I’m up to February 25, 1997.  Into 2 full years of GL now (Feb 1995-Feb 1997)!  

During the lighthouse rescue at the Ball, Roger came across Holly, who had tripped and fell. He helped her up before they both knew who each other was in the darkness. Now Roger is having flashbacks and feelings over Holly again, as he’s scheming with Amanda. He has a very sweet scene talking to Meg, which Holly overhears and visibly has a soft, fond reaction to it. Zaslow’s speech in this scene is pretty noticeable, which is heartbreaking. Holly is back to work now, post maternity leave, and she’s working the Roger/Amanda scoop and has some great scenes sparring a bit with Alex. Holly and Roger then get trapped in an elevator, which plummets to the ground, and they are holding each other. Roger is doing a great job of comforting Holly, who is freaking out. Man, I’m so glad they’re finally getting Roger and Holly back in some kind of orbit again after such a long year of nothing between those two. And I’m so glad I get to type more about Holly after all this time!

Feb 7 - ugh, Lucy and A-M leave Springfield and have a tearful goodbye at the diner with the Coopers, although only Buzz and Eleni were there. Where was Frank? I’m still salty that Lucy’s friendship with Bridgett was completely dropped long ago. They did spend a good amount of time between Lucy and Buzz, which was sweet to see. After their wedding, and with the A-M recast, it felt like Lucy lost her charm that I fell in love with in 1995. She was barely on post-honeymoon boat disaster, which again, I think a big problem was that she lost any friends she had at the boarding house so she was isolated. A-M basically left for me once Hearst left the role. So this is bittersweet for me.

Annie is setting Reva up on a wild goose chase trying to find her long lost sister, just to get Reva out of town and away from Josh. Annie also continues to blackmail Blake into helping her scheme against Reva (stealing files out of Ross’s office; tapping his phone, etc). She holds the parentage of her twins over her head, and while it is mean and I feel for Blake, it’s still quite entertaining to watch it unfold.

Rick and Abby have their engagement party on Valentine’s Day, which was nice. I loved that Reva and Alan showed up, only because they brought Abby to Springfield, and it would have been awful if the writers forgot that.

Great soap opera: 

With Holly’s support, Blake finally broke down and made the decision to tell Ross the truth about Rick being the father of one of the twins (great acting by Keifer in these scenes!). She decides to skip Rick/Abby’s engagement party and go to Ross’s office with the twins in tow, and BOOM, gets into a car crash!  What a great Friday cliffhanger.  Of course, Rick gets called to the hospital from his engagement party to tend to the accident victims and realizes it’s Blake and the twins. Lillian and Rick figure out the twin that’s injured is his (Kevin). How heartbreaking. The hospital calls Ross, who finally showed up to the party, and tells him about the accident. Everyone from Blake’s family heads to the hospital, leaving poor Abby pretty much alone (I feel so bad for her, especially when the baby truth comes out). Kevin is close to dying and Rick screams out he needs to save his son, which Lillian and other nurses hear. Rick and Lillian then save his life in surgery, all while Blake is in a coma, being watched over by Roger and Holly. Rick then FINALLY tells Ross that Kevin is his son. Ross gets angry and throws Rick across the room. These scenes have been fantastic and highly emotional. Wonderful acting by Jerry and O’Leary! Then Ross takes his wedding ring off, walks to Blake’s room where she lies in a coma, and just stares at her. So chilling. Blake then wakes up from her coma and Ross calmly tells her that Jason is fine and Rick saved her child, Kevin’s, life. She then realizes he knows and he confirms it. He coldly tells Blake “You are truly your father’s daughter. Genetically incapable of telling the truth. So amoral and self-absorbed that all you can think about is yourself and your well-being.”  Ouch!  He then walks out on Blake while she’s crying in her hospital bed alone. Meanwhile, a distraught Rick goes back to the engagement party where only Abby is left alone with their gifts, and Rick tells her the truth. Abby breaks down, cries and slaps Rick. She eventually walks out on him, leaving Rick to cry. Both performances were very strong. I wonder if these are the scenes that got Ecklund her Emmy nom.

Meanwhile, Buzz bails Jenna out of jail after she’s caught trying to steal the Grants’ jewelry. He follows her to Texas and she finally spits out the truth that baby Cooper is actually hers. I’ve never been a Buzz fan, but he’s been so tolerable and much more calm since Jenna has arrived and it’s refreshing.

So Leo just told Roger some of the Spaulding secrets. Brandon had another kid, Victoria, and left his will to both Alex and Victoria, thinking Alan was dead so he got nothing. Victoria gave everything over to Alex… interesting.

J is now courting Michelle and being an absolute gentleman. I love the change they’ve made to this character. Pilgrim’s version was so immature, mean and a bad boy, but now we have a nice, gentler J and I’m happy for that.

Opening credits note: Zachary was removed from the opening on Feb 12, and Lucy and A-M were removed on Feb 13. Jenna was added, replacing Lucy as the first character.

Ending credits note:  I’ve noticed now for over a month that Geoffrey Ewing is erroneously listed as ‘Griffin Williams - Geoffrey Williams’, but still placed in the right alphabetical order between ‘J Chamberlain - Ethan Erickson’ and ‘Holly Lindsey-Reade - Maureen Garrett’. I can’t believe no one has noticed this error! I’d send a screen grab if I knew how haha.

21 hours ago, MLH said:

This morning I saw a old 1980 promo of Roger and Holly in some underground cave and it looked more like a horror movie than a soap!  I wish I knew how to post it here.

Okay, let's address this. Why is it you think you don't know what to do to post something here? #! Are you on a computer, your phone or a tablet?

#2 Below here, see "choose files"? And, under it the types of file extensions that are allowed? Do you know what it is you're interested in posting? Video? Photo? Text?

Your turn. 

@alwaysAMC I remember those Roger and Holly elevator scenes. Another example of some of the quality from the interim headwriters, even if it wasn't evident elsewhere. 

The scenes surrounding the Blake paternity reveal are very powerful and yet also understated. A wonderful reminder of just how good Jerry ver Dorn was and a real kick in the seat the show needed. 

2 hours ago, alwaysAMC said:

Ending credits note:  I’ve noticed now for over a month that Geoffrey Ewing is erroneously listed as ‘Griffin Williams - Geoffrey Williams’, but still placed in the right alphabetical order between ‘J Chamberlain - Ethan Erickson’ and ‘Holly Lindsey-Reade - Maureen Garrett’. I can’t believe no one has noticed this error! I’d send a screen grab if I knew how haha.

Computer? Phone? or tablet?

1 hour ago, DRW50 said:

@alwaysAMC I remember those Roger and Holly elevator scenes. Another example of some of the quality from the interim headwriters, even if it wasn't evident elsewhere. 

The scenes surrounding the Blake paternity reveal are very powerful and yet also understated. A wonderful reminder of just how good Jerry ver Dorn was and a real kick in the seat the show needed. 

Totally agree, the February sweeps in 1997 really gave it some life we needed. I thought all four actors killed it for two straight weeks - Kiefer, ver Dorn, O'Leary and Ecklund. I was surprised to see only Ecklund was nominated that year, although I guess it was very early into the year. 

Very happy with how much screen time Holly is getting with these interim headwriters, and the attention Roger/Holly are getting.

1 hour ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Computer? Phone? or tablet?

Computer!  I use a Mac for my personal computer and only know how to use the internet and text on here. My work computer is Windows and I'd know how to do things on there. I really need to get better at using my Mac haha. I'll go search how to print screen and see what I can do.

Let's see if I did this correctly... Whoop!

Edited July 13Jul 13 by alwaysAMC

17 minutes ago, alwaysAMC said:

Totally agree, the February sweeps in 1997 really gave it some life we needed. I thought all four actors killed it for two straight weeks - Kiefer, ver Dorn, O'Leary and Ecklund. I was surprised to see only Ecklund was nominated that year, although I guess it was very early into the year. 

1998 Daytime Emmys GL got five acting nominations: Cynthia Watros (Lead Actress), Kim Zimmer (Lead Actress), Grant Aleksander (Supporting Actor), Amy Ecklund (Supporting Actress), Kevin Mambo (Younger Actor). As we all know, Cynthia Watros ended up pulling off the biggest upset ever.

2 hours ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Okay, let's address this. Why is it you think you don't know what to do to post something here? #! Are you on a computer, your phone or a tablet?

#2 Below here, see "choose files"? And, under it the types of file extensions that are allowed? Do you know what it is you're interested in posting? Video? Photo? Text?

Your turn. 

I saw it on my Kindle. I tried the embedding link, and it didn't work. 

@alwaysAMC  That Holly/Roger elevator scene and the Amanda/Roger storyline is what I wish happened starting in early 96 instead of way into November of 96 when Amanda and Roger teamed up. Instead of 97 when Michael's speech problem was getting worse.  I would have dealt with Michael's illness by him basically having Vanessa's story of a mystery illness. I still do not get why they did all that storyline for Vanessa. 

@DeeVee Yes. I saw plenty of those clips of the Fun House clip.  Even a scene where he took her to this cabin while she was pregnant.

However, this scene they showed was of him kissing her on the cheek in the bathroom.

Edited July 13Jul 13 by MLH

28 minutes ago, MLH said:

I saw it on my Kindle. I tried the embedding link, and it didn't work. 

Is it possible to do a simple copy/paste?

28 minutes ago, MLH said:

@DeeVee Yes. I saw plenty of those clips of the Fun House clip.  Even a scene where he took her to this cabin while she was pregnant.

Are we talking about scenes where he is disguised as a clown?

28 minutes ago, MLH said:

However, this scene they showed was of him kissing her on the cheek in the bathroom.

 

4 hours ago, alwaysAMC said:

I’m up to February 25, 1997.  Into 2 full years of GL now (Feb 1995-Feb 1997)!  

During the lighthouse rescue at the Ball, Roger came across Holly, who had tripped and fell. He helped her up before they both knew who each other was in the darkness. Now Roger is having flashbacks and feelings over Holly again, as he’s scheming with Amanda. He has a very sweet scene talking to Meg, which Holly overhears and visibly has a soft, fond reaction to it. Zaslow’s speech in this scene is pretty noticeable, which is heartbreaking. Holly is back to work now, post maternity leave, and she’s working the Roger/Amanda scoop and has some great scenes sparring a bit with Alex. Holly and Roger then get trapped in an elevator, which plummets to the ground, and they are holding each other. Roger is doing a great job of comforting Holly, who is freaking out. Man, I’m so glad they’re finally getting Roger and Holly back in some kind of orbit again after such a long year of nothing between those two. And I’m so glad I get to type more about Holly after all this time!

Feb 7 - ugh, Lucy and A-M leave Springfield and have a tearful goodbye at the diner with the Coopers, although only Buzz and Eleni were there. Where was Frank? I’m still salty that Lucy’s friendship with Bridgett was completely dropped long ago. They did spend a good amount of time between Lucy and Buzz, which was sweet to see. After their wedding, and with the A-M recast, it felt like Lucy lost her charm that I fell in love with in 1995. She was barely on post-honeymoon boat disaster, which again, I think a big problem was that she lost any friends she had at the boarding house so she was isolated. A-M basically left for me once Hearst left the role. So this is bittersweet for me.

Annie is setting Reva up on a wild goose chase trying to find her long lost sister, just to get Reva out of town and away from Josh. Annie also continues to blackmail Blake into helping her scheme against Reva (stealing files out of Ross’s office; tapping his phone, etc). She holds the parentage of her twins over her head, and while it is mean and I feel for Blake, it’s still quite entertaining to watch it unfold.

Rick and Abby have their engagement party on Valentine’s Day, which was nice. I loved that Reva and Alan showed up, only because they brought Abby to Springfield, and it would have been awful if the writers forgot that.

Great soap opera: 

With Holly’s support, Blake finally broke down and made the decision to tell Ross the truth about Rick being the father of one of the twins (great acting by Keifer in these scenes!). She decides to skip Rick/Abby’s engagement party and go to Ross’s office with the twins in tow, and BOOM, gets into a car crash!  What a great Friday cliffhanger.  Of course, Rick gets called to the hospital from his engagement party to tend to the accident victims and realizes it’s Blake and the twins. Lillian and Rick figure out the twin that’s injured is his (Kevin). How heartbreaking. The hospital calls Ross, who finally showed up to the party, and tells him about the accident. Everyone from Blake’s family heads to the hospital, leaving poor Abby pretty much alone (I feel so bad for her, especially when the baby truth comes out). Kevin is close to dying and Rick screams out he needs to save his son, which Lillian and other nurses hear. Rick and Lillian then save his life in surgery, all while Blake is in a coma, being watched over by Roger and Holly. Rick then FINALLY tells Ross that Kevin is his son. Ross gets angry and throws Rick across the room. These scenes have been fantastic and highly emotional. Wonderful acting by Jerry and O’Leary! Then Ross takes his wedding ring off, walks to Blake’s room where she lies in a coma, and just stares at her. So chilling. Blake then wakes up from her coma and Ross calmly tells her that Jason is fine and Rick saved her child, Kevin’s, life. She then realizes he knows and he confirms it. He coldly tells Blake “You are truly your father’s daughter. Genetically incapable of telling the truth. So amoral and self-absorbed that all you can think about is yourself and your well-being.”  Ouch!  He then walks out on Blake while she’s crying in her hospital bed alone. Meanwhile, a distraught Rick goes back to the engagement party where only Abby is left alone with their gifts, and Rick tells her the truth. Abby breaks down, cries and slaps Rick. She eventually walks out on him, leaving Rick to cry. Both performances were very strong. I wonder if these are the scenes that got Ecklund her Emmy nom.

Meanwhile, Buzz bails Jenna out of jail after she’s caught trying to steal the Grants’ jewelry. He follows her to Texas and she finally spits out the truth that baby Cooper is actually hers. I’ve never been a Buzz fan, but he’s been so tolerable and much more calm since Jenna has arrived and it’s refreshing.

So Leo just told Roger some of the Spaulding secrets. Brandon had another kid, Victoria, and left his will to both Alex and Victoria, thinking Alan was dead so he got nothing. Victoria gave everything over to Alex… interesting.

J is now courting Michelle and being an absolute gentleman. I love the change they’ve made to this character. Pilgrim’s version was so immature, mean and a bad boy, but now we have a nice, gentler J and I’m happy for that.

Opening credits note: Zachary was removed from the opening on Feb 12, and Lucy and A-M were removed on Feb 13. Jenna was added, replacing Lucy as the first character.

Ending credits note:  I’ve noticed now for over a month that Geoffrey Ewing is erroneously listed as ‘Griffin Williams - Geoffrey Williams’, but still placed in the right alphabetical order between ‘J Chamberlain - Ethan Erickson’ and ‘Holly Lindsey-Reade - Maureen Garrett’. I can’t believe no one has noticed this error! I’d send a screen grab if I knew how haha.

It was either the end of 84 or the beginning of 85 when Alex came face to face with an alive Brandon, even though he died onscreen a few years earlier. It was revealed that he was living with his longtime Black mistress Sharina, and her adult daughter Victoria was his daughter. Brandon and Sharina died at the end of the story. Someone could correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Victoria gave everything she would have gotten to Alexandra back then, and then she was written off and forgotten. When Rauch began, he said he wanted to bring on some of the Black Spauldings and Roger would play a big part in that, but then Michael and then his replacement were fired, and stories were changed. He eventually brought on Victoria's daughter Vicky, but really didn't do anything with her (I don't know if that was him or P&G because I didn't see why he would bring her on and not do much with her). In short, we the viewers knew about Victoria for years, Roger didn't and I don't know about the rest of Springfield because the story climaxed I believe in Barbados. And I do remember him saying that Holly was either going to be involved in Roger's story, or back in his sphere again, which is probably why he started playing them in scenes again. 

12 minutes ago, bboy875 said:

It was either the end of 84 or the beginning of 85 when Alex came face to face with an alive Brandon, even though he died onscreen a few years earlier. It was revealed that he was living with his longtime Black mistress Sharina, and her adult daughter Victoria was his daughter. Brandon and Sharina died at the end of the story. Someone could correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Victoria gave everything she would have gotten to Alexandra back then, and then she was written off and forgotten. When Rauch began, he said he wanted to bring on some of the Black Spauldings and Roger would play a big part in that, but then Michael and then his replacement were fired, and stories were changed. He eventually brought on Victoria's daughter Vicky, but really didn't do anything with her (I don't know if that was him or P&G because I didn't see why he would bring her on and not do much with her). In short, we the viewers knew about Victoria for years, Roger didn't and I don't know about the rest of Springfield because the story climaxed I believe in Barbados. And I do remember him saying that Holly was either going to be involved in Roger's story, or back in his sphere again, which is probably why he started playing them in scenes again. 

And, Vicky was played by Victoria Platt who is married to Terrell Tilford who played one of the David Grants, right? 

1 hour ago, alwaysAMC said:

Totally agree, the February sweeps in 1997 really gave it some life we needed. I thought all four actors killed it for two straight weeks - Kiefer, ver Dorn, O'Leary and Ecklund. I was surprised to see only Ecklund was nominated that year, although I guess it was very early into the year. 

Very happy with how much screen time Holly is getting with these interim headwriters, and the attention Roger/Holly are getting.

Computer!  I use a Mac for my personal computer and only know how to use the internet and text on here. My work computer is Windows and I'd know how to do things on there. I really need to get better at using my Mac haha. I'll go search how to print screen and see what I can do.

Let's see if I did this correctly... Whoop!

Brilliant!!! You don't know how lucky you have it, being bi-computer. That makes your brain smarter than ours because you go back & forth between two systems!!

 

10 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

And, Vicky was played by Victoria Platt who is married to Terrell Tilford who played one of the David Grants, right? 

Brilliant!!! You don't know how lucky you have it, being bi-computer. That makes your brain smarter than ours because you go back & forth between two systems!!

 

Platt was the second Vicky. The first one's name alludes me, but she was introduced as Vicky Brandon and I think worked with Michael during the clone story. After that story ended, she revealed herself to be Victoria's daughter. Platt took over i think a few weeks later

11 minutes ago, bboy875 said:

Platt was the second Vicky. The first one's name alludes me, but she was introduced as Vicky Brandon and I think worked with Michael during the clone story. After that story ended, she revealed herself to be Victoria's daughter. Platt took over i think a few weeks later

I preferred the first Vicky as she was colder and more suited to a Spaulding temperament. Platt was OK but they never did anything with her.

Through Rauch's whole run he would give token stories to black characters and nothing more - the most painfully token material imaginable on GL. I am never sure whether he wanted more and P&G stopped him, but ATWT and even AW had more in those years. It bothered me a lot with Vicky as the "black Spaulding" story should have been much more than it was. 

The scenes with Alex and Brandon were around November 1984, I think.

I think Platt divorced Tilford a few years ago.

 

53 minutes ago, bboy875 said:

It was either the end of 84 or the beginning of 85 when Alex came face to face with an alive Brandon, even though he died onscreen a few years earlier. It was revealed that he was living with his longtime Black mistress Sharina, and her adult daughter Victoria was his daughter. Brandon and Sharina died at the end of the story. Someone could correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Victoria gave everything she would have gotten to Alexandra back then, and then she was written off and forgotten. When Rauch began, he said he wanted to bring on some of the Black Spauldings and Roger would play a big part in that, but then Michael and then his replacement were fired, and stories were changed. He eventually brought on Victoria's daughter Vicky, but really didn't do anything with her (I don't know if that was him or P&G because I didn't see why he would bring her on and not do much with her). In short, we the viewers knew about Victoria for years, Roger didn't and I don't know about the rest of Springfield because the story climaxed I believe in Barbados. And I do remember him saying that Holly was either going to be involved in Roger's story, or back in his sphere again, which is probably why he started playing them in scenes again. 

It was the latter half of Nov 84, and they scatter Brandon and Sharina's ashes the first week of December. It's some beautiful location scenes. 

Vicky didn't reveal herself, a pissed off Vanessa told Alan. Michael, of course was the doctor who saved Vanessa. I'm not exactly sure why, but Vanessa blamed Vicky for his death.

 

Edited July 13Jul 13 by P.J.

Karen Williams was the original Vicky. She played the role for about six months and was then replaced by Platt. I much preferred Williams over Platt. Didn't Williams' Vicky initially have an accent?

48 minutes ago, bboy875 said:

I think Victoria gave everything she would have gotten to Alexandra back then, and then she was written off and forgotten.

That is correct. It was insulting and stupid because the entire Barbados story was about hiding a letter that would have given Victoria a Spaulding inheritance. People were willing to kill to stop it from being revealed. SO anticlimatic.

And why shouldn't Victoria take her share? White guys come to her island and get rich off of it, why not take some of it back? (Chelsea mentions during the anniversary shows in 1987 that the Spauldings accumulated wealth through Barbados interests as far back as Brandon's father). I rolled my eyes so often during that story, starting with Brandon being miraculously alive when I had watched Lucille Wexler kill him on screen.

9 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

The scenes with Alex and Brandon were around November 1984, I think.

That story I think played out most of Autumn of 1984, with the big reveal happening as part of the November sweeps for 1984. I believe it went into December as well.

I mean, if anyone wants to watch it. I still don't understand why the Reardons were front and center of that story when it had absolutely nothing to do with them.