GH: I think its BS that Vaughan was booted out for Jackson

[bellcurve]

[SFK]

Yeah, I don't think his execution of the role will fail, I just think the storytelling has "failed" in the sense that (my hunch) we'll be taking a trip back in time and erasing/rearranging/ignoring some more recent history of the other Luckys.

[classicmoment]

LOL SOME of that stuff needed to be erased from the page lol. Flashbacks of Helena programming Lucky whilst resurrecting Stavros. God as much as I loved AG (at the time), CT, SN, and GF I just couldn't .

ut I hear you. GH has done this numerous times so it just may happen, but I hear you

[jcar03]

I have to say that Christina Chambers was axed because it wasn't working out. Susan Haskell didn't return to the role until later.

[Doyen]

Wasn't Susan Haskell's return announced within a month or so of Christina Chambers last episode? Plus the way her Marty's exit was so blatantly ambiguous, most of us could see far in advance that the character would be back. They were probably negotiating with SH while CC was still on the show.

As for the Vaughan/Jackson, my biggest problem is the physical step back that the character has experienced with the return of JJ. Seriously, how do you go from being a bulky 30-something man to looking like a college twink? Just seems so backwards.

[kandbar]

Where is all this GV love coming from? GV is a fair actor, but IMO he never clicked as a Lucky recast. Even the character of Ethan is upstaging his Lucky. I felt the same way when JY was Lucky... bad fit... however, JY went on to play a role more suited to him, J.R. Chandler. Hopefully GV will find something that is tailored to his acting skills. As for "Elaine Princi --- Robin Strasser ... Nicholas Walker --- Jim DePaiva ... Sabine Singh --- Rebecca Budig ... Christina Chambers --- Susan Haskell," I'll take RS over EP, JD over NW and SH over CC any day of the week. As for SS, I was beginning to like her as Greenlee, but that's because she was paired with Aiden. I quenched when RB came back because I knew she would be paired with Ryan, yet again. I'll quench again when RB returns yet again becuz I know where tiic are heading -- Cougar/Stud/Kitten. Blech!

[Vee]

Greg did the job. He worked hard and I liked him, both with Kelly Monaco and Becky Herbst. But he was not the Lucky we knew. He was someone else, someone less vibrant and incandescent, more steady and a bit stodgy. And yes, many times, boring. A large portion of that credit has to go to the writers, who clearly hated Vaughn. But in the end, GV also has a share of the blame. He's not the greatest actor and he could not rise above slanted writing. The character was very bland. Vaughn did his best to bring dignity to this, and I thought he did a good job; JJ now has shoes to fill with Lucky as a husband and father, as Greg's portrayal of Cam and Jake's dad was second to none. But this was always JJ's role to take back, period. No one else compares, for better or worse, come what may. Lucky can come alive again. It's just a shame the writers didn't see fit to let him when they had another actor equally wiling to work to the best of his own, admittedly lesser ability.

As for other recasts, this is all bullshit. Recasts and un-recasts are a fact of life in soaps. They happen everyday and have for many, many years. Nicholas Walker was a fine Max, but in the end, who gives a [!@#$%^&*]; people wanted Jimmy DePaiva more. People loved RKK; too bad, he was a lech and Peter Reckell was equally popular if not moreso. Sabine Singh was a nice girl who worked hard and was a very capable recast; too bad, no one is Rebecca Budig (and as it turns out, even Budig really isn't, anymore). Coltin Scott Fish Taco Martines Conchita Alonso was great as Nikolas #2 with Marisa Ramirez's Gia, but in every other story he had he was an emo, weeping, jazz flute-playing Americanized pansy. Christina Chambers? Don't make me laugh. This is just the way it is. It's a little late to complain now.

(And as for Bree Williamson and TSJ, I like them a lot but I would welcome Erin Torpey and RH back tomorrow. Especially Erin Torpey, who I feel had a much better handle on the character of Jessica Buchanan than Bree - like Greg Vaughn, Bree tries hard and does her best with a very different character that the writers have messed up. She is playing a different role and gives it her own slant. But it's not the Jessica we knew. And Todd is definitely not Todd these days.)

[Vee]

No. CC's exit was announced in the fall of '07; her last airdate was in December. I don't believe Susan's return was announced until April or May of 2008.

[Marc]

I wouldn't. Erin Torpey (like Kristen Alderson) always seemed too kiddy and pollyannaish for her later storylines and I never believe she would have those guys fighting over her. Bree makes Jessica look more believable as an adult. I can't even imagine Erin Torpey playing mother to Jessica's daughter. I also imagine that ET with Mark Lawson would look as weird as her with Steve Richard Harris's Seth. To me it would be bringing back Chris McKenna to play Joey like it was still 1992.

And Roger Howarth was too fickle. If they brought him back, the same thing that used to happen would likely again. He'd be on a more limited contract, would play out the scenes out with a totally disenchanted look on his face and then bolt the show as soon as it was over. Also just like before, the writers would probably would write Todd's storylines with an up-in-the-air non-conclusion because they couldn't be sure RH would be there after a certain period of time. I was a fan of his at the time, but his those antics got old. You either want the job or you don't. It became obvious that OLTL was his fallback while he waited for a bigger ship to sail (who would have guessed that bigger ship would be ATWT.)

BTW, I thought Elaine Princi was an EXCELLENT Dorian! Technically every bit as good as Robin Strasser, even if not as peacockish or histronic. I barely remember Nicholas Walker as Max, but I've heard from other long time viewers that the only time they took the character seriously when when NW played him...that JdP 2nd stint as Max never totally recaptured the zeal of his 1st...and that the character morphed into an unlikable jerk (largely due to JdP's quirks and moods.) With original actors returning to the role, lightening doesn't always strike twice because sometimes their version of the character is more entrenched with a certain time, cast, era and previous administration that has passed.

[Vee]

Chris McKenna actually grew up pretty hot.

[SFK]

"Coltin Scott Fish Taco Martines Conchita Alonso"

Ohhhh boy, I am so weak after that one...

I loved Erin, to this day I still find her more endearing as Jessica, it doesn't help that Bree's Canadian accent still creeps in every now and then. BUT Bree is the sexier Jess, those lips... I saw her one time on a subway platform going over her script. She was kind of smiling and I like to pretend that she was reading her first scenes as Tess. Doesn't that sound creepy and stalkerish? Maybe it IS best to walk up to celebs and say, "Hey!"

RH's Todd was just annoying sometimes, not that TSJ's Todd isn't annoying in his own way. I'd say Trevor is smug and Roger was irritating, Trevor you want to punch, Roger you wanted to silence.

Even as a kid seeing the gentleman with Carolyn Jones in my avatar on promos for OLTL ("It's me Gabrielle, Max... new face, new voice..."), I thought he was all wrong for Max. He was born to play the Trey Cleggs of the world, he is urbane, elegant, too sophisticated for Max.

[DRW50]

I just find Bree very fake as an actress. I remember her first scene, kicking a drink machine, and that set the tone. I think they probably did need to mature Jessica with a recast, or at least a few years away, but I think inadvertently they ended up casting an actress who was, while more adult on the surface, much colder and more princessy on the inside.

[SFK]

I think Bree would have been very annoying, to use your word, "princessy", when Jess was going through her rebellious teen phase. I'll never forget this one simple moment where she'd stormed up to her room and Viki walked in to talk to her without knocking and Jessica just went off on her mother about privacy yadda yadda, OMG, the look on Erika Slezak's face, it just broke my heart. Like, "Oh. What did I do wrong?" you know, like, "My baby doesn't want to be my baby anymore." So sad.

[DRW50]

Yes I really was impressed by Erin Torpey's work as young teen Jessica. There's a really good scene on Youtube where Marty goes to her school and defends her from plagiarism accusations and at the end Jessica hugs her and says "I love you Marty", and the bitter Marty shell cracks open, slightly. I think she wasn't as strong when Jessica aged, but she may have just needed a few years ago.

I do think Bree has some strong moments, I like her with Brody and she wasn't bad in the first Tess story. She was also good at the conclusion of the Tess/Bess mess, especially the cage scenes. She just needs very, very careful writing and direction. I wish there were more actors in the Lord family who don't need a lot of TLC in order to give a decent performance.

[quartermainefan]

I actually liked Lucky more with Greg Vaughan, but I tend to side with the creator of a role having the right to resume their role. Kirsten Storms has been Maxie for a few years now, but if one day that man said the role of Maxie Jones is now being played by Robyn Richards I wouldn't even blink. It took me one entire sentence today to look at JJ and see "Lucky" because I associate JJ with Lucky just as much as I associate GV with him. I personally would have kept GV and written for him the way Passions and DOOL have written for Eric Martsolf (no clothes on a regular basis because soaps need characters like that), but JJ just brings a different but equally valid Lucky to the show. But anyway, I felt all along they needed to ditch Laura Wright and have Sarah Brown play Carly.

I guess there are a few roles in daytime where there is no one actor with a more significant claim on a role over other actors (the Buchanan boys on OLTL), but JJ was Lucky long enough and the first Lucky, and it is tough to begrudge him for more than a moment in resuming his role. GV is fairly commercial--certainly moreso than JJ--and he will land a gig somewhere just by virtue of his good looks alone. Plus, he has years of experience acting on TV, is a known quantity and is known to be reliable. He shouldn't have much trouble and he might be better off for this turn of events.