Members cassadine1991 Posted September 16, 2013 Members Share Posted September 16, 2013 Interesting words about the Gottlieb years and the transition from Rauch's era Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SFK Posted September 16, 2013 Members Share Posted September 16, 2013 These excerpts are giving me Life. Must grab this book. All of the guilty pleasure of a gossip thread baptized in the legitimacy of personal truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted September 16, 2013 Members Share Posted September 16, 2013 I'm confused about some of those timelines. Brenda Brock makes it sound like she was on OLTL for a year under Gottlieb, but it was just a few months, I think. And I thought it was Gottlieb who started Alex/Carlo, not Rauch. Rauch had John Fiedler too, but I don't think Marilyn Chris meant Gottlieb did that story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Posted September 16, 2013 Members Share Posted September 16, 2013 Linda Gottlieb: Well, so what? That's probably true, but movies aren't done that way, and primetime shows aren't done that way. It isn't about that - it's about getting the best show. You don't get a good show when you're shooting in sequence; it's a ridiculous way to do things. To cling to that - people probably liked horses and buggies, too. What a bitch. Yes I thnk Tomlin & Valentini showed us that OLTL can film out of order but still have the cast being friends off set, it doesnt hurt the show. Im glad LG was only there 3 years I think JF may have played more than one role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members All My Shadows Posted September 16, 2013 Members Share Posted September 16, 2013 Searching for names through the book...absolutely no mention of Mary Gordon-Murray or the character of Becky Lee whatsoever, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted September 16, 2013 Author Members Share Posted September 16, 2013 John, you take way too much [!@#$%^&*] personal. And I don't believe her comments were about Storm's directly - there was a Bob Woods quote between that, talking about what she's talking about (the shooting process). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Posted September 16, 2013 Members Share Posted September 16, 2013 There is talk about the 1st Becky Lee, Jill Voight & how great her audtion was. Well maybe that was taken out of context but Ive also read from OLTLers b4 that LG was all about the editing & did very little on hands producing which many did not like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr. Vixen Posted September 16, 2013 Members Share Posted September 16, 2013 I'm sorry I'm jumping in late so forgive me if this has been stated, but is there anything in the book about Judith Light and the rumors of her saying no to a return? EDIT - I mean, in addition to what was mentioned on the first page re: Karen and Herb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SFK Posted September 16, 2013 Members Share Posted September 16, 2013 It's hard for me to wrap my brain around the Gottlieb hate because that's when I found OLTL for myself, and I adored it. I totally hear HBS on all of the annoying little things like sound cues done in post. And comraderie among cast and crew is so vital for a happy healthy productive work enviornment, so for Linda to minimize its importance when it comes to putting forth a "better" show is just incongruous. I remember reading an interview of Robin Strasser where she talked about the cast taping on the 4th of July and grilling burgers and dogs out on the sidewalk on breaks, and that is just the sort of priceless dedication to craft you see most often in low-to-no pay theatre. When my friend posted on FB that she ran into a bunch of the AMC cast and crew laughing and living it up in a bar in Stamford after a long work week, I thought about that same priceless comraderie. Being on a NY soap in the '70s and '80s must have been magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted September 16, 2013 Author Members Share Posted September 16, 2013 There's a lot of compliments in there re: Gottlieb as well. I agree that her production had no peer. The only thing I can recall in the book re: a Judith Light appearance was Tony Call's comment about what he'd heard of an RC idea for their joint return. Judith Light says she hadn't heard about that and that's all that I remember reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Posted September 16, 2013 Members Share Posted September 16, 2013 I think lG did wel with putting the show together but didnt like her vision. I personally really enjoyed OLTL from 1992-96 but a lot of that was also Malone/Griffith's writing team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SFK Posted September 16, 2013 Members Share Posted September 16, 2013 The Gottlieb era wooed me with the marriage of the intriguing Lord saga and the elegant production values. I found Dorian, Viki, and long-dead Victor to be so fascinating, and I maintain that pre-"Heart of a Lord" Victor was the most fascinating dead character to carry story on a soap opera that I have ever witnessed. I remember bits of OLTL from my mom's VHS viewing as she ironed clothes and I did my elementary school homework, but I didn't really follow the show until I was in high school and I recall asking her if Victor had ever actually been on the show. She replied, "Oh GOD, yes..." and I'd ask her endless questions about the Lord history as she'd watched since day one. I'm a sucker for dark psychological family drama, and when you throw sexy early '90s sax, social issues, penthouses, mansions, secret rooms, furs, and biracial people on top of it, well, Gottlieb's OLTL was right up my alley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SFK Posted September 16, 2013 Members Share Posted September 16, 2013 A few years ago on New Year's Day, I saw Linda Gottlieb in a chinchilla jacket and hat in Penn Station as we were both getting off of our trains and I wish to God that I would have stopped her and picked her brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EricMontreal22 Posted September 16, 2013 Members Share Posted September 16, 2013 ALthough interesting I haven't encountered too many stories about the problematic cocaine use that plagued AMC and other New York (especially) soaps in the 80s and the Broadway theatre scene--maybe due to OLTL having a less young cast in the early 80s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EricMontreal22 Posted September 17, 2013 Members Share Posted September 17, 2013 Sam and Gordon did work at DS together--though I've never been able to tell if they actually worked together or just were essentially interchangeable HWs. I assumed that's why Hall came over to OLTL with Gordon though. And yes, Nixon did offer Loving to those actors--I believe Ellen saw it as a demotion (which, with Loving so low rated, it would have been, I suppose. Of course Loving had a bad history with black characters until Angie moved on.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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