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LOL...I think my favorite cliffhanger was the Wolfbridge Group followed closely by Val and the twins although that one still pisses me off the way it ended the cliffhanger....lol....oh and also loved the Peter death cliffhanger with Abby and Olivia...although again....I hated the way it ended.....lol.....meaning too much was done at the end that could have been saved for the next season...ugh...lol...The Ciji one was good too..I dont recall if that was the actual cliffhanger when her body washed up or was it one of the last episodes...damn Warner not releasing these dvds to find out....lol....floved Chip Roberrs character...the Karen paintballers one was hilarious...I thought it was one of the worse cliffhangers then as you say we had those I dont even remember...lol

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Oh with Angela looking out at Falcon Crest and taking about all the visitors and family members that had passed through FC. Yes, that was a nice ending with not much ratings success either unfortunately...

Dynasty...lol.....Alexis and Dex falling off a balcony....lol...looked so fake...and Blake being shot. Even Dynasty which ended 2 years before Dallas couldnt muster ratings success one more time on its last show.

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I have to really disagree. During the Jock years, the show "only" had one brilliant season (season 3 DVD, which ended with J.R.'s shooting). Jock's death prompted DALLAS' next two brilliant seasons, Seasons 6 and 7. Seven especially was as KNOTSian as DALLAS ever got. Yes, the dynamic Jock brought to the show was missed but I find it very unfair to say that Jock's death caused the show to be any less good. Instead, it brought us what would probably be the show's best business storyline.

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That's the general complaint David Paulsen had about DYNASTY, too. As he explained in an interview (for knotslanding.net?), DYNASTY would have these tremendous cliffhangers; unlike DALLAS, though, DYNASTY's writers never paid them off. I mean, the insurgents storm into the chapel, shoot everyone there, but only two minor characters ended up dead while everyone else escaped with flesh wounds? Say what?

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You know what all that says to me? Even though I have zero faith in TNT's abilities to mount a successful KNOTS continuation/reboot, the fact that KNOTS always maintained a stable and loyal, if not overwhelmingly large, audience proves KNOTS 2.0 could work now in cable, where the expectations are lower. I mean, for God's sake, they're calling DALLAS 2.0 a "victory" with 6 million people, which has to be a fraction of what the audience was even at the start of the original series.

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LOL...and Lady Ashley was one of them and only because she was taking pictures during the whole thing...lol...I still laugh at that to this day....the other one who died was Luke Fuller..figured it would be him.....after that what could Dynasty do to top themselves?? Nothing...the cliffhanger with Blake strangling Alexis was just absurd. The La Mirage fire was tame compared to the massacre

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This is 2012...not the 80s...no show would get those kind of numbers now....lol

What was season 7 all about?? See i dont even recall but Dallas I do...lol..and I am too lazy to look it up...lol..damn Warner for not releasing these Knots DVDs yet....lol

Oh and again what dvds have been released?? Dallas the whole series and Dynasty almost all of it?? Where is Knots and FC?? Still stuck on season 2....lol

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I'm currently re-watching Knots and season 7 was MUCH better than given credit for and better than season 6 IMO. Yes it was more masculine, but the female characters were great. It was a very well plotted season. It's when Val got her babies back, Jill Bennett and Peter Hollister arrived and you had Gary blowing up Empire Valley. You also had the courtship of Laura and Greg, which was the best it was written in terms of Laura's perspective.

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Far be it from me to poo-pooh anyone's love for all things FALCON CREST, but I always felt as if that series suffered a serious case of schizophrenia. It never could decide whether to be another DALLAS or another DYNASTY -- and because most of the writers had come from Earl Hamner's previous series, "The Waltons," my theory is that they never were comfortable going in either direction. The only time FC appeared to know what it was doing was when Jeff Freilich ran the show; even then, though, his "vision" for FC (as a campy precursor to high-concept mystery-driven shows such as "Twin Peaks") had about as little to do with the show's original concept (namely, two factions within the same family fighting for dominance in California's wine country) as humanly possible.

But yeah, it's a miracle how FALCON CREST's series finale turned out as decent as it did, given the show's utterly tasteless final season.

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Which is the strangest comment to me since I actually cannot tell the difference between that season and everything before or after it. I just appreciate the fact that KNOTS' characters always had one, clear through-line and never changed just for the sake of story.

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I blame that on the almost concerted effort that successive writing and production teams made in pissing away FC's capital and general goodwill with its audience. It's one thing when DALLAS' mistakes in its later seasons cause viewers to turn away; as the ratings for their finale proved, DALLAS' fans never stopped loving DALLAS just because they couldn't watch it anymore. Conversely, FC fans appear to have felt cheated and robbed by their show in ways that were both immeasurable and deep.

In a way, it's like when a daytime soap goes off the air for good. Some fans return because they know it's "the end," and they need the sense of closure. Most, though, have this attitude of, "Screw 'em, after what those bastards did to me? They can have their big finish without me!".

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