ATWT Actress Joins Y&R

[DRW50]

Maura is a great actress who has spent years turning dross into gold but this regime is one where even actors I generally think do a great job no matter what, like Stephen Nichols, are left completely defeated.

Perhaps Maura will be different since she has actually worked with Hogan, but who knows. All I know is that talent doesn't matter when a show is this poorly put together.

[Sylph]

What is Alex Donnelley doing these days?

[sheilaforever]

Another WTF decision.

If Maura West needs to be a recast (what happened to being original???), she would have made a better Heather Stevens and solved at least one problem at Y&R...

[DeeeDee]

Agreed.

And this Maura stuff isn't?

I agree that Maura's a talented actress but Stephen Nichols is every bit the actor she is & he can't make his DOA character work.

There's only so much talent can do for actor.

Not really.

Bergman has been miscast since Day 1 & has only done so well cause Bill retconned the character SO much to suit him.

Bergman has his fans but

Don't get ahead of yourself.

I love Maura but that's hyperbole.

Jess Walton? Tricia Cast? Eileen Davidson? Jeanne Cooper?

There are several talented actresses on Y&R already.

Maura will be just one more.

Her talent will keep her afloat for awhile (6 months to a year) after that it's up to Maria to give her worthy material & given the state of Maria's previous casting/recasting stunts things don't bode well for Maura beyond the initial hype period.

Stacy Haiduk's talented & got a ton of critical love yet she's gone.

To be fair most of it had to do with bad writing but it's a perfect example of a great talent not being able to make horrible writing work.

Or Grace.

[sheilaforever]

Haven't though about that 'cause THE SLUT © will always be Jennifer Gareis for me, but Maura would indeed make a fierce Grace and a dynamic character.

[DeeeDee]

And Josie for me.

Yes she would.

It would be an age appropriate, she would still interact with all the same people (even more actually) & she's twice the actress Gareis will ever be.

[Cheap21]

I thought about that as she's about the age, but really Grace is not needed. I cant see what purpose she would serve being back at this point.

[DeeeDee]

Grace is definitely needed as is Diane.

It doesn't matter though cause Maria/Hogan/Hamner/Rauch will ruin any character they can.

Hence

[Cheap21]

Grace is needed for what? Exactly what on the canvas dictates needin her around. She'd have worked in Skye's current role, but they missed an oppurtunity there, creating a new character instead. With that said, I really dont see why she is a necessity at this time

[DeeeDee]

Her age group is in desperate need of characters.

It's one of the MAIN reasons why Y&R's characters are being constantly retconned & written WAY OOC.

That could be said of everyone.

Better a character with a ton of history & connections than a plot device like Ryder or psycho like Kevin.

Hell Jeff & Gloria are still on the show & all of the sudden characters need something on canvas to "dictate" them being needed around?

That's the problem with Y&R now.

Horribly warping characters cause "the canvas dictates" it.

No.

She wouldn't.

Skye works fine in Skye's role.

Too bad Y&R is extremely sexist & won't use the character beyond beind a plot device to push agendas.

Translation: "I don't know the character so I'll argue for more plot driven story & useless characters than against it"

[DRW50]

The problem with Y&R of today is you don't "need" anyone, except for the show's favorites, like Victor and Chompers. Even people who are given a lot of story, like Sharon, could vanish tomorrow and no one would notice, because she's so utterly generic and stupid these days.

[Cheap21]

so randomly pull one out just because?

What is the tons of connnections that Grace has? Aside from Sharon and Nick, how is she so pivotal to the history of the other charaters on the show? She was a very limited character who had a decent run, but they exhausted her potential, hence why she left. They overdid the triangle with Nick and Sharon to death and if she came on, she'd most likely slip into Giggly Heffa's place for more of the same crap.

Skye is pretty generic and could have easily been replaced with Grace in the sme position. Plus she has a deep history with Sharon which could have been played up. As of now, Skye doesnt really have a valid reason for hating Sharon, other than the fact that Adam is obsessed with her. Grace would have reasons for that beyond simply this man.

and when did I clamor for plot driven stories and useless characters?

[DeeeDee]

It's not random.

Again if you knew the character and/or the show you would know.

Really?

You're attempting to argue "pivotal to the show" with CANE around? GLORIA? JEFF?

REALLY?

And why she came back.

Several times.

Who said anything about redoing that triangle?

How is that worse than throwing whatever new White ingenue at Daniel in a desperate attempt to make Graz happen?

How is that worse than throwing whatever barely famous black sitcom/reality star at Kristoff & Malcolm in an attempt to replicate Dru & spite Victoria?

How is that worse than throwing whatever over the hill soap/primetime leading men at Eileen/MTS/Jess in a desperate attempt to make afterthought pairings happen?

How is that worse than throwing whatever faux "bad girl" at Rikaart's useless ass in a desperate attempt to further whitewash him & make HIM happen?

Grace is an established character with history & connections who doesn't need characters or the canvas to be warped to accomodate her.

No she couldn't have.

Now THAT would've been OOC.

Which is enough since the characters been retconned tremendously which isn't too upsetting since she won't be used as anything beyond a plot device to prop N/S/A.

Any time you're arguing against a character that has a ton of history, ties & CURRENT connections to the canvas as "dictated by the canvas"?

You're clamoring for plot driven stories & useless characters.

Especially when characters like CANE, JEFF, JANA, CHLOE, GLORIA, KEVIN, SKYE, SOPHIA, TUCKER, MURPHY are ON the canvas.

Exactly.

[Cheap21]

Considering no one's talked about Grace in forever, it kinda is. They've all moved on past her

Haha, thanks for proving my point, bc you couldnt even answer the question posed

Putting words in my mouth. We're talkling about Grace here, not Cane, Gloria or Jeff

and correct me if Im wrong, all of which are connected to Sharon and being in some type of triangle with her

You give the current writing staff too much credit if you honestly expect they wouldnt go there

Again what are her vast connections outside of Nick and Sharon?

OOC? Grace hooking up with a man Sharon's slept with and fighting with her over it, seems pretty much in her character. Lord knows, she's never done that before

she's another newbie with little to no ties to the history of the show. She's no different than the other examples you brought up to bash. Since you brought him up, she has less history and connections than Kevin.

Again putting words in my mouth. Why dont you do us both a favor and stick to what I actually write

[DeeeDee]

Considering no one's talked about Grace in forever, it kinda is.

Not really.

Considering being "talked about" didn't keep Maria from using DINA effortlessly at Katherine's funeral or Nina, Olivia & Traci the past couple of years.

They've all moved on past her

Which explains why Gloria is still in TOWN. Married. Again. And Rich. With a new business.

What point?

You don't know what you're talking about.

This is ABC where characters have to randomly be referenced before they're utilized.

Again.

If you KNEW the show and/or the character you would already know.

Nice reach though.

Nope.

You're the one arguing against using established characters from Y&R's history (something Maria has done with some success) without addressing useless characters that are currently on the canvas that have much less connections & history.

Actually no.

Connected to Sharon yes.

Triangle with Sharon no.

And Grace had a life OUTSIDE of Sharon.

Again if you knew the character and/or the show you would know that.

Victoria, Nikki, Victor, Jack, Ashley, Jill, Cricket, Paul, Michael & Giggly Heffa.

No.

It doesn't.

Not the least of which is that the man in question STOLE Sharon's child.

Secondly outside of Nick Grace never slept with any of Sharon's men.

Again.

Since when do "ties" & "connections" matter all of the sudden?

By your logic CANE a character who is currently ON the canvas has to have established characters horribly warped & history retconned/twisted to keep his ass on the show is a "viable" character when established characters that can easily be brought back (as Maria has done) are "not talked about"/"been moved past".

Another character that Y&R has warped the show & ruined established characters to keep.

Impossible.

You'd have to actually know what you were talking about first.

Eh no.

Have SOME idea of what you're attempting to discuss before you lamely attempt to flame dear.