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5 hours ago, DRW50 said:

Anna was a flightier actress. Maeve had more of an iron rod, even when Vanessa was more lightweight early on.

I can't imagine anyone else as Vanessa either - maybe Christine Jones.

Who you calling flighty?!! I'm only half way serious but if you ever talked to Anna you would know how dead-on serious she was about character, scene analysis, etc. 

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6 hours ago, DRW50 said:

Anna was a flightier actress. Maeve had more of an iron rod, even when Vanessa was more lightweight early on.

I can't imagine anyone else as Vanessa either - maybe Christine Jones.

I did think of one---Sofia Landon Geier, which obviously wouldn't have worked at the time. 

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1 hour ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Who you calling flighty?!! I'm only half way serious but if you ever talked to Anna you would know how dead-on serious she was about character, scene analysis, etc. 

The difference I speak of isn't about AS' preparedness. While her Vanessa has the same elitist air, it lacks Maeve's tightly wound, controlling edginess. Early Vanessa is always playing an angle, ready to shiv you in the back, and childishly possessive of Henry. 

If Maeve's maternity leave hadn't fallen into the climax of the Diane Ballard murder, GL might've just sent Vanessa on a trip until she could return.

LOL...it's no wonder the Vanessa/Ed fling is easily forgotten and rarely referenced. Maeve sleeps with and gets dumped by Mart Hulswit, Anna makes up with Mart, gets early Peter Simon and must break up with him. When Maeve comes back, it's on the arm of Mark Pinter.

 

18 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

https://rumble.com/v40isu4-guiding-light-february-1973-death-of-papa-bauer-bert-ed-mike-bauer.html

That's funny to me because she was a temp replacement once on AW for Anna Stuart's Donna Love. 

I think that's kind of what started me down that road. It is a weird coincidence.

9 minutes ago, P.J. said:

The difference I speak of isn't about AS' preparedness. While her Vanessa has the same elitist air, it lacks Maeve's tightly wound, controlling edginess. Early Vanessa is always playing an angle, ready to shiv you in the back, and childishly possessive of Henry. 

If Maeve's maternity leave hadn't fallen into the climax of the Diane Ballard murder, GL might've just sent Vanessa on a trip until she could return.

LOL...it's no wonder the Vanessa/Ed fling is easily forgotten and rarely referenced. Maeve sleeps with and gets dumped by Mart Hulswit, Anna makes up with Mart, gets early Peter Simon and must break up with him. When Maeve comes back, it's on the arm of Mark Pinter.

 

I think that's kind of what started me down that road. It is a weird coincidence.

Understood! Thanks for the reply. Yes, odd coinkidink!!! 

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*sigh* I just rewatched Billy and Vanessa's second wedding. While it's wonderful, it's also kind of sad--like the end of a book. William Roerick is obviously not well. Larry Gates' appearances have dwindled, and they and Vince Williams die in the next couple of years. Jordan gets fired. 

While I know there's some good stuff coming up before Reva's return knocks the show back into "Reva 24/7" mode, I'm reluctant to watch. 

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3 minutes ago, P.J. said:

*sigh* I just rewatched Billy and Vanessa's second wedding. While it's wonderful, it's also kind of sad--like the end of a book. William Roerick is obviously not well. Larry Gaines' appearances have dwindled, and they and Vince Williams die in the next couple of years. Jordan gets fired. 

While I know there's some good stuff coming up before Reva's return knocks the show back into "Reva 24/7" mode, I'm reluctant to watch. 

Was that when Jordan got into trouble with drugs again?

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On 5/24/2024 at 9:04 PM, TEdgeofNight said:

I met Laiby (Michael Laibson) at the GL fan club gathering in 1996. He didn’t impress me. He was arrogant. Why he went to this gathering of fans who loved the show and came in with an attitude astounded me. GL was not in great shape so why the attitude. Maybe because his job was on the line. He was thankfully fired soon after. I do have to say that his wife, Holly, was there and she was SO lovely! She was almost apologetic. Holly Laibson has since passed. She was a kind person. Michael, not so much. 

I remember that time when the internet was just coming into its own and at the old GL dicussion list someone found Laiby's home number and posted it...which was a step too far. ("Sure, stranger who somehow got my phone number I would love to talk to you about what a sh@t job I am doing!") But actually Laiby was so in over his head, he actually was asking fans for suggestions.

I don't get it, he worked under Marland and ATWT during its golden period, why was he so lost? HE brought back Brown as her iconic character but had the character written like she was Iva Snyder (Nola mopping around the boarding house because her husband cheater on her....she would go snatch that b*tch bald and kicked Quint in his nuts...) Maybe it was more McTavish but that was an era that really could have turned GL around.

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9 hours ago, DRW50 said:

Anna was a flightier actress. Maeve had more of an iron rod, even when Vanessa was more lightweight early on.

I can't imagine anyone else as Vanessa either - maybe Christine Jones.

I was actually onset seeing Anna Stuart playing Vanessa. I have pictures. I agree that Anna was flightier. 

1 minute ago, TEdgeofNight said:

I was actually onset seeing Anna Stuart playing Vanessa. I have pictures. I agree that Anna was flightier. 

Please post your pictures. 

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10 minutes ago, TEdgeofNight said:

I have a whole dvd of the Alan & Rita affair.

LUCKY you! Did SoapClassics do a DVD? I got a couple of the ATWT dvds, but never really check out what (if anything) they did for GL.

2 hours ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Was that when Jordan got into trouble with drugs again?

I'm not exactly sure what, but he gets arrested and Geoffrey Scott steps into the role late summer.

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20 minutes ago, Mitch64 said:

 

I don't get it, he worked under Marland and ATWT during its golden period, why was he so lost? HE brought back Brown as her iconic character but had the character written like she was Iva Snyder (Nola mopping around the boarding house because her husband cheater on her....she would go snatch that b*tch bald and kicked Quint in his nuts...) Maybe it was more McTavish but that was an era that really could have turned GL around.

Honestly, it's like they treated the fans like idiots. Like the only way we'd remember "hey, that's Nola and not Iva!" is with some wacky, fantasy laden story. Like a) the P&G shows hadn't been swapping actors like baseball cards for the prior 20 years and b) a week's worth of bitchy scenes between her and Vanessa wouldn't have made it plain.

4 minutes ago, TEdgeofNight said:

No way!! YOU do not deserve to see them. Ever!

My mistake. I thought I'd treat you like a real, actual, ordinary poster instead of a troll. You manage to take care of that in short order. 

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