Maura does look like she is in her 40s. Most importantly, she will be the best acting partner that Peter Bergmann has had since Debi Morgan. She and Peter will do outstanding work despite the crappy writing.

Maura is a great actress who has spent years turning dross into gold but this regime is one where even actors I generally think do a great job no matter what, like Stephen Nichols, are left completely defeated.

Perhaps Maura will be different since she has actually worked with Hogan, but who knows. All I know is that talent doesn't matter when a show is this poorly put together.

[!@#$%^&*] You Y&R.

Maura West is a horrible recast for Diane Jenkins. Poor Alex Donnelly, screwed at every turn by those bastards.

What is Alex Donnelley doing these days?

Another WTF decision.

If Maura West needs to be a recast (what happened to being original???), she would have made a better Heather Stevens and solved at least one problem at Y&R...

As an actress, Eden Riegel can't even lick the bottom of Maura's shoes.

Agreed.

Any hype about Eden Riegel joining Y&R was feeding off the bad judgment and delusion of her fans.

And this Maura stuff isn't?

I agree that Maura's a talented actress but Stephen Nichols is every bit the actor she is & he can't make his DOA character work.

There's only so much talent can do for actor.

However, Peter then used his own talent to interpret Jack and made the character his own.

Not really.

Bergman has been miscast since Day 1 & has only done so well cause Bill retconned the character SO much to suit him.

Bergman has his fans but

Maura will be the most talented actress to play Diane

Don't get ahead of yourself.

and the best actress on Y&R

I love Maura but that's hyperbole.

Jess Walton? Tricia Cast? Eileen Davidson? Jeanne Cooper?

There are several talented actresses on Y&R already.

Maura will be just one more.

Her talent will keep her afloat for awhile (6 months to a year) after that it's up to Maria to give her worthy material & given the state of Maria's previous casting/recasting stunts things don't bode well for Maura beyond the initial hype period.

Unlike less talented actors, she will be able to give Y&R sub-standard writing subtext and make her scenes with Jack work.

Stacy Haiduk's talented & got a ton of critical love yet she's gone.

To be fair most of it had to do with bad writing but it's a perfect example of a great talent not being able to make horrible writing work.

would have made a better Heather Stevens

Or Grace.

Or Grace.

Haven't though about that 'cause THE SLUT © will always be Jennifer Gareis for me, but Maura would indeed make a fierce Grace and a dynamic character.

THE SLUT © will always be Jennifer Gareis for me

And Josie for me.

Maura would indeed make a fierce Grace and a dynamic character.

Yes she would.

It would be an age appropriate, she would still interact with all the same people (even more actually) & she's twice the actress Gareis will ever be.

Or Grace.

I thought about that as she's about the age, but really Grace is not needed. I cant see what purpose she would serve being back at this point.

Grace is definitely needed as is Diane.

It doesn't matter though cause Maria/Hogan/Hamner/Rauch will ruin any character they can.

Hence

Chance's death

Grace is definitely needed as is Diane.

It doesn't matter though cause Maria/Hogan/Hamner/Rauch will ruin any character they can.

Hence

Chance's death

Grace is needed for what? Exactly what on the canvas dictates needin her around. She'd have worked in Skye's current role, but they missed an oppurtunity there, creating a new character instead. With that said, I really dont see why she is a necessity at this time

Grace is needed for what?

Her age group is in desperate need of characters.

It's one of the MAIN reasons why Y&R's characters are being constantly retconned & written WAY OOC.

Exactly what on the canvas dictates needin her around.

That could be said of everyone.

Better a character with a ton of history & connections than a plot device like Ryder or psycho like Kevin.

Hell Jeff & Gloria are still on the show & all of the sudden characters need something on canvas to "dictate" them being needed around?

That's the problem with Y&R now.

Horribly warping characters cause "the canvas dictates" it.

She'd have worked in Skye's current role

No.

She wouldn't.

Skye works fine in Skye's role.

Too bad Y&R is extremely sexist & won't use the character beyond beind a plot device to push agendas.

With that said, I really dont see why she is a necessity at this time

Translation: "I don't know the character so I'll argue for more plot driven story & useless characters than against it"

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The problem with Y&R of today is you don't "need" anyone, except for the show's favorites, like Victor and Chompers. Even people who are given a lot of story, like Sharon, could vanish tomorrow and no one would notice, because she's so utterly generic and stupid these days.

Her age group is in desperate need of characters.

It's one of the MAIN reasons why Y&R's characters are being constantly retconned & written WAY OOC.

so randomly pull one out just because?

That could be said of everyone.

Better a character with a ton of history & connections than a plot device like Ryder or psycho like Kevin.

Hell Jeff & Gloria are still on the show & all of the sudden characters need something on canvas to "dictate" them being needed around?

That's the problem with Y&R now.

Horribly warping characters cause "the canvas dictates" it.

What is the tons of connnections that Grace has? Aside from Sharon and Nick, how is she so pivotal to the history of the other charaters on the show? She was a very limited character who had a decent run, but they exhausted her potential, hence why she left. They overdid the triangle with Nick and Sharon to death and if she came on, she'd most likely slip into Giggly Heffa's place for more of the same crap.

No.

She wouldn't.

Skye works fine in Skye's role.

Too bad Y&R is extremely sexist & won't use the character beyond beind a plot device to push agendas.

Skye is pretty generic and could have easily been replaced with Grace in the sme position. Plus she has a deep history with Sharon which could have been played up. As of now, Skye doesnt really have a valid reason for hating Sharon, other than the fact that Adam is obsessed with her. Grace would have reasons for that beyond simply this man.

Translation: "I don't know the character so I'll argue for more plot driven story & useless characters than against it"

and when did I clamor for plot driven stories and useless characters?

so randomly pull one out just because?

It's not random.

What is the tons of connnections that Grace has?

Again if you knew the character and/or the show you would know.

how is she so pivotal to the history of the other charaters on the show?

Really?

You're attempting to argue "pivotal to the show" with CANE around? GLORIA? JEFF?

REALLY?

hence why she left.

And why she came back.

Several times.

They overdid the triangle with Nick and Sharon to death

Who said anything about redoing that triangle?

and if she came on, she'd most likely slip into Giggly Heffa's place for more of the same crap.

How is that worse than throwing whatever new White ingenue at Daniel in a desperate attempt to make Graz happen?

How is that worse than throwing whatever barely famous black sitcom/reality star at Kristoff & Malcolm in an attempt to replicate Dru & spite Victoria?

How is that worse than throwing whatever over the hill soap/primetime leading men at Eileen/MTS/Jess in a desperate attempt to make afterthought pairings happen?

How is that worse than throwing whatever faux "bad girl" at Rikaart's useless ass in a desperate attempt to further whitewash him & make HIM happen?

Grace is an established character with history & connections who doesn't need characters or the canvas to be warped to accomodate her.

and could have easily been replaced with Grace in the sme position.

No she couldn't have.

Now THAT would've been OOC.

As of now, Skye doesnt really have a valid reason for hating Sharon, other than the fact that Adam is obsessed with her.

Which is enough since the characters been retconned tremendously which isn't too upsetting since she won't be used as anything beyond a plot device to prop N/S/A.

and when did I clamor for plot driven stories and useless characters?

Any time you're arguing against a character that has a ton of history, ties & CURRENT connections to the canvas as "dictated by the canvas"?

You're clamoring for plot driven stories & useless characters.

Especially when characters like CANE, JEFF, JANA, CHLOE, GLORIA, KEVIN, SKYE, SOPHIA, TUCKER, MURPHY are ON the canvas.

The problem with Y&R of today is you don't "need" anyone, except for the show's favorites, like Victor and Chompers. Even people who are given a lot of story, like Sharon, could vanish tomorrow and no one would notice, because she's so utterly generic and stupid these days.

Exactly.

It's not random.

Considering no one's talked about Grace in forever, it kinda is. They've all moved on past her

Again if you knew the character and/or the show you would know.

Haha, thanks for proving my point, bc you couldnt even answer the question posed

Really?

You're attempting to argue "pivotal to the show" with CANE around? GLORIA? JEFF?

REALLY?

Putting words in my mouth. We're talkling about Grace here, not Cane, Gloria or Jeff

And why she came back.

Several times.

and correct me if Im wrong, all of which are connected to Sharon and being in some type of triangle with her

Who said anything about redoing that triangle?

You give the current writing staff too much credit if you honestly expect they wouldnt go there

How is that worse than throwing whatever new White ingenue at Daniel in a desperate attempt to make Graz happen?

How is that worse than throwing whatever barely famous black sitcom/reality star at Kristoff & Malcolm in an attempt to replicate Dru & spite Victoria?

How is that worse than throwing whatever over the hill soap/primetime leading men at Eileen/MTS/Jess in a desperate attempt to make afterthought pairings happen?

How is that worse than throwing whatever faux "bad girl" at Rikaart's useless ass in a desperate attempt to further whitewash him & make HIM happen?

Grace is an established character with history & connections who doesn't need characters or the canvas to be warped to accomodate her.

Again what are her vast connections outside of Nick and Sharon?

No she couldn't have.

Now THAT would've been OOC.

OOC? Grace hooking up with a man Sharon's slept with and fighting with her over it, seems pretty much in her character. Lord knows, she's never done that before

Which is enough since the characters been retconned tremendously which isn't too upsetting since she won't be used as anything beyond a plot device to prop N/S/A.

she's another newbie with little to no ties to the history of the show. She's no different than the other examples you brought up to bash. Since you brought him up, she has less history and connections than Kevin.

Any time you're arguing against a character that has a ton of history, ties & CURRENT connections to the canvas as "dictated by the canvas"?

You're clamoring for plot driven stories & useless characters.

Especially when characters like CANE, JEFF, JANA, CHLOE, GLORIA, KEVIN, SKYE, SOPHIA, TUCKER, MURPHY are ON the canvas.

Again putting words in my mouth. Why dont you do us both a favor and stick to what I actually write

Considering no one's talked about Grace in forever, it kinda is.

Not really.

Considering being "talked about" didn't keep Maria from using DINA effortlessly at Katherine's funeral or Nina, Olivia & Traci the past couple of years.

They've all moved on past her

Which explains why Gloria is still in TOWN. Married. Again. And Rich. With a new business.

Haha, thanks for proving my point

What point?

You don't know what you're talking about.

This is ABC where characters have to randomly be referenced before they're utilized.

bc you couldnt even answer the question posed

Again.

If you KNEW the show and/or the character you would already know.

Nice reach though.

Putting words in my mouth.

Nope.

You're the one arguing against using established characters from Y&R's history (something Maria has done with some success) without addressing useless characters that are currently on the canvas that have much less connections & history.

all of which are connected to Sharon and being in some type of triangle with her

Actually no.

Connected to Sharon yes.

Triangle with Sharon no.

And Grace had a life OUTSIDE of Sharon.

Again if you knew the character and/or the show you would know that.

Again what are her vast connections outside of Nick and Sharon?

Victoria, Nikki, Victor, Jack, Ashley, Jill, Cricket, Paul, Michael & Giggly Heffa.

Grace hooking up with a man Sharon's slept with and fighting with her over it, seems pretty much in her character.

No.

It doesn't.

Not the least of which is that the man in question STOLE Sharon's child.

Secondly outside of Nick Grace never slept with any of Sharon's men.

she's another newbie with little to no ties to the history of the show.

Again.

Since when do "ties" & "connections" matter all of the sudden?

By your logic CANE a character who is currently ON the canvas has to have established characters horribly warped & history retconned/twisted to keep his ass on the show is a "viable" character when established characters that can easily be brought back (as Maria has done) are "not talked about"/"been moved past".

she has less history and connections than Kevin.

Another character that Y&R has warped the show & ruined established characters to keep.

Again putting words in my mouth.

Impossible.

You'd have to actually know what you were talking about first.

Why dont you do us both a favor and stick to what I actually write

Eh no.

Have SOME idea of what you're attempting to discuss before you lamely attempt to flame dear.

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