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[Taoboi]

So...anyone want to discuss that blind item that is clearly about Carlos, Bravo, and Nene?

[Cat]

Ooo is this a new Nene Carlos blind item?

[ThePrinceOfSunspear]

Kenya stays blaming the "haters". But her party was an absolute joke. I mean for someone to be able to drink it without choking is hilarious. 

 

Damn Cynthia GET IT. Porsha definitely has no rights to call her a "Bitch".They aint friends like that....not at all. 

[Taoboi]

What was the first one? lol.

 

It could be I'm just behind, but TT posted a blind item that sounds like them.

[NothinButAttitude]

Shannon isn't happy about Vicki's one-on-one tonight. But what I took from this video is David's body language. This man wanted no parts of the drama and Shannon basically strong-armed him into responding. And she wonders why her hubby finds solace elsewhere....

[Cat]

Shannon is a bully to her spineless husband and she needs to sit down. EVERYBODY on the OC needs to sit down and STFU tbh. They are literally digging the show into an early grave. And that includes Vicki whose credibility is shot. The more she appears in interviews, the worse it sounds and more contradictory she gets. This is a mess. If I was her PR guru I would tell her No More Interviews and she needs to lay low for a little bit. Because she risks losing everything she holds dear -- her job on RHoOC (if the others refuse to film with her -- unless they bring Gretchen back and she does), her Coto business (with employees already jumping ship), and paying Brooks to keep his mouth shut. He is already threatening to write a tell-all book.

[NothinButAttitude]

I think it was Bravo who strong-armed Vicki into doing a one-on-one to paint her as a victim post Brook being exposed as a fraud. 

 

Those other four chicks (Meghan/Trailer Sue/ShanLoon/Pleather) are LOVING the publicity the show is getting. OC has always been the black sheep as it never got national attention like the other housewives get. They are eating this up not realizing, as you pointed out, they are killing the show in the process. 

 

And from the ladies' responses, it seems like no one wants to be involved with Vicki except possibly Heather. Idiots. Andy is SO going to cast around Vicki come s11 for her redemption story and is going to bring on women to back her. Who better than a combination of the four women, who've adamantly and openly supported  Vicki: Gretchen, Alexis, Jeana, and Lizzie. 

 

Gretchen is a sure in as she'll rock the boat and wreak havoc for TamRat. Seeing as TamRat slyly questioned Andy's interviewing skills by claiming 'she got off easy,' he'll want her to pay dearly for that. Shannon echoed the same sentiments too, so she better hope that Andy doesn't cast David's mistress on the show, who I've heard through rumbling and rumors wants to be on the show. 

 

I think Alexis could be a sure in too (like I said in the past) b/c her presence played a pivotal role in the reunion. She's another that would come back and get Tamra together. 

 

Lizzie and Jeana most likely will be brought back in lesser roles but seeing as Lizzie is extremely close to Gretchen and Jeana is close to Vicki, it could come down to footage and how much they provide to decide if they hold an orange or not. 

 

I just get this inkling feeling that s11 is going to be a clique v. clique situation a la RHOA s4 & s7. I think it'll be Shannon/Tamra/Heather/Meghan v. Vicki/Gretchen/Alexis/Lizzie. And I say Lizzie b/c out of her and Jeana, she isn't afraid to call Tamra on her BS and I don't believe the farce that they've made up. I think Lizzie chose to make up with Tamra to get her off her back for the time being. But with numbers and people she genuinely likes, I think Lizzie's true hatred for Tamra would arise yet again.

 

I wouldn't mind them bringing back Peggy too b/c she's close to Gretchen and she hates Tamra now. I just see s11 being the downfall of Tamra and Shannon, the redemption of Vicki, and the return of past housewives with grudges against Tamra (Gretchen, Alexis, possibly Jeana or Lizzie).

[Cat]

IA it is hubris on these other women's part. I think you only have to look at what became of NJ when the Gorgas were added and started threatening to expose the Giudice secrets, or NY when they fired half the cast. You are probably right that Season 11 will be Vicki's redemption arc. Having said that, Andy's FB page is currently inundated with comments calling for Vicki to be fired and asking why Andy didn't ask anything about Club Detox. Maybe Bravo won't want the hassle and perhaps viewers, already clued in to how the RHs work, will reject the redemption SL.

 

Oh, Gretchen is definitely back. Her support for Vicki on social media and WWHL practically confirmed it, and Vicki is pushing for it. Trailer Sue (BWAH) better be nervous. She did Gretchen so wrong Season 8 after pretending to be her BFF. If Jeana comes back, Trailer Sue better be REALLY scared because Jeana knows all her secrets... the Simon secrets. IA Lizzie is not crazy about Tamra, and she backed down from last season after Tamra allegedly released her telephone number to her fans or something? I can't remember. None of these women are sitting pretty tbh. If the OG of the OC goes down, they all do. And if Bravo brought David's mistress on the show, the meltdown would be epic. I think Shannon would even threaten to quit.

 

I really liked Peggy Tanous, I thought she was pretty solid on the whole. I didn't realize she was no longer friends with Tamra tho.

[Gray Bunny]

I like the idea of casting around the potential cliques, but that's when you get into dangerous territory of the show getting too dark. The show finally got some buzz this season, but the subject matter itself is dark (and at this point, all talked out). 

 

Tamra is like a cockroach that you just can't kill. I thought we'd get a juicy downfall last season, but that petered out quickly. Shannon, whom I really enjoyed her first season, needs to take out whatever is still stuck up her fanny. 

[NothinButAttitude]

Yep. Peggy and Tamra fell out immediately after she was fired from RHOC. It became obvious to Peggy that Tamra used her as a number. And who was there (and still is) for Peggy? Gretchen. That's one thing I'll say Gretchen does right. She does play nice with all the women past and present. 

 

And between Tamra and Lizzie, Tamra did release her number, which fans called, harassing her. I thought that was so gutter butt. 

 

With Shannon and his mistress, I don't see her quitting over it. Flipping out a first, yes. But she'd wanna capitalize off the story potential even though I'd see people gravitating towards the mistress b/c people are over Shannon's erratic ways. 

 

I truly don't see s11 panning out well for team Tamra. Andy is going to do his best to cast the right players to cause their destruction and Vicki's rise from the ashes. 

[Cat]

Yeah. I was never a fan of Gretchen (too self-involved) but she does make an effort to maintain friendships. And for Tamra to do that to Lizzie was low. Tamra was so threatened by Lizzie because Lizzie owned her ass at the end of Season 9 and again at Reunion. Honestly, I think Tamra is generally about as hated as Vicki is right now by the fandom. Many people believe she is behind the takedown of Vicki or at least has rejoiced at her downfall. I always felt that Tamra was jealous of Vicki's status on the OC. Interesting that you think Tamra will get the bitch edit in Season 11. She's managed to avoid one up until now (even in S9 because let's face it, Shannon was and is a crazy ho).

 

Shannon has always said she believes in putting it all out there as far as her "real" life is concerned. But if David's mistress was ever asked on the show, she could just outright refuse to film with her, which is how Tamra, Gretchen and Heather got Alexis edged off the show. Speaking of ex HWs, I wonder what happened to Lydia. I actually thought she was ok as a HW. 

[NothinButAttitude]

They could refuse to film with her but Bravo would only force them. Why do you think LVP and Kyle had to put up with Brandi so much last season? Bravo forced them to film with her despite them not wanting too. The refusal to film with someone tactic doesn't really work anymore. I think Bravo stresses it in their contracts that they have to film with who production tells them too. 

 

And Lydia was supposed to be on s9 but quit the first week of filming as she felt the show was too toxic. I think she assumed (or knew) that she could've been the possible target for Tamra/Heather/Vicki but once Lydia jumped ship, Heather became the target for the first half of the season. 

 

 

[Cat]

 

That really illustrates just how toxic the atmosphere has become on OC specifically. Most of the HWs used to beg to stay on the show (cough Alexis, Gretchen, Lynne), but Lydia and Lizzie could see the way the winds were turning and choose not to continue as either a HW or at all. A mean part of me would like to blame Tamra for picking a HW each season and driving the pack against her whilst all the while holding her hands up and saying "It wasn't me!"... Is it really fair of me to blame Tamra for everything bad on RHoOC?? Cheap, am I being too hard on her?

 

Did anybody watch the RHoBH Season 1 Revealed show? BH is one of my favorite RH shows and S1 was one of the best opening seasons of any HW franchise, IMO. Fascinating to hear the the views of behind-the-scene camera operators and producers, too. The stuff regarding Kim's alcoholism packs the biggest punch. She also looked so much younger. And Camille... omg, I would love for this bitch goddess to return as a HW. Just the way she spoke was so... wealthy and languorous, lol.

Edited November 26, 2015 by Cat

[NothinButAttitude]

It's Tamra's fault. Point. Blank. Period. She stays having her hand in the pot when it comes to women coming and going on this show and it needs to stop. They need to cast someone that'll dog-walk her ass one good time. 

 

And I watched the RHoBH Revealed show and found it interesting. It makes me miss how BH used to be. Sucks that after s3, the show would go to crap. Last season was good but I have a feeling that this season is gonna be crap too. Especially with everyone questioning YoLyme's disease. Is this like a West coast housewives thing? Questioning people's ailments? I hope this does not dominate the season like Brooks' cancer did on RHOC. 

 

And I miss Camille too. I am one of the few Camille purist fans as I loved her day one, season one. I always felt that Kyle envied Camille's wealth. 

[Cat]

 

Honestly, the only person who can call out Tarantula is Vicki or Jeana. They know where the bodies are buried. Jeana especially has no f*cks left to give. Alexis is too dumb, Gretchen has just cause but ain't no brainbox herself, Lizzie got burned, Shannon is too cray cray, and Heather is too pinched (and would probably never).

 

Oh, of COURSE Kyle was jealous of Camille's wealth. Kyle was jealous of everybody who she felt 'stole' her Star Spot on BH. Camille implied it herself: since Kyle had a hand in casting, Camille felt she had the power to make each HW appear a certain way on the show. Kyle couldn't stand it that Camille took all the headlines (and real estate porn) and Lisa took the worship from the audience. 

 

I loved S1 Camille too. That Alison Dubois dinner party alone she was so catty and delicious! "The morally corrupt Faye Resnick." "Now I know where I've seen you. In Playboy. That's how I know Faye." She WAS the show in Season 1, and as deluded as she could sound at times, you couldn't help but empathize with her at the way the women (led by Kyle) bitched about her and especially the way Kelsey did her so dirty.

 

 

I miss Season 1 BH. It was a perfect storm. Even in Season 3 you felt the show was going a certain way and it wasn't as fun to watch. S4 was the nadir and S5, while good, doesn't quite feel like S1-2 felt. I used to get goosebumps from watching BH back then. It felt so good and Old School Dark Secrets Hollywood. I worry that this coming season may not be great either, but I will watch. 

Edited November 26, 2015 by Cat