call him the Slu* Slayer lol

The original Silas storyline was so good

I would also say Ceara Connor’s incest storyline on All My Children

I remember when i got Guiding Light on here in my country we had the 1983 episodes and the rape of Beth by Bradley Raines was definitely a brutal turning point for the show. The Eli Simms story was heavy too.

 

2 hours ago, cassadine1991 said:

The original Silas storyline was so good

I would also say Ceara Connor’s incest storyline on All My Children

Oh yes.  I couldn’t wait until I got home to watch a brand new episode. It was so exciting coz he was like some likeable grandpa but could turn so vile! It got even better when Lynsey figured him out and he managed to make everyone think she is crazy lol he even set up the epic Branden Brady for Rae’s murder. God how epic was the Lynsey vs Silas back and forth lol I couldn’t miss an episode and was so excited. I was in my teens and shocked how Hollyoaks turned into such complex and well written show. It was always a good teen soap but all of the sudden it became dark. Like real dark 🤣 

13 hours ago, OpportunisticSlut said:

I saw some clips and he makes my skin crawl...

He had that effect! But it was sooooo good. His cat and mouse play with Lynsey was the best storyline ever! All of 2010-2012 was Hollyoaks in his prime again after 1-2 dull years. Like seriously. 
Silas saved this show tbh or more the people who created his character and his story. Such a tragedy that one of the most likeable girls with the dullest personalities and story’s got sacrificed for it lol his first victim was not even the real one he wanted to kill. India’s sister was meant to get killed but Texas didn’t felt in the mood for the online date and sent her sister instead and it was Christmas. Really brutal.. The Halloween 2011 twist where he went after Lynsey and Texas was so good and 4 women were wearing a cat women outfit and when he thought he got Lynsey he realized he just murdered his own daughter Heidi! I will never forget how much I cried and how shaken I was after that. I’m a men and I’m not getting so shaken up or emotional messed up but that was so dark especially after the way he strangled Rae a few weeks earlier. So dark.. but so good written.

11 hours ago, Liberty City said:

And then Bobby murdering Silas? Iconic.

As dull as Hollyoaks became during Covid.. Silas return and Bobby’s arc was the saving grace for this show. I will love Hollyoaks til it gets cancelled someday because I grew up with it since childhood and still love most of of the story’s and it’s heading in a great direction again. But the murdering Bobby was so spectacular! Not as great as 2010/11 Silas but close enough! 
Now with Silas gone forever I’m dissapointed in the way Mercedes will leave someday lol If Jen/Mercedes will leave someday I wanted Silas to finally kill her. Now the only one I want to do the job is Mitzeee for what she did to her and Riley lol
 

 

On As The World Turns, Oakdale police detective Hal Munson is dating Denise Darcy, an aspiring fashion model who is doing some runway work for designer Barbara Ryan. A greasy Trump-like real estate developer named Tad Channing, after terrorizing half of Oakdale goes missing and is eventually found dead. To make a long story short, Hal discovers that Tad is involved in some dark mechanisms like pornography. Hal, finding evidence is forced to watch evidence, which includes a porn film featuring his girlfriend Denise. Hal, obtaining a search warrant, has to go through Denise’s belongings and finds a key piece of evidence, as Denise, unsuspecting, enters her apartment. At first, she’s happy to see Hal, but sees Hal with the incriminating evidence and proceeds to tell Hal her grim tale of being lured into doing porn as a young woman and being blackmailed by Tad and not being able to take it anymore when he taunted her that final time and tells Hal how she ended up killing him.  Seeing Hal’s reaction and facial expressions as she tearfully tells him everything and breaks down is so compelling. It’s not obviously violent but hearing her tell the man she loves a grim tale what she endured is heartbreaking.

Jim Thomasen (AMC): a character and storyline that were so dark, it apparently forced Roscoe Born, who originated the role, to quit the show in mid-storyline.  (If that is why he quit so abruptly, then I do not blame him.  I mean, a man who engineers a plane crash to cover up his child pornography?  And do not get me started on Brooke English basically getting away with killing him later in cold blood.  Or the means Tad used to help exonerate her.  Or poor Robin Mattson's hysterical "OMG, that's Amanda [in one of those pictures]!" in that courtroom.)

2 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

On As The World Turns, Oakdale police detective Hal Munson is dating Denise Darcy, an aspiring fashion model who is doing some runway work for designer Barbara Ryan. A greasy Trump-like real estate developer named Tad Channing, after terrorizing half of Oakdale goes missing and is eventually found dead. To make a long story short, Hal discovers that Tad is involved in some dark mechanisms like pornography. Hal, finding evidence is forced to watch evidence, which includes a porn film featuring his girlfriend Denise. Hal, obtaining a search warrant, has to go through Denise’s belongings and finds a key piece of evidence, as Denise, unsuspecting, enters her apartment. At first, she’s happy to see Hal, but sees Hal with the incriminating evidence and proceeds to tell Hal her grim tale of being lured into doing porn as a young woman and being blackmailed by Tad and not being able to take it anymore when he taunted her that final time and tells Hal how she ended up killing him.  Seeing Hal’s reaction and facial expressions as she tearfully tells him everything and breaks down is so compelling. It’s not obviously violent but hearing her tell the man she loves a grim tale what she endured is heartbreaking.

I think that is the kinkiest and most lurid Douglas Marland ever got on daytime, "A New Day in Eden" notwithstanding.

3 minutes ago, Khan said:

Jim Thomasen (AMC😞 a character and storyline that were so dark, it apparently forced Roscoe Born, who originated the role, to quit the show in mid-storyline.  (If that is why he quit so abruptly, then I do not blame him.  I mean, a man who engineers a plane crash to cover up his child pornography?  And do not get me started on Brooke English basically getting away with killing him later in cold blood.  Or the means Tad used to help exonerate her.  Or poor Robin Mattson's hysterical "OMG, that's Amanda [in one of those pictures]!" in that courtroom.)

 

And it is a prime example of something execs should never do, which is to leave the actor n the dark about their character. What is funny is that Angela Shapiro decided to blackball him. She put the word out that he should never work in this town again. After she did, Born was hired onto ATWT, GL, DAYS & I think one more!