Apparantly TMZ, CNN & others are reporting that she has died, and this from her publicist

RIP

http://www.tmz.com/

Having read the coroner's report Whitney Houston's death was far more grisly and pathetic than it first appeared.

She had major burns on her back from the bathtub water, water that was scalding hot hours after she was discovered. She also had some bruises and cuts on her. She was also found face down in the tub so here's the inference: she took her hit of cocaine, had the water running, had a heart incident (not attack but palpitation, fluttering, angina), fell forward into the bathtub coked out, with alcohol, marijuana and prescriptions going through her veins and she drowned.

So sad and ultimately such a pathetic way to die.

That's awful. I just assumed she'd taken drugs and fallen asleep/drowned. Not that that's any better, but this sounds soul-crushing.

But if the water was running, why wouldn't the tub have overflowed sooner and started to flood the room, alerting people that something was wrong?

But if the water was running, why wouldn't the tub have overflowed sooner and started to flood the room, alerting people that something was wrong?

The coroners report did not say the water was still running, it only said that the water was scalding hot hours after the body had been removed. A lot of higher end bathtubs, particularly in a hotel like the Beverly Hilton, have overflow drains at the rim of the tub (much like a sink does) to prevent overflow.

Duh! I should have thought of that. I've seen a lot of bathtubs with overflow drains at hotels. I wish I had one at home though, lol.

Duh! I should have thought of that. I've seen a lot of bathtubs with overflow drains at hotels. I wish I had one at home though, lol.

I think most of us, at one point in our lives or another, could have used a tub with an overflow drain!

I think most of us, at one point in our lives or another, could have used a tub with an overflow drain!

Definitely!

Yeah, that's the tristate are local MyNetwork news. Apparently, Brenda Blackmon is a friend of the family.

I have a hard time imagining no one noticing that the water was running for that long. The sound of bath water and shower water running is different, and when we turn on the water to fill a tub, it's coming out loud, strong, and plentiful, so overflow seems natural, especially given the fact that she fell in. Even with an overflow hole, those holes can't always "catch up" in time to water running. I don't know. I'm not implying anything, just trying to wrap my brain around it. Still very hard for me to imagine ignoring someone being in the bathroom, let alone tub, for that long.

Did you guys hear the Joan Rivers controversy? She wrote in her recent book:

"I hate Houston ... it's crawling with bugs. Oh, wait, that's Whitney Houston; I'm sorry, my bad. (Can I just mention that Whitney looked fabulous at the Grammys? She was in mahogany from head to toe.)"

I did not think it was funny and found it classless and too soon for a joke like that

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/18/joan-rivers-whitney-houston-joke-too-far_n_1527614.html

According to LAT, Cissy Houston is planning on writing Nippy's memoir for the fans. So that's a reality show and a book.

Did you guys hear the Joan Rivers controversy? She wrote in her recent book:

"I hate Houston ... it's crawling with bugs. Oh, wait, that's Whitney Houston; I'm sorry, my bad. (Can I just mention that Whitney looked fabulous at the Grammys? She was in mahogany from head to toe.)"

I did not think it was funny and found it classless and too soon for a joke like that

http://www.huffingto..._n_1527614.html

I love Joan Rivers. She's fearless...it's a tasteless joke, it wouldn't ever be the "right" time.

Did you guys hear the Joan Rivers controversy? She wrote in her recent book:

"I hate Houston ... it's crawling with bugs. Oh, wait, that's Whitney Houston; I'm sorry, my bad. (Can I just mention that Whitney looked fabulous at the Grammys? She was in mahogany from head to toe.)"

I did not think it was funny and found it classless and too soon for a joke like that

http://www.huffingto..._n_1527614.html

I love Joan but no! That was too much, too soon.

From Jezebel:

It's been nearly a year since Whitney Houston was found dead—after drowning in a hotel bathtub from the effects of chronic cocaine use and heart disease—and now Cissy Houston is sharing the intimate details of her daughter's life, both good and bad, in her new book Remembering Whitney. More than anything, Cissy comes across not as a grieving mother, but as a cranky old lady who hates everything.

The book starts out with Cissy being annoyed that someone rang her doorbell while she was busy inside her apartment, which really sets the tone for the book and gets the reader acquainted with the real Cissy and how she truly feels about things. Here, we present the best quotes from her book.

On marijuana:

I never could stand the smell of marijuana and didn't want to be around it.

On her children and their generosity with the neighborhood kids:

They were sometimes a little too friendly for my taste…Mommy works hard. I don't mind you sharing, but let's not get crazy about this, you know?

On teaching a grade school-aged Whitney, whom she called Nippy, about bullies:

"Sometimes you have to just tell people to kiss your ass and keep on walking." I tried to explain that to her, but she'd just say, "Mommy you don't like anybody."

On being a stage mother:

Nippy thought I was hard on her, too, but really it was just that I wouldn't let her relax and get lazy. "You gotta represent!"

On Japan:

Nippy loved Japan, even though she couldn't understand what anybody was saying and they couldn't understand her.

On Whitney pretending to be from the projects:

Trying to be like the other girls in East Orange, she started bragging about being from the projects, or "the bricks"-a habit that drove me crazy, especially since John and I had fought so hard to give our kids a solid middle-class upbringing.

"What bricks?" I'd snap. "You ain't never lived in no damn projects! You ain't from no bricks. You're gonna get a brick upside your head."

On drugs:

I grew up in a time when young people would drink liquor if they wanted to get high.

On Robyn Crawford, Whitney's lifelong friend:

I had a bad feeling about that child from the first time I saw her. There was something about the way she carried herself, a kind of arrogance, that I didn't like. Though she was a pretty girl, in my opinion Robyn wasn't as bright as Nippy. She also seemed abrasive and unapologetic about that…As I would later learn, she was also gay, although that had nothing to do with why I didn't like her.

On whether or not Robyn and Whitney were lovers, as they were rumored to be:

I knew I didn't want Robyn around my daughter, and I told Nippy that. There wasn't much I could do, though. Nippy liked Robyn, and she was past the age when I could forbid her from seeing someone. Kids have a mind of their own-when they get older, they want to experiment with all kinds of things. I know there has been a lot of speculation over the years about the friendship between Nippy and Robyn and whether it was more than that. I don't honestly know what exactly when on between them, back when they first met or later on. Nippy never shared details of her personal life with me about things like that, but I do know that NIppy and Robyn cared a lot about each other.

On the bullshit rumor that Aretha Franklin was Whitney's godmother:

I would tease Ree about supposedly being Nippy's godmother-a story that started years before, when I was touring with her and she came over to our house on Dodd Street. Nippy was so impressed with Aretha that she started telling all her friends she was her godmother and the story stuck because Ree never denied it. Eventually, reporters picked it up and everybody assumed it was true. And Nippy never did stop telling people that.

Speaking to Whitney's first stylist:

"You can put all that crap right back…I don't know who you got that for, but Whitney is not wearing it. She is not shaking no butt, showing no skin, nothing like that."

On Whitney grinding her teeth:

I can't get any sleep with that noise!

On Bobby Brown:

Supposedly he even got shot once at a block party, which didn't impress me very much.

On her ex-husband remarrying:

Now, John was a Virgo, so he wasn't above trying to hurt people.

On "I Will Always Love You" being called Whitney's best song:

Well, I didn't know about that. Nippy's rendition of "Greatest Love of All" was one of the most beautiful songs she ever recorded, as far as I was concerned, and it had become her signature song.

On "Humpin' Around":

Now, I knew Bobby had some success as a singer. I knew his group New Edition was popular, and that kids seemed to think he was cool. But I really didn't care for his music. And I especially didn't understand the appeal of his big hit song at the time, something called 'Humpin' Around.' It may have been successful, but I couldn't stand that song or the video he made to promote it, where he was dancing and fooling around with a bunch of women on camera.

On Bobbi Kristina's birth:

They Named her Bobbi Kristina-which wasa a hell of a lot better than what they'd initially chosen for her. A few days earlier, when I had asked Bobby and Nippy what they were naming the baby, Bobby said some kind of crazy name I couldn't even pronounce-Tekatia, or Takeka, or some mess like that.

"Oh no, That is not happening. You can't do that to that poor child! Just name her Christina or something, some nice name like that."

On Nelson Mandela:

I'll tell you something, Nelson Mandela is an impressive man.

On Whitney's infamous "Crack is Wack" Diane Sawyer interview:

I hated that whole interview, and while I know it wasn't Diane's fault, it was obvious that Nippy wasn't ready for prime time, you know?

On Being Bobby Brown:

I only watched part of one episode. That was all I could stand…She was such a mess.

On the mess in Whitney's Atlanta mansion, the day Cissy showed up with two sheriff's deputies to take her to rehab:

Somebody had been spray-painting the walls and doors, painting big glaring eyes and strange faces. They were evil eyes, staring out like a threat. Who would do such a thing? It just seemed crazy, having these strange images painted right on the walls all through the house.

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"Sometimes you have to just tell people to kiss your ass and keep on walking." I tried to explain that to her, but she'd just say, "Mommy you don't like anybody."

"What bricks?" I'd snap. "You ain't never lived in no damn projects! You ain't from no bricks. You're gonna get a brick upside your head."

"They Named her Bobbi Kristina-which wasa a hell of a lot better than what they'd initially chosen for her. A few days earlier, when I had asked Bobby and Nippy what they were naming the baby, Bobby said some kind of crazy name I couldn't even pronounce-Tekatia, or Takeka, or some mess like that."

I am sitting here CTFU because she sounds like my mom or my aunt when they get upset.

I wanted to start a thread the other day about the Cissy Oprah interview, so I'm glad that you bumped this one. Did anyone watch it? A lot of people are up in arms that Cissy said she'd be upset if Whitney had been gay. Not exactly a PC answer, but an honest one nonetheless. Cissy was in the biz and in the black church, she certainly knew and liked gay people. But she's still a very religious woman of a certain age with old school values about homosexuality. It's one thing for a fellow singer or church member to be gay, but that was NOT for one of her children. I don't agree with it, but I understand the mentality.

Was it a new episode? For some reason, I thought that they were rerunning an earlier episode from last year or before. If it is new, then I'll catch it at some point.

Re: Cissy's aversion to Whitney's (alleged) homosexuality. I can't say that I'm surprised that she'd say that, as she never struck me as the kind of woman that'd have a live and let live outlook when it came to this. I'm not sure how I feel about the claim (as per what I'd read in the Jezebel comment section) that she had a long history of being homophobic, though....