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Ford's decision to discontinue the Mercury brand (which I'm surprised that nobody here has yet discussed) made me think that it would be a good time to start a whole thread on the topic of cars. And while there are many more sub-topics that I would like to discuss later, I am going to devote the first post on this thread just to my reaction on Mercury's demise.

Personally, I feel that the biggest surprise in this piece of news was not that Mercury is "being cancelled," but that it lasted as long as it did. It really is remarkable that Mercury outlasted Oldsmobile and Pontiac, given that the latter two brands were far more popular at their zeniths than Mercury ever was. (Of course, Mercury outlasted Plymouth as well, and it's certainly possible that Plymouth was also more popular at its zenith than Mercury was.) I'm guessing the main reason why Mercury wasn't discontinued sooner was because Lincoln-Mercury dealers wanted the brand kept alive so that less expensive cars could be displayed in their showrooms. (Lincoln itself is currently not a strong brand; I'll talk more about this later.)

(Interestingly, if one wants to compare this situation with what is happening in the world of soaps, the surprise over Mercury outlasting Pontiac and Oldsmobile is like OLTL outlasting ATWT and GL, given that the latter two soaps were more popular at their zeniths than OLTL was. Aside from the fact that OLTL is network owned, a big reason why OLTL wasn't cancelled sooner than the P&G soaps was because a cancellation will cause a gap in ABC's soap lineup that will only be resolved by moving the timeslot of either AMC or GH.)

Sadly, Mercury's peak actually came in the 1950's, when James Dean drove a flashy 1949 Mercury Eight in "Rebel Without A Cause." Beginning in the 1960's, little was done to differentiate Mercury from the Ford brand. However, there were still some bright spots such as the Cougar, which was introduced in 1967 as a twin of the Ford Mustang but developed a loyal following in its own right. Undoubtedly, the most excitement Mercury saw in recent decades was the buzz and popularity that resulted from the 1986 Sable, which--along with its Ford Taurus twin--revolutionized the entire auto industry.

According to auto industry experts, discontinuing Mercury was the easy part for Ford. The hard part is building up the Lincoln brand, since Lincoln sales pale in comparison to those of Cadillac, Lexus, BMW, and Mercedes Benz. Simply put, the public perception is that Lincoln is not on par with those other luxury brands. (To illustrate this point, current Ford CEO Alan Mulally actually drove a Lexus--and not a Lincoln--prior to becoming CEO of Ford.) Ford has done a great job reviving the Ford brand, so it will be interesting to see if they can help Lincoln in the coming years. In the meantime, because Lincoln is a weak brand, there won't be any stand-alone Lincoln dealers; all current Lincoln-Mercury dealers will either become Ford-Lincoln dealers or go out of business.

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Actually, I did make a joke about Mercury's demise in a thread discussing OLTL's Ford brothers (i.e., wishing their last name was Mercury so they'd be discontinued :P ). In the mid '80s we had a Cougar while my uncle had a Thunderbird, both the same color, and another aunt and uncle bought a Cougar for her and a Thunderbird for him in '89. I always liked the concept of Mercs being jazzed up Fords. Of course therein lies a problem, churning out rebadged twins when one could easily slap a luxury package on a Ford model, or simply offer certain models as Ford or Mercury only. For instance, let Ford have the Taurus and drop the Sable, have Ford drop the Crown Vic and let Mercury have the Grand Marquis. Mercs have always had sleeker styling cues and in their heyday they weren't merely Ford clones but they went the way of Chrysler in the '80s and it wasn't too long ago that Chyrsler kinda learned it's lesson by dropping a fleet of clones badged Plymouth. I'll miss Mercury, they certainly weren't marketed as a young person's automobile but I still checked out their site every now and then hoping to catch a concept of new and improved Cougar that would rival an Infiniti G30. It was terribly gimmicky, but I actually liked the Marauder (souped up Grand Marquis) that lasted but a year a few years back. But I guess it makes sense to get rid of the entry-level luxury cars and focus on Lincoln where models like the MKS and MKZ make a Milan or Sable seem superfluous. Godspeed Mercury. :(

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SFK, thanks so much for sharing your memories of the Mercury brand. Truth be told, I had forgotten (prior to reading your post) that the Cougar was a twin of the Thunderbird for most of its run, even though (as I mentioned earlier) it began life as a Mustang twin. Like you, I am saddened by Mercury's demise, and I definately believe that Ford could have put a lot more effort into marketing the brand.

Switching the topic somewhat, I wanted to mention I much I perfer the cars of yesteryear over today (as least in terms of exterior design). I was getting really nostalgic for 80's cars after watching these commercials on YouTube:

1985 Ford Full-Line Commercial (Note that the caption below stating that this commercial is promoting Ford's 1984 line-up is incorrect.):

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1986 Ford Taurus Commercial #1 (a car, IMO, whose design was 25 years ahead of its time):

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1986 Ford Taurus Commercial #2:

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1986 Ford Taurus Commercial #3:

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1993 Ford Explorer Commercial featuring Susan Lucci:

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1985 Buick Somerset Commercial: (According to somebody who posted at YouTube, the stunning blonde who first appears at about the 15 second mark is Taylor Miller, who played AMC's Nina Cortlandt.)

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1986 Buick Century Commercial: (The 1982-96 Buick Century happens to be my all-time favorite car. Also, note that the below caption--which states this advertisement applies to the 1985 Century--is wrong.)

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1985 Oldsmobile Cutlass Ciera Commercial: (The Cutlass Ciera was a twin of the Century.)

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1984 Chevrolet Cavalier Commercial:

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Max, you're going to make my head explode :lol: a million memories are rushing back. I can think of a relative or family friend who drove all of the cars above.

When I was in the 5th grade one of my best friends came to school all excited one day because his dad had just bought a snazzy new Taurus SHO (with leather!). My girlfriend and I went to her friends' wedding about two years ago and we rented a brand new jet black Taurus with tan leather and I LOVED it! I can only imagine what its Sable counterpart would have been like. It was a "heavy" car, it handled a lot like my mom's old Audi. I'm not really a big car person at all because I have issues with parking :P but I really enjoyed driving that thing and hated taking it back.

I loved all of those '80s cars, my favorites were the "personal coupes" though which were very popular in my family... the Cougars, the Thunderbirds, the Toronados, the Rivieras, the Mark VIIs, the Cutlass Supremes, the Grand Prixes, the Monte Carlos, the Coupe de Villes, the El Dorados, the Cordobas, the Regals, the Somersets, you get the picture. :lol: Of ocurse coupes were MUCH bigger and MUCH more popular back then. They've been all but cut by most companies and now most two-doors have that teeny 2+2 seat configuration. Back in the day, three could comfortably fit in the back of a coupe. Granted, you had to have the strength to push up that heavy ass seat to get back there. :lol:

That sure does look like Taylor Miller. Susan Lucci drove an Explorer, obviously her bonus from doing those commercials. The Hubers made the news a couple of years back when their Mercedes SL broke down and they were stranded on the side of the highway. I actually went to the Emmys in '99 (when Susan won) and I noticed a gorgeous cream Bentley parked outside the Garden. People magazine did a cover story on Lucci after she won and there was a pic in the article of her and Helmut in the back seat of that Bentley. I thought that was cool. ^_^

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I apologize for going off on my soapbox, but I really hate it when celebrity endorsers don't use the products they sell. Unless she had terminated her relationship with Ford by 1999 (which is certainly possible), Susan Lucci definately should have been driven to the Emmys in a Lincoln, not a Bentley. (I still feel that even if she was no longer on Ford's payroll at that time, the morally right thing to do would have been to continue using their products, given that she had been their spokesperson for years.) Of course, Lucci is by no means alone in this type of hypocrisy: witness former Buick spokesman Tiger Woods, who was driving a Lexus when his wife came after him with a golf club.

SFK, I also mourn the virtual extinction of the personal coupe. Nowadays, if you want a coupe, your only choices are a sports car or a convertible. Honestly, I really don't know why personal coupes declined so much in popularity.

Like personal coupes, another type of car that has dwindled in popularity over the decades has been the traditional full-sized sedan. (Obviously, the reason why this is the case is because consumers are looking for more fuel efficient cars.) Aside from those belonging to the luxury nameplates, very few such sedans are on the market today: the only American-made ones I can think of are the Mercury Grand Marquis, Ford Taurus (which looks a lot more like a mid-sized sedan than a full-sized one), Chevrolet Impala (ditto what I wrote about the Taurus), Buick Lucerne, and Chrysler 300. I'm actually in the market for a new car, and am considering all of the above models. Normally, I would choose the Grand Marquis in a heartbeat, but the big negative with that car is that it comes standard with leather interior. (I'm actually one of the very few people in the world who prefers cloth over leather, not only because I think it feels more comfortable, but also because leather can get very hot in the summer.)

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I found two really great car themes from the late-1980s. Does anybody know who sang these?

This is the best of the two: "The only way to travel, is Cadillac style." (It sort of sounds like Bruce Springsteen, though I doubt it is him.)

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The above commercial featured two of Cadillac's most infamous flops: Allante and Cimarron.

And here's "The great American road belongs to Buick."

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The 1988 Regal was OK, but I preferred the design before it.

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I recall those jingles fondly. I can't even express to you how in love I was with the Allante. It was (and in many ways remains) my dream car. I also have great affection for the Buick Reatta. The Riviera is another favorite.

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The Allante was a great looking car (that had a European flair yet was still recognizable as a Cadillac), though I thought it was way overpriced. According to Wikipedia, it is believed that the Allante failed because it was FWD, which casued the car to have much less power than the RWD Mercedes-Benz SL (Allante's main competitor).

The Reatta had nortoriously low sales, far less than the 20,000 units per year estimated. I did think it was cool, though, that it came with some bonus items that assembly line cars normally don't come with:

I liked its emblem, too:

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The Riviera is such a classic, and I liked all of its incarnations except for the eighth and final generation (95-99). The sixth (79-85) and seventh (86-93) generations I thought were the best looking of the bunch. While the 79-85 Riviera was a smashing success, the 86-93 version was a huge flop, unfortunately. The downsizing of the 1986 Riviera (which is a large car by today's standards) didn't play well with buyers, as Buick sold 22,138 units that year (compared with 65,305 the year prior).

Here are commercials for these three cars:

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Being raised in an Italian family, I am very nostalgic for the big luxurious boxy sedans of yore... for whatever reason Italian immigrants were obsessed with them and as a kid it seemed to me that they were liked the car the Weasley father drove in Harry Potter (of course there was no Harry Potter at the time but it's the only reference I can think of) that they seemed even bigger on the inside than they did from the outside.

Of course, times have changed. For me a car is a way to get somewhere and a horrible investment; I will keep my current car until it dies. It is not a sexy car but it works and it's been paid off for years.

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The Javelin was absolutely stunning (and that promotional video was great to watch). It was sad that AMC collapsed to the point that it was acquired by Chrysler in 1987. The Jeep marque continues today, but AMC cars were renamed Eagle, which was a brand that totally flopped. (When AMC was still its own company, there had been a separate car model called the AMC Eagle.)

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no drugs were ever done in that car! LOL Plenty of sex, though! I'm not sure exactly what AMC's problem was. Even at their height, though... they only had about 5% of the market. And the Eagle was ahead of it's time, a 4 wheel drive passenger car and station wagon, the wagon and the Jeep Cherokee were the first SUV's, but I guess it just all came too soon for the public to embrace it. The thing I liked the most about the AMC was the flush door handles, they didn't ice up in the winter time.

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