Anyone watch these shows? I absolutely love them. Ive watched NJ and Atlanta and now they are airing NY. Couldnt get into the Orange County. Too many blondes and fake boobs. Anyone else watching the current season of NY. Lots of drama. My favorites are Bethany and Kelly. I also like Jill although she bugs me. Alex does nothing for me and I cant stand Ramona and LuAnn

Kenya is seriously playing nene so well

http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-atlanta/season-6/videos/nene-has-her-eye-on-kenya?cid=related_sfv_OCT13_A

As for the reunion, nene will come for Kenya. Shady Fakedra will chime in.

That's it, I think.

I think kandi, Cynthia and porcha are smart enough to know the general reaction has been pro Kenya. Then ain't going to go against that. Now Cynthia may defend nene, and if Kenya comes for her she will come back, but that's goes for most.

Reunion wise I'm most exacted for Cynthia vs Kandi and hopefully nays showing that Christopher did grab Kenya cuz apparently they didn't see it except for nene who defends it.

And that's the other think. How amazing was it when nene said men shouldn't get involved in women business but she defended chris grabbing Kenya and told Kenya she's lucky she didn't get her ass beat? This phony ass bitch is showing how hypocritical she is.

I think Porsha might say something, as she knows her place on the show is very shaky.

Cynthia - I don't know. She could go either way.

I have to admit I'm hoping that Cynthia is seriously called out at this reunion.

I think porcha will try to play the role she has this season. That of light, harmless fun and reason.

She needs to go either way.

I'd love it if Cynthia was called out.

Kenya is seriously playing nene so well

http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-atlanta/season-6/videos/nene-has-her-eye-on-kenya?cid=related_sfv_OCT13_A

she apologized and took responsibility for her role yet Nene STILL did not do the same

My point is this. Nene is the star of Atlanta. Whether she loses her popularity or not, people will look back on this show and she is the one they will remember, for the most part. She is the only RHOA lady who is really a celebrity outside of the franchise (aside from Kandi, who is very famous but less famous as the star of this show, and more famous for her actual career). Now, that being said, Bravo knows (and has known since last year) that they are in danger of losing her. They'll never fire her, but they know she may walk, whether it be due to other projects or her dissatisfaction with the state of things. It's because of that that they are so desperate to find a new "star". We all know good and well that this show wouldn't have survived with just the season 4 ladies and not Nene. And you cannot simply bring someone in and expect them to be the star, they have to be groomed and the fans must become accustomed to them, as is supposedly happening with Kenya.

I'm not seeing this holy hell of backlash that you all claim is out there, but even as a ride or die Nene fan, I can admit there is backlash out there and I can say she hasn't acted 100% the way she should. But the way the show is *handling* this situation is what I mean in regards to editing Kenya well. In past seasons, they would have done anything to make Nene look 100% correct, even if it meant giving Kenya the bitch edit or even deleting scenes/events that made Nene look bad. However, because they fear they will lose Nene, they are simply airing everything Nene does and says, and devoting LOTS of airtime to Kenya in an attempt to make her look like she is the star. You know in Season 4 we would have been seeing an episode full of Nene. Last night's Kenya-centric episode never would have happened. But because they're trying to groom Kenya into Nene 2.0 in order to save their franchise, they're simply airing Nene as she is and showing nothing negative in regards to Kenya. If you don't think they're giving Kenya the glamorous edit, you are dead wrong. The amount of airtime they've devoted to her alone shows that they are trying to slant this in her direction in order to protect their asses.

The problem is that it will never last. Kenya will not be the star of this show because one of two things will occur. Either Nene will leave, or Nene will flay her alive at the reunion and then return next year totally disinterested in her. This feud will not go on forever, and eventually people will grow bored. If Nene leaves or moves on, Kenya is left with nothing. She has no story outside of this, and no real friends on the cast. Her relevancy is completely contingent on Nene, and she knows that. Unless Bravo brings in someone she's friends with next year in order to continue their attempt to make her into the new Nene, her star will fade before it even fully lit up.

The long and the short of it is that Bravo is attempting to make Nene irrelevant before she leaves on her own and makes RHOA completely irrelevant.

Edited February 17, 201411 yr by Mr. Vixen

That would have made sense last year when Nene had stuff going for her but makes no sense now when RH is all she has. Why would Bravo set things up to force her to walk? Based on where her life is right now, there is no fear of her leaving but intentionally setting up Kenya to take her place and demonizing her with a horrible edit are things that would alienate Nene, not make her want to stay

I'm sorry, but I still claim BS to that. Andy Cohen is going to do everything in his power to get Nene to stay. He is not going to let anybody plot to take down Nene. IF Nene leaves, at the very least Andy will try to make I Dream of Nene or a talk show happen for Nene. He's not going to run her off hating him. I think after season 4 the producers saw that there might be a shake up. For all anybody knew, Nene could've booked a big acting job which would've prevented her from filming at all, plus you have Sheree unable to film due to insufficient funds and Kim so pregnant that her place wasn't 100% safe either. With the prospect of their 3 stars leaving, I thought they did a good job of bringing in Kenya and Porsha as replacements. In the end things worked out better than they had hoped since Nene decided to stick around, but I have no doubt that Kenya was cast with the goal of her becoming the next star in case anything happens with Nene. I don't think that is manipulative or a wrong thing to do and the viewers have responded well enough to Kenya that they don't need to jump through hoops to justify her presence. Just like Nene, you love or hate or or love-to-hate her.

DEAD at your insufficient funds shade in regards to She-Broke

I'm sorry, but I still claim BS to that. Andy Cohen is going to do everything in his power to get Nene to stay. He is not going to let anybody plot to take down Nene. IF Nene leaves, at the very least Andy will try to make I Dream of Nene or a talk show happen for Nene. He's not going to run her off hating him. I think after season 4 the producers saw that there might be a shake up. For all anybody knew, Nene could've booked a big acting job which would've prevented her from filming at all, plus you have Sheree unable to film due to insufficient funds and Kim so pregnant that her place wasn't 100% safe either. With the prospect of their 3 stars leaving, I thought they did a good job of bringing in Kenya and Porsha as replacements. In the end things worked out better than they had hoped since Nene decided to stick around, but I have no doubt that Kenya was cast with the goal of her becoming the next star in case anything happens with Nene. I don't think that is manipulative or a wrong thing to do and the viewers have responded well enough to Kenya that they don't need to jump through hoops to justify her presence. Just like Nene, you love or hate or or love-to-hate her.

Andy will always be ride or die for Nene, but he doesn't have the power over the show that he used to. The bolded proves my point. Kenya was brought on so they could groom her into Nene 2.0. That backfired at first, but now that some are warming to Kenya and they know Nene could walk any day, they are no longer invested in Nene the way they were. They know she's their most valuable player and they are desperately trying to downplay that so they don't get clowned by her.

DUPLICATE

Edited February 17, 201411 yr by Chris B

Andy will always be ride or die for Nene, but he doesn't have the power over the show that he used to. The bolded proves my point. Kenya was brought on so they could groom her into Nene 2.0. That backfired at first, but now that some are warming to Kenya and they know Nene could walk any day, they are no longer invested in Nene the way they were. They know she's their most valuable player and they are desperately trying to downplay that so they don't get clowned by her.

This is total BS. Andy is the EXECUTIVE PRODUCER of every Real Housewives show. If anything he is MORE involved now that his focus is his production company and only the RH shows. And Kenya did not backfire in any way. Last season had record ratings throughout and Kenya was a HUGE talking point. If anything, NENE was irrelevant last season. She did absolutely nothing. And not invested? Did you miss them giving her a full series, instead of a 1-3 episode wedding special? Have you missed her two one-on-one WWHL episodes? You can say you're a Nene fan, but come on now..

This is total BS. Andy is the EXECUTIVE PRODUCER of every Real Housewives show. If anything he is MORE involved now that his focus is his production company and only the RH shows. And Kenya did not backfire in any way. Last season had record ratings throughout and Kenya was a HUGE talking point. If anything, NENE was irrelevant last season. She did absolutely nothing. And not invested? Did you miss them giving her a full series, instead of a 1-3 episode wedding special? Have you missed her two one-on-one WWHL episodes? You can say you're a Nene fan, but come on now..

Andy's power at Bravo in general has been reduced recently. The show has a new show runner and producers and from what I've heard, Andy isn't as involved as he once was. He has the authority, but it isn't solely his. Again, this is just what I've heard and I may be wrong.

Kenya absolutely did backfire. She was a talking point but everyone hated her. She was hardly the "star" they wanted her to be, until this year (supposedly). I Dream of Nene was filmed before season 6 of RHOA and is therefore irrelevant to this conversation, but I will say that the show was only 6 episodes and no longer than Kim or Bethenny's series, if I recall correctly. I'm not denying that ANDY is invested, but there are other people involved and they are most definitely trying to diminish Nene's importance to the show to soften the blow when she leaves. Andy being ride or die for Nene doesn't protect her from everything, as sad as it makes me to admit it.

Edited February 17, 201411 yr by Mr. Vixen

Why is I Dream of NeNe irrelevant for having been taped before S6, yet Kenya in

S5 isn't?

Edited February 17, 201411 yr by Cheap21

Why is I Dream of NeNe irrelevant for having been taped before S6, yet Kenya in

S5 isn't?

Because I'm talking about Bravo/ the RHOA producers CURRENT investment in Nene, which has nothing to do with IDoN or Kenya in season 5. My only point about Kenya was in response to Chris. Kenya was a disaster in Season 5, to the point that I've heard she almost wasn't asked back. Now that she's showing some "promise", they're invested in her and working overtime to diminish Nene.

Edited February 17, 201411 yr by Mr. Vixen

Andy. Rey. UCR has control of the wives series and wwhl. His step down wasnt really down, it was more of a shift to focus on what was working and have someone else come in and focus on new bravo shows. It was down in name only, up in power tho really.

Kenya was a talking point last season above and beyond nene. Be it good or bad it was something. Production clearly didn't mind it was negative because they brought her back of nenes wishes. And this season has flipped and she's very much still talked about but for the. Ost part much more positively.

Nene has basically no story without Kenya. Kenya actually has conflict and drama outside of nene.

This whole Kenya is being given a good edit and production isn't manipulating footage to force nene to look good now argument basically proves what some of us have been saying. And I honestly didn't expect you to also go the blame production route. Nene is acting a. Damn fool on the show and IRL about the show. She has a very accurate portrayal. So does Kenya it would seem. In fact I'd say from what we have seen from the wives ATL is the least minuplated production wise. They all seem to get an edit that's rue to who they put out there.

Nene got a big head and her 15min crashed and burned and now all she has rhoa after making it clear she planned to leave. She didn't want Kenya back but production brought her back instead. Nene threw the first punch in this battle and has lost and lost and lost. The fact that every single fan didn't turn on her yet doesn't prove anything. The fact that many, many have tho says a lot. Her star power is irrelevant. Her leading lady of ATL might not be but look at Vicki on OC, she's still standing but she's not exactly well liked, respected etc. that where nene is heads minus the control over production due to her ego.

Andy is all about the show. Quite frankly he doesn't seem like like Brandi much at all but he knows she gets people talking and creates buzz. When everyone thought Kenya was a flop he knew that at least she had them talking. He knew that cutting the original NYC wives in half would hurt the shows ratings but did it anyways to better the show. He's a smart man.

I'm not saying they are firing nene. I don't think anyone is. I am saying if she pulls a it's me or Kenya tho they will likely pick Kenya. That's not the same thing honestly. It's very different.

Because I'm talking about Bravo/ the RHOA producers CURRENT investment in Nene, which has nothing to do with IDoN or Kenya in season 5. My only point about Kenya was in response to Chris. Kenya was a disaster in Season 5, to the point that I've heard she almost wasn't asked back. Now that she's showing some "promise", they're invested in her and working overtime to diminish Nene.

Wow..