Jump to content

Characters that didn't survive a recast...


Recommended Posts

  • Members
17 minutes ago, Franko said:

Hindsight is 50/50, but I wish they'd have killed off Decker instead of Dawn and given her Jenny Eckert's storyline. Was Jennifer Guthrie about to leave or fired by Monty?

Pretty sure fired by Monty.  And she wanted to sideline the Quartermaines anyway.

 

The sad part about Monty’s second run is that she was right about some of what she wanted.  After Duke 2 and with the current characters on the show it was time to pair Robert with Anna.  Holly should have been more of a spoiler there, and bringing her back was the right time.  A family like the Eckerts was needed on the show.  They had lost any semblance of a true blue collar family on the show.  Mac was a good idea too, and it could have all been good.  But she didn’t hire strong writers and rushed the changes too fast, and got rid of too many things people were responding to.

 

I read an interview on We Love Soaps with Denise Alexander once and she said Monty was dramatically brilliant.  She knew how to get the most drama out of a story.  I think that was absolutely true.  But that seems to only be true when folks like Marland and Falken-Smith we’re providing the stories, other times she relied on the charms of her cast and her dynamic production to push through crappy stories.  And her return in the 1990’s was too ego driven.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 92
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

  • Members
On 3/6/2018 at 5:21 PM, Paul Raven said:

Taylor only agreed to a 1 year contract. She planned to leave so they killed off Sally for the drama.

Probably better to have her leave town or go missing.

 

Right. But I understand that she chose not to renew because they wasted her. The great outcome is that she returned to AMC... just sorry that Sally Frame became a casualty. 

 

2 hours ago, Franko said:

Hindsight is 50/50, but I wish they'd have killed off Decker instead of Dawn and given her Jenny Eckert's storyline. Was Jennifer Guthrie about to leave or fired by Monty?

 

Guthrie was doing fine in the role. (So was Sharon Case two recasts earlier, but anyway...) But yep, she was let go. And then things got even more weird when, a few months later, Camille Cooper was cast as Nicki Langton - who, like Guthrie, looked like a younger Monica Quartermaine. Except she shared the same father as Dawn, and not Monica as a mother. And then they got rid of her, who was also pretty good, along with Gerald Hopkins, who was a compelling grown-up AJ Quartermaine. All this happened like in a year's time, so no one could blame viewers if they had psychological whiplash from all the musical-chair cast changes.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members
2 hours ago, YurSoakinginit said:

Guthrie was doing fine in the role. (So was Sharon Case two recasts earlier, but anyway...) But yep, she was let go. And then things got even more weird when, a few months later, Camille Cooper was cast as Nicki Langton - who, like Guthrie, looked like a younger Monica Quartermaine. Except she shared the same father as Dawn, and not Monica as a mother. And then they got rid of her, who was also pretty good, along with Gerald Hopkins, who was a compelling grown-up AJ Quartermaine. All this happened like in a year's time, so no one could blame viewers if they had psychological whiplash from all the musical-chair cast changes.

 

Tee-hee ... I just got done posting what might be the definitive list of who was in and out during Monty 2.0. Cooper was in and out within 1992 (with a guest spot in 1993, I think). Hopkins was summer 1991-December 1992.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

Mickey Horton, DAYS.

 

When John Clarke retired in 2004 they first recasted with Richard Voigts temporarily. Then John Ingle played the role for about two years, he was awful, and looked older than Frances Reid. Then Mickey was off-screen for two years, always said to be in the other room, until they recasted again with Kevin Dobson, who felt too young and played Mickey like a mob lawyer or something. I felt bad for KD because during the Day of Days event in 2008 he kept talking about playing the new and improved Mickey Horton. What he didn't know was that he had already taped his final scenes. A year later Mickey was killed off off-screen and the flashbacks they used were of course of John Clarke.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members
15 hours ago, Khan said:

Believe it or not, I actually enjoyed Gerald Hopkins as A.J.  More so than I did anyone else, really.

Same.  I thought he was attractive, could act, and had a rootable factor that Kanan did not.  I still feel Billy Warlock was a terrible miscast.  And I like him, but it didn’t work for me.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members
11 hours ago, Sindacco said:

Mickey Horton, DAYS.

 

When John Clarke retired in 2004 they first recasted with Richard Voigts temporarily. Then John Ingle played the role for about two years, he was awful, and looked older than Frances Reid. Then Mickey was off-screen for two years, always said to be in the other room, until they recasted again with Kevin Dobson, who felt too young and played Mickey like a mob lawyer or something. I felt bad for KD because during the Day of Days event in 2008 he kept talking about playing the new and improved Mickey Horton. What he didn't know was that he had already taped his final scenes. A year later Mickey was killed off off-screen and the flashbacks they used were of course of John Clarke.

 

In hindsight, DAYS should have killed off Mickey as soon as John Clarke retired. In turn, GH shouldn't have let John Ingle go (though he did return after DAYS). Those Mickey recasts were all over the map.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members
1 hour ago, titan1978 said:

Same.  I thought he was attractive, could act, and had a rootable factor that Kanan did not.  I still feel Billy Warlock was a terrible miscast.  And I like him, but it didn’t work for me.

 

He was definitely more complex and rootable than Kanan. He was handsome and had a sharp demeanor that you'd expect to see in a rich boy spoiled... whereas Kanan had this rougher, street vibe that was more in line with a less sophisticated, dumb-jock stereotype. Hopkins looked enough like his on-screen parents & half-brother. Kanan looked TOO much like his half-brother, but strangely somehow, not nearly as much like his parents.

 

And you're right: Then came Billy Warlock all the way from Mars, looking nothing like either of his predecessors, to play neither of their versions of AJ. (This accomplishment obviously made him a shoe-in to replace Michael Lowry, who replaced Shawn Christian, as Ross on OLTL.)

 

BTW, Hopkins has worked as a Data Systems Administrator since leaving acting. And his teen aged son, Jacob Hopkins, has been a pretty successful actor & voice performer for a while now.

 

Edited by YurSoakinginit
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members
1 hour ago, titan1978 said:

I still feel Billy Warlock was a terrible miscast.  And I like him, but it didn’t work for me.

 

I know I'm crazy for saying this, but I think Billy Warlock might have made a better Blackie Parrish recast.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members
16 minutes ago, amybrickwallace said:

 

In hindsight, DAYS should have killed off Mickey as soon as John Clarke retired. In turn, GH shouldn't have let John Ingle go (though he did return after DAYS). Those Mickey recasts were all over the map.

John Clarke asked TPTB to kill Mickey off instead of Maggie during the Salem Stalker storyline. He wanted to retire and he didn't want Suzanne Rogers to lose her job. Since they brought all the SSK victims back from the dead they might have been forced to recast the role anyway.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • On Soap Opera Network

  • Community Posts

    • At this point we all know how to translate a soap script "I'll love you forever" = the character is dead by the end of the episode "You'll never have children" = until the actress gets pregnant in real ife and "She's gone forever" = see ya on Friday's episode
    • Tre’s hair kinda looks like Margaery Tyrell’s from Game of Thrones at the Purple Wedding lolol.  This wedding looks so f’n tacky.  Dolores really looks lovely, though.  I hope she got paid real well by Bravo after everything Teresa put her through.  And, of course, the real drama is who wasn’t there—Joey & Melissa, Kath (+ Victoria, Joey, aaand RICHIE lol) & Rosie and their mom, and Dina (I really want the full story here beyond not wanting to appear on Bravo). Re.: BH this week… wtf was that, Rinna?!?  She’s scared she hasn’t brought anything to the table beyond Lois but she was the one who humiliated her damn self with whatever that was.  I do agree that Sutton should just say she did it to defend Garcelle.  Like why not??  And to Rinna’s credit, I will also agree that Sutton’s, in her own words, “moment of flippantness” did defame Harry… husbands who keep their noses clean (NOT Mo and PK!) should be left alone, in my opinion.  But this misunderstanding (and it does feel like it was) is beyond lol. Ya didn’t miss Kyle, Crystal, and Diana at all.  And, ya, Dorit is so much lighter & brighter away from The Coven, but she is a treacherous chameleon through and through.
    • Speaking of the Locher Room, that was a lovely tribute to John Gabriel as well.  I was finally able to finish it on a rainy Sunday afternoon.  Several of the guests commented on having had few scenes with him, but of course once I thought about it, I remembered Nancy Addison and Diana van der Vlis have both been gone 20 years or so. Seneca's story with Jill did overlap with both Delia and Rae's relationships with Frank.  To Ilene Kristen's point about Seneca being too smart to get involved with Delia, he was too smart even to work with Delia or Rae to keep Frank and Jill apart, whatever he may have worked solo to do. There were some interesting Rae/Seneca scenes post-Kimberly that made it onto YouTube, fighting over Seneca and Kim's baby.  I recall one really good one even made it into the St. Patrick's Day marathon that SoapNet would air every year. That was a nice story about JG reaching out to LS after she was let go.  For some reason, I thought Rae and Seneca were both written out around the same time—right after Labine and Mayer's departure—but I guess Seneca stayed on for a while as the generic doctor?  I can't imagine him interacting with any of the new characters from the mid-'80s.
    • Watching the DC Final. I never paid attention that Kyrgios has only won 7 titles?  And Nishioka would make a pretty drag queen. 
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy