Members dragonflies Posted March 20, 2011 Members Share Posted March 20, 2011 When a kid dies, they're still your kid and losing that kid connects, Liz, Lucky and Jason for life. Guza is an idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr. Vixen Posted March 20, 2011 Members Share Posted March 20, 2011 I see what you're saying remos...But I still will always think Liz/Jason have a bond for life. Especially now that Jake is dying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members remos Posted March 20, 2011 Members Share Posted March 20, 2011 Guza is calculating - not an idiot. Attention spans of current viewers are short at best. It's only those of us who have long memories or feel passionate enough about characters that hold on. Does baby Lila connect Sam and Sonny…… no There are many who have no interest in Liason and have always felt Jake was a mistake. Not everyone supported the S.o.S nor it's outcome. This is a soap opera character, not real life. Jake might never be forgotten but his significance will diminish quickly once Sam and Jason move on with their own family, and after Aiden is known to be Lucky's son. That's what Guza is counting on and I truly don't believe it a bad gamble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr. Vixen Posted March 20, 2011 Members Share Posted March 20, 2011 I think Baby Lila connects Sonny/Sam. Maybe not all the time. Maybe it's not mentioned. But that connection is there, and always will be. They'll always have a semi-relationship, in which they will both remember the loss of their child. And though they're not close anymore, they did share a child that still meant a lot to Sam, and probably Sonny. I think the difference is that Jake was alive. He wasn't stillborn, but instead nearly 3 years old. And the difference is that Liz started to raise him and knew him in and out. He had likes, dislikes, things that hurt him, and made him happy. And Jason knew him somewhat. I think it's a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members quartermainefan Posted March 20, 2011 Members Share Posted March 20, 2011 What is the deal with Drake Hogestyn??? That interests more than anything else on that cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members remos Posted March 20, 2011 Members Share Posted March 20, 2011 I'm not saying he will be forgotten any more than Baby Lila, HOWEVER it's not going to be some big Liason connection as some have hypothesized. This is the last nail in the Liason coffin. While he won't be forgotten, his death is certainly not going to bring another bonding between Jason and Liz. Jake's death in essence severs their ties in a very tangible way and cleans up a mess started four summers ago. I'm not saying this as a mother - if I was sharing my mother's perspective on this one it would be completely different. I'm saying this as a writer. Jake's death ties the last bow on an awkward and difficult parcel. Now Jason and Liz will go their merry ways without a physical connection popping up later in life demanding answers and mutual acknowledgement. Sucks that it's yet another Q that's biting the dust, but that can't be helped in the bid to make Sam alone the person in Jason's life to give him children and be his family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted March 20, 2011 Members Share Posted March 20, 2011 IA with Remos. I think this will sever Jason and Liz. After this story has run its course, I dont see them all that connected even more and there probably wont be any close moments between them till next year on the annniversary of the death. Speaking of which , with Jake's accident, Guza continues his goal to kill off yet another Quartermaine. He's completely decimated this family I have a question. Since this was originally meant to be RH's exit storyline, what will happen to Liz? Will she leave the show and come back a few weeks later or will there be no onscreen exit? Basically will be see any onscreen implications of the offscrean drama? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr. Vixen Posted March 20, 2011 Members Share Posted March 20, 2011 I don't think so Cheap. From what I read, Liz was initially going to go crazy and land permenantly in Shady Brooke. Now with BH staying, I have heard some rumors that Liz could still lose it and go to Shady Brooke, but that it will be much more temporary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted March 20, 2011 Members Share Posted March 20, 2011 Did she go to Shadybrooke before or was that Roselawn? I swear GH has the most mental institutions of any soap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr. Vixen Posted March 21, 2011 Members Share Posted March 21, 2011 She went to Shady Brooke. I can't remember anybody going to Rose Lawn since Carly, but I could be wrong. Also, what ever happened to Ferncliffe? Didn't that used to be a mential institution on GH? I get them all confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted March 21, 2011 Members Share Posted March 21, 2011 Ferncliff is for the criminally insane. Shadybrooke is for the normal crazies. Roselawn is for the ones that have money...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr. Vixen Posted March 21, 2011 Members Share Posted March 21, 2011 Haha that's it! They haven't mentioned Ferncliff in YEARS. THe last time I remember was when Carly was "wrongly" put there...I don't remember the storyline, I just remember there was an evil nurse named Bunny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SeanM Posted March 21, 2011 Members Share Posted March 21, 2011 Forrest Hills was another one, Heather Webber lived there. That was a great one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted March 21, 2011 Members Share Posted March 21, 2011 On Ryan's Hope many years ago, Jill and Frank had a baby boy, Edmund, but they had to keep quiet about this because of Frank's political career (he had been married at the time of the conception). For a while Jill thought another man, Seneca, was the child's father, and even after she found out otherwise, she married him, and to all but Frank, Jill, Seneca, and Frank's family, Edmund was his biological son. Edmund was killed in an explosion before he was two years old, and the painful grieving process ended up reuniting Jill and Frank and also destroying Seneca (he always wanted a child of his own after this and went to desperate lengths at times). I don't care about anyone in Liz/Lucky/Jason but I would have been interested in this type of story, possibly. Instead, the show decided Lucky was too good for Jake when the golden boy returned, and they also felt Jason was too good to be Jake's father, so the child had to be killed off as some grotesque ode to Jason's woe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted March 21, 2011 Members Share Posted March 21, 2011 Ewwwww, dont want Jason and Liz to ever reunite, especially not in the aftermath of this kid's death Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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