As far as couples getting together at the very end, AYWT had a mixed bag. Carly and Jack were a given, Casey and Allison same, ditto the awful Janet and Dusty. Katie and Chris were the most unpopular choice, because a) they had no chemistry they were rushed together because of time restraints c) they ruined a really popular couple Reid/Luke and d) we all know Katie should have been with Simon. As far as Lily and Holden, I guess TPTB did the best they could leaving them in limbo, because we all knew that Lilden meant Jon Hensley and Martha Byrne. I still think they should have been a little creative and do two parallel stories (like the movie Sliding Doors) with Noelle Beck's Lily reuniting with Damian, and Martha Byrne's Lily reconecting with Holden.

And would it have killed them to throw Lisa a bone by having her get a phone call from an off-screen Grant Coleman asking her for a date?

Allison having Victor should have been one scene. Her manuscript was just fill in the blank mush and sounded nothing like her (I don't think she - or anyone - would call Jessica someone "who rescued herself").

I liked it better when she called Viki's girls, "slutty and coco."

Carl, you've made a very interesting point about the "islanding" of family. The interaction (or lack thereof) between Viki & her immediate family and Bo and his definitely doesn't correlate to their history. I still liked the finale much more than you did but if I had been an everyday viewer for the last decade or so, I might not have been as forgiving. I tend to not get TOO wrapped up in trying to make sense of retcons and continuity blunders, especially on a show like OLTL has apparently been, with musical parent/children combinations, doubles, and repeated back-from-the dead characters.

To me, wondering why there was no mention of any ties between Bo/Nora and Clint/Viki/Jessica/Natalie isn't just wondering about a continuity blunder, as these characters had close relationships for decades. Only in the last few years has RC taken away these relationships, to the point where Bo's primary sympathy when he learned his niece had been raped was for her rapist.

This lack of a basic tie, one which had lasted through many different production and writing teams, was why a lot of the emotion in the finale just felt canned to me. I did enjoy some moments with Matthew, and when Jessica learned she was Clint's biological daughter, but everything just felt small.

I think RC or someone felt they needed to remind everyone that Bo's true relationships were with people like David or Rex. This pick and choose type of writing is the antithesis of soap, IMO.

Edited January 19, 201213 yr by CarlD2

OK I haven't made my way through the massive finale thread yet, but in all the soap rags Ilene goes on about how in the finale Roxy goes to New York and talks to FV and RC about Fraternity Row--was this a cut scene when the PP deal fell through? I'm assuming it was (I did wonder why Roxy was in the house for the TV show, then disappeared, then rushed back from nowhere when the baby was born).

I'd forgotten about this. I think they made the right decision cutting the scenes. I wonder what replaced that.

To me, wondering why there was no mention of any ties between Bo/Nora and Clint/Viki/Jessica/Natalie isn't just wondering about a continuity blunder, as these characters had close relationships for decades. Only in the last few years has RC taken away these relationships, to the point where Bo's primary sympathy when he learned his niece had been raped was for her rapist.

OK I was in agreement until your last comment--I can't think of which rapist (of Jessica's several) Bo was sympathetic to...

I'd forgotten about this. I think they made the right decision cutting the scenes. I wonder what replaced that.

Yeah it sounds like it was decided to cut very last minute, but I agree it's obviously smart that they did.

OK I was in agreement until your last comment--I can't think of which rapist (of Jessica's several) Bo was sympathetic to...

Ford. Once he found out about Ford and Jessica they had to include some scene where he felt sorry for Ford.

Oh when Clint beat him up? that's all I remember.

To me OLTL gets less of a grade because of lack of flashbacks the last few weeks. It wouldn't have killed them to done more