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Doesn't erase the fact it's dated, cheap and flat. :) But you feel obliged to hype it. No wonder coming from someone who equates Jerry Goldsmith and Stravinsky. mellow.gifph34r.gif

Good thing Kylie is a grandmother whose career is either over or directed towards some nichey niche market, releasing the same bull all over again. happy.gif

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Are you particularly bored today? :P I hype it cuz I love it, full stop. I'm not the one who starts threads about artists he doesn't even like.

For the record, I said Goldsmith aped Stravinsky in his NIMH score--I never said they were on the same level or even implied as much. Anything else?

Anyway, so glad it didn't bomb :P

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So basically, all I said was true. LOL.

Shitpiece of crap album which bombed in all of its flat production and lame, washed, thin vocals. happy.gif Kylie is many things, but a vision she doesn't have. Which is why she sings trashy trash. Which I like, but not her overrated horror.

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And a great Out Magazine article... Looks like your bad review of the album, Sylph, will really destroy her :( Poor Kylie.

Kylie Minogue: Crazy for Kylie! The Australian pop star's long-overdue arrival in the U.S. with a brilliant new album proves, once again, there's more to Kylie than "The Loco-Motion." By By Noah Michelson

On a sweltering June night, deep in the cool, cavernous belly of the New York Public Library, Kylie Minogue is dressed like Cinderella on her way to the Black Party. In a white Jean Paul Gaultier gown outfitted with a harness that stretches from its leather bustier to fasten around her tiny waist, she looks out over a sea of men pushing bits of rubbery lobster around their salad plates and asks, “Can you believe I’m here in New York?” The predominantly rich, gay, and famous audience -- Marc Jacobs, Cheyenne Jackson, and Lance Bass among them -- have put out $1,000 or more to see Minogue host amfAR’s Inspiration Gala honoring Gaultier and Ricky Martin, and they titter appreciatively in response, delighted to be in on her little joke. They know exactly what the diminutive Australian singer is getting at.

Minogue has sold more than 60 million albums worldwide, was the most-played female artist of the last two decades on U.K. radio, and has received an Order of the British Empire from Queen Elizabeth II for services to music and a Chevalier de l’Ordre des Arts et Lettres insignia, one of France’s highest cultural honors. But to most Americans -- the straight ones, anyway -- she is only vaguely familiar, a name they can’t quite put with a face but with whom they feel they might have once shared a brief, bright moment years ago.

Minogue came to America in the summer of 1988 -- a baby-faced 20-year-old pop pilgrim peddling a catchy, if slightly dorky, cover of Little Eva’s 1962 hit “The Loco-Motion” -- years before Britney or Christina bobby-pinned their first pairs of mouse ears on top of their heads. She came before Fergie had inhaled her first hit of meth, before Lady Gaga was bluffin’ with her muffin (in fact, her muffin was barely out of her mother’s oven). But the considerable fame the single brought her in the U.S. dried up faster than you can sing “chug-a chug-a motion.” By 1989, she seemed well on her way to being a one-hit wonder.

Peter Waterman, one-third of the producing and songwriting team Stock Aitken Waterman -- better known as the Hit Factory and responsible for monster singles from ’80s acts like Bananarama, Rick Astley, and Minogue -- partly blames a lack of promotion for the sudden radio silence. “We couldn’t get [Minogue’s] people to commit to America,” he says. “You’ve got to give America respect -- it’s the biggest country in the world as far as record sales are concerned.”

Furthermore, by the early ’90s, rap and grunge were taking over the airwaves. Reigning pop queens Madonna and Janet Jackson were dirtying up their images and sound by shedding their inhibitions -- and more and more clothing -- on their albums and in their videos. It was difficult to pinpoint exactly how to pitch the squeaky clean Minogue to an increasingly pop-phobic nation. “It’s very simple to sit in a studio in London and think, This will be a hit in America,” Waterman says. “But how arrogant is that? We had no bloody clue what would be a hit in America.”

Undaunted by the American lockout, Minogue looked elsewhere and concentrated on promoting her ever-expanding empire -- which today, aside from 11 studio albums, three live CDs, and eight live concert DVDs, also includes bed linens, lingerie, and a line of fragrances. She came to be worshipped as a bona fide pop deity in almost every major market in the world, bar the United States. Minogue was an irresistible mash-up of the girl next door and the simpering sex kitten. Straight women wanted to be her, straight men wanted to bed her, and gay men -- overseas and in the U.S., where they make up the bulk of her fan base -- couldn’t get enough of her. “She’s like Glinda the Good Witch,” says Scissor Sisters’ Jake Shears, who befriended Minogue when they first worked together in 2004. “She has a really loving, open, sexy spirit that makes a lot of gay guys think she’d be a great best friend.”

In 2002, she released the throbbing, hypnotic “Can’t Get You Out of My Head,” a clear departure from the bubblegum pop of her previous singles, and the song shot to number 1 on nearly every European chart. Its deceptively simple “la la la” chorus was so inescapably catchy—and unlike anything else on the radio at the time—that even in the U.S. it launched into orbit in the Billboard Top 10. Still, she forewent touring here, dropping by for just a short spin around the late-night talk-show circuit, and instead chose to channel most of her energy into promoting the single in proven markets like Europe, Australia, and Japan. Other than her public struggle with breast cancer in 2005, it was the only time in the last 20 years that her name resonated in America.

Last September, U.S. fans finally got theirs when Minogue brought her For You, For Me tour to North America, for a short, six-city run. “I wasn’t here to prove anything or sell anything and that was absolutely liberating,” the 42-year-old Minogue says, all five-foot-one of her curled up on a couch in the Mandarin Oriental during a week of nonstop events in New York City, which culminated in a surprise midnight visit to Splash, the city’s most famous gay club, where she performed her new single, “All the Lovers,” and debuted snippets of her 11th studio album, Aphrodite. “That whole tour last fall was from the heart. I might as well have just burned hundred dollar bills because it cost me a fortune, but I didn’t care,” she says. “I thought, I have to do this now or I’ll regret it.”

This sudden urgency was, in part, set ablaze courtesy of one Lady Gaga, whose dizzying ascent to power has in a few short months changed the face of the music industry and whose influence on the market now offers Minogue the opportunity to finally win over America. But, paradoxically, rather than cashing in on the Auto-Tuned, electro-scuzzy craze now dominating radio and the iTunes sales chart (and which she has flirted with in the past, most notably on 2008’s X), Minogue is boldly going exactly where she began: back to 1988.

“Lady Gaga dropped a meteor in the middle of the pop landscape -- which is amazing,” Minogue says. “But it meant that we had to take that into account. It wouldn’t have made any sense to go down that road to try to fit in.” Instead, Aphrodite delivers lighthearted pop songs -- woozy with crushes, trampled hearts, and late-night excursions to the local disco -- made up of sweeping piano lines, fizzing synths, and layered background vocals, all of which would have sounded right at home on Minogue’s debut.

“The record isn’t trying to be clever -- it delivers exactly what we want from Kylie, which is pure pop,” says Shears, who cowrote the standout “Too Much” with Minogue and Calvin Harris. “When we were writing lyrics together, sometimes she’d put something down and I’d think, Oh, my God, that is the lamest thing I’ve ever heard! And then it comes out of her mouth and it’s absolutely brilliant. That’s the beauty of her and that’s the beauty of great pop music—taking something very, very simple and injecting it with meaning and emotion.”

“We didn’t want to try to reinvent the wheel,” Minogue says. “We just wanted to make really good songs.”

Really good -- and really gay. Aphrodite was helmed by executive producer Stuart Price, who is responsible for some of the queerest -- and best -- pop music to emerge from the past decade including Madonna’s Confessions on a Dance Floor and Scissors Sisters’ recent Night Work. “I made some of the gayest-sounding songs I’ve ever made with Kylie and Jake,” Calvin Harris told the Sydney Star Observer. “I’d listen to it and think, Wow, this is really gay.... The old euphoric rush has something to do with pop music.” Shears agrees. “I can’t stand labeling something ‘gay music,’ but there is something incredibly anthemic about the album.” For her part, Minogue laughs and claims, “I don’t have any objectivity,” before conceding, “The songs definitely make you want to put your hands up, which probably makes Jake and Calvin think of being at the club. There’s a micro-rush in all of them -- we give you a minute to calm down and then it’s ‘whoop whoop’ all over again.”

But a trip to the club alone does not a gay man -- or gay sensibility -- make. And Minogue’s uncertainty regarding Aphrodite’s queer quotient is ironic. When her videos aren’t directly exploring queer themes -- in “All the Lovers,” (see above) for instance, Minogue casts herself as a goddess conducting and blessing a pansexual orgy from atop a writhing pyramid of half-naked bodies -- they’re soaked in homoeroticism, camp, and the kind of sexual empowerment that has long been an envy of the gay community. Her live shows have featured covers of Boy George’s “The Crying Game,” “Somewhere Over the Rainbow,” Madonna’s “Vogue,” and ABBA’s “Dancing Queen.” Her muscular, kinetic backup dancers are regularly cross-dressed and coupled in same-sex pairs for playfully raunchy numbers (like a shower scene in a men’s locker room). Sometimes they’re stripped entirely of their gender, reduced to H.R. Giger–inspired drones that worship Minogue, their alien queen, or dressed as a jubilant gang of futuristic pop-and-lockin’ androids. It’s almost as if Minogue is attempting to push past our obsession with sex and sexuality to free herself, and us, from its limitations.

Still, unlike other female pop stars, Minogue has never felt the need to pander to gay fans -- or to shock and titillate straight ones -- by flirting with bisexuality. In January, after a Mexican magazine published a story claiming Minogue had admitted to liking women, she responded via Twitter, “OMG such a load of hype and nonsense ... misquotes and an interview that never HAPPENED!!! Grrrrr!!!” Asked to clarify, Minogue says, “I didn’t speak with a Mexican magazine. They took a bunch of random quotes -- some of which sounded familiar and some they’d taken from somewhere that has nothing to do with me. So far my sexuality has been with men, but I stand by the video for ‘All the Lovers’ -- if it’s love, it’s good.”

Legendarily polite about her competitors (she calls Madonna, the woman to whom she has drawn the most comparisons, “inspiring” and Lady Gaga “brilliant”), Minogue doesn’t have much to say about their supposed penchants for same-sex dalliances. “I suppose it’s pretty trendy. I don’t even have a tattoo. I’m so untrendy,” she says, adding, perhaps metaphorically, “I think maybe I should have one -- I’d secretly like to have a galaxy somewhere.”

Whether or not that galaxy will end up including the United States remains to be seen. Aphrodite is the singer’s most cohesive and arguably best work to date, but with Americans still heavily favoring hip-hop and electro-pop, Minogue’s brand of pure, heady, and, yes, gay pop might fall on deaf -- or otherwise occupied -- ears. Waterman, the man who helped launch her career all those years ago, suggests no matter how good an album is or how heavily it’s promoted there are still too many factors to predict its success. “You can sit down and plan,” he says, “but the truth is it might be released on the wrong Tuesday, or the temperature might be too cold for people to come out to your gig, or you may turn up late because of some unperceived circumstances, and suddenly people think you’re arrogant and it’s over just like that.”

Minogue herself resents the notion that her career is any less successful because she hasn’t yet conquered the U.S. “It’s frustrating when people say ‘This is finally her push for America’ -- it’s not like that. It’s not centered around whether or not I make it in America, and I think that was poetically proven last year [with the For You, For Me tour],” she says. Shears thinks that at this point in her career, Minogue’s success on the charts is the last thing on her mind. “I think when she came and played [New York City’s] Hammerstein Ballroom last fall, it proved that there is a real hunger for her on stage here,” he says. “She just wants to connect with the people and whether that fan base remains the capacity of the Hammerstein Ballroom or it becomes the entire United States, it doesn’t really matter to her.”

Minogue would be lying if she said she didn’t care how the United States responds to Aphrodite, but she insists it all comes down to her fans. “It cuts like a knife if I read a bad review,” she says, stabbing at her chest. “But in the end, how the album is received by the press won’t make any difference to me -- I’d still come back. A few thousand people in a room sharing two or three hours together -- when all the other stuff gets too complex to understand, that’s a really good place to bring it back to.”

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More (kinda over the top) hype to cheer Sylph :wub: (Reminds me that I really need to invest in some Kylie bed linens :unsure: )

International Pop Icon Kylie Minogue returns to the Billboard 200 this week as her 11th studio album Aphrodite (EMI’s Astralwerks Records) debuts at #19, marking her highest U.S. chart position since 2002’s Fever. It is top 10 in such major markets as New York, Los Angeles, San-Francisco, DC, Seattle, Miami, Chicago and Boston. Aphrodite became Kylie’s fifth #1 album in the UK, hitting the top spot a full 22 years to the week since her debut album Kylie entered the chart. The album also made Kylie the first solo artist in the history of the UK charts to have a #1 album in four different decades. Around the globeAphrodite debuted in the top 10 in thirteen different countries including #1 in Mexico, #2 in Australia, Switzerland and Spain, #3 in Austria, France and Germany and top 5 in Belgium, Holland, Ireland and Taiwan.

“I’ve been completely overwhelmed by the reaction to ‘Aphrodite’ around the world and to hear that the album has got to number 19 in the U.S. is the most amazing news. I am ecstatic!” said Kylie.

Aphrodite sees Kylie celebrate her dance-floor roots and features Stuart Price as Executive Producer. The list of songwriters includes Kylie, Stuart Price, Calvin Harris, the Scissor Sisters’ Jake Shears, Nerina Pallot, Swedish House Mafia, NERVO and Keane’s Tim Rice-Oxley. Critics and fans around the globe have been praising the album as one of Kylie’s best. The first single “All The Lovers” has been heating up airwaves and dancefloors around world since the start of summer. It reached #1 on the UK airplay chart and is currently #6 on the U.S. Billboard dance chart. The Joseph Kahn (Lady Gaga, Britney Spears, Katy Perry) directed video premiered on MTV’s LOGO last month and is also being played on Music Choice. Kylie recently graced the June/July cover of Blackbook Magazine and is currently on the August cover of Out Magazine which hit newsstands this week.

In the Fall of 2009 Kylie stormed America to sell out her first ever North American tour. The 6-city tour kicked off in Oakland and made stops in Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Chicago, Toronto and New York, wowing fans and critics alike at each stop. Entertainment Weeklycalled the show a “two-hour post-disco fantasia of strobe, bass, and glitter—an all-out spectacle.” The New York Times claimed “The concert (was) efficient, clobbering, expensive, generous…close to an alternate reality.” Kylie treated her U.S. fans with a new song “Better Than Today” which she played for the first time during the tour. Kylie is expected to make an announcement about a 2011 world tour soon.

Over the course of her extraordinary 20-plus-year-career, Kylie Minogue has been a global force in pop music and is one of the world’s most successful female artists with more than 60 million albums sold worldwide, 50 hit singles including the U.S. Billboard dance-chart toppers “Can’t Get You Our of My Head,” “Love At First Sight,” “Slow,” and the Grammy-Award winning “Come Into My World.” She has received countless awards and accolades including an OBE from the Queen, 8 sold-out world tours including the KylieX2008 tour which traveled to 21 countries throughout Europe, South America, Dubai, Asia, New Zealand and Australia. Minogue has released ten studio albums, three live CDs, eight live concert DVD’s, plus her Greatest Hits, Ultimate Kylie double album and Boombox The Remix Album 2000-2008. Kylie has her own successful bed linen line “Kylie at Home” and has released 6 fragrances, the latest “Couture” for women and “Inverse” for men. Her 7th fragrance “Pink Sparkle” was released this month.

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I heard they expected the album to hit #1 in 8 countries and it only hit #1 in the UK, and missed #1 in Australia shockingly to the 3 week old Eminem album.

I wonder if her popularity has faded a lot in her home country. All The Lovers flopped there and the album couldn't unseat a 3 week old album.

The album has slipped to #2 in the UK midweeks, Eminem is back up to #1.

It will be interesting to see if this album has any legs.

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You already are saying the album might not have legs? LOL! Even X had legs! I think Kylie will sell very well expecially during Xmas season. Her upcoming singles are more commercial than All the Lovers (which is doing very well) and she has a huge tour coming as well. I don't think there are any worries with this album. It looks more like things will build instead of just fizzling out.

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When is she expecting to go on tour again? Is she going to do small clubs in North America again?

I hope the alum doesn't fizzle out fast, because there are much better singles that can come off of it than All The Lovers that can hold it up well over the next couple of months if she and Parlophone play their cards right.

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I'm sure the tour won't be until next year and hopefully the album does enough to expand the US leg of the tour. As for Australia, you know she didn't do any promo there so a #2 album and a decent charting single is fine IMO. I'm just curious how Get Out Of My Way will perform and when she'll come to the US to push the album/single.

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Get Out Of My Way is being released in September, right? It should be an easy top 3 or top 5 hit. It is probably the most commercial track off the album and I think it probably would have been a stronger lead single for the album.

I'm shocked about the performance in Australia because even X managed to go to #1 there with little to no promotion and 2 Hearts was a #1 lead single there.

ETA: All The Lovers played in the background in a party scene on Emmerdale on Wednesday's episode. :lol:

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Australia is the only place where she often still climbs the chart after a lower debut, it could do better once her promo down there starts--my Aussie friend claims that usually plays a big part (no idea though...)

Apparently Get Outa My way will be the lead US single, All The Lovers is being counted (conveniently?) as only a club single. I dont' see it catching on unless there's some fluke, but we'll see.

I actually think the album will have legs, and from what I've read (though it could all be spin) it actually is performing a bit better than EMI thought, Y&R I'd be curious where youheard about the #1 in 8 countries. (BTW it debuted at 7 in Canada, her best charting here).

I think the tour will start by Nov. She's set to do promo work for Outa My Way in the US and Canada in August. Her last N America tour wasn't clubs, but theatres (not that that's much diff but remember the venue in NY where she did three nights holds 10,000, so it is bigger than if she had just done club dates). And her only Canadian date, the one I went to in Toronto was in the full Air Canada Center, where Madonna, etc, performs, and it sold oout. I suspect if, as seems to be happening, she incorporates Canada and the US into her next world tour, we'll prob get it at a mix of different sized venues. She easily could sell out an arena in Montreal and prob New York (she was set to add a fourth night to her New York date on the last tour but all venues were booked), etc, but...

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Some of the chart gurus on UK Mix were claiming that Team Kylie predicted the album to go to #1 in 8 countries, particularly in Australia, which is often a stronger market for her than the UK. Again, the album was kept from the top spot from a 3 week old Eminem album, and I don't think he's done any promo there.

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    • More 1976 LOL Carrie is very afraid that Ian’s paying her bills will force Arlene into a relationship with him she doesn’t want. She asks Joe if there’s some way to give Ian  back the money. Joe tells Arlene that her mother’s afraid of the situation, but Arlene assures him that the only thing she fears is that Tom will find out and think she’s more than a friend to Ian. Betsy, understandably resentful of Arlene, can’t see what her brother sees in her and is upset to see Arlene with Ian, as she’s sure Tom will be hurt. Tom is initially quite angry when he happens to learn that Ian paid Carrie’s hospital bills in full but believes Arlene when she assures him Ian’s just a friend. Ian, meanwhile, after Arlene admits she has strong feelings for a young doctor and can therefore regard Ian only as a friend, puts the pieces together and makes an appointment to see Tom for a cardiac examination. Tom realizes why Ian has chosen him and refuses a considerable fee to become Ian’s personal physician. . Betsy has suggested that Tom not ask Arlene to Meg’s formal New Year’s Eve party for the sake of all concerned. Meg, while having Carrie alter her party dress, mentions she’s being escorted by a wealthy man but doesn’t mention Ian by name. Ian had asked  Arlene to fly to Mexico with him for the New Year, but she declined, explaining she had another date. Tom, seeing how left out she feels, tells Arlene they are going to Meg’s party after all, and she begins looking for a dress, unable to afford the type of smashing creation she really wants. Ian, learning that Arlene’s  looking for a dress suitable for Meg’s party, arranges to have a designer creation sent in place of the off the rack dress she selected. When it arrives, Arlene and Carrie immediately plan to return it, but, on second thought, Arlene decides it wouldn’t hurt if she wore it just this once.  Ben Harper is released from prison, and Betsy tries - to show him they have nothing left between them by dating Jamie. However, her feelings for Ben get in the way of her enjoying Jamie’s company. Jamie has decided to accept an out-of-town law firm’s offer and, before leaving, helps Diana arrange the passport requirements for her newly arranged missionary trainee post in Peru. Diana tells Jamie she’s finally found peace except for her sadness at having to leave Johnny  behind. Beaver Ridge has continued to deteriorate since Rick left Meg in control, and Jamie warns Rick that since he owns fifty-one percent of the club, he’ll have to come up with fifty-one percent of the money needed to put the place back on its feet. Cal has mentioned to Rick that she would rather have a smaller, more informal home than his imposing house, and when she learns he’s put the house on the market she assumes he’s considering her desire for an easier home to run. Rick is determined that Cal not know the full extent of his financial problems. Since she wants it so badly, Rick promises Cal he’ll buy the mill house as their home, but he refuses adamantly to accept money from her trust fund toward the purchase, recalling the trouble resulting from the last time he borrowed  money from a woman—her mother, Meg.  Ian informs Ray that he'll get his cut of Beaver Ridge only when he, Ian, has the controlling interest.  When Rick can’t raise his share of the Beaver Ridge capital, he approaches Ray for help. Ray sends him to Ian, who refusés to make a loan, explaining it’s his firm policy, but suggests he pay one hundred thousand ~ dollars for two percent of Rick’s holdings in Beaver Ridge, thus transferring majority ownership to himself. Rick thinks it over and realizes he has no choice but to accept. He hates losing control of Beaver Ridge but  feels his first responsibility is Cal and he must protect her from his financial worries. Ben has moved in with Van and Bruce, explaining to Meg that he wants no help and no coddling, he has to make it on his own. He manages to find a job as a salesman in a sporting-goods shop, despite his parole. Betsy hires Carrie as Suzanne’s baby sitter in order to be absent when Ben visits his daughter. Ben finally tells Betsy he’d hoped there was still a chance for them despite everything but her dating Jamie and avoiding him seems to mean he was mistaken. Betsy admits she’s no longer seeing Jamie and agrees to be home when Ben visits. They then call a truce and decide to attend Meg’s party together.  
    • A few years after my grandfather and great aunt passed away, my grandmother married her widowed brother-in-law. You could have knocked us all over with a feather when they told us. My point is: it happens in RL, a lot more often than people think. In the Jack/Siobhan case, it would have been super messy, which is exactly what you want on a soap. Putting Siobhan with Joe forced them to write her as very naive and gullible, which seemed totally wrong for the character they initially introduced. I liked Rose, too, but that story also got derailed by the stupid mob stuff.
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