3 hours ago, P.J. said:

14 hours ago, wonderwoman1951 said:

yes, susan batten was the first at ‘world turns — one of the worst recasts ever —  but nothing compared to what barbara bloom did when she took over cbs daytime in 2003. left jfp in the dust.

it was like a full employment program for people she worked with at abc: after roger howarth and jon lindstrom — nothing against any of the actors —  there was noelle beck replacing martha byrne, kin shriner, stuart damon, julie pinson, and probably a few more i don’t recall off the top of my head. 

Lynn Herring, Robin Mattson, Billy Warlock, that greasy Professor who was harrassing Noah and had been on OLTL, flippin' Sarah Brown, Howarth, Real Andrews (although he was a sweetie), Howarth....basically any ABC actor who went off contract it seemed.

thanks for filling in the blanks!

2 hours ago, P.J. said:

I don't know how Dinah got the station. She had owned it in the late'90's, and at some point in the late '00's, I recall Vanessa saying that Dinah had fired her after the head injury.  The only reason I can recall Vanessa was running it was that Billy kidnapped her from there at the end, trying to surprise her with a wedding.

I already don't remember the exact details (haha), but it was around '96 during the early Lonatrat stuff with Roger. Either Roger gave it to her in the marriage, or she basically stole it from Roger when he was on the drug and going crazy. Soon after she got ownership, there was an episode where Hart kept filming Dinah on set with the big cameras when she was pretending to be on air and they flirted throughout like the start of a porn movie haha.

7 hours ago, alwaysAMC said:

I already don't remember the exact details (haha), but it was around '96 during the early Lonatrat stuff with Roger. Either Roger gave it to her in the marriage, or she basically stole it from Roger when he was on the drug and going crazy. Soon after she got ownership, there was an episode where Hart kept filming Dinah on set with the big cameras when she was pretending to be on air and they flirted throughout like the start of a porn movie haha.

uhm...ewww. But thanks!

It seemed like everyone in town at some point owned the station. I think at one point, Josh bought it.

It seemed like after Dinah took over, they barely showed the day to day operations of WSPR. When did Gilly leave? 

ETA I just looked it up and Gilly left in 96.  Dumb, dumb, dumb!

I just don't get why Dinah would suddenly be ok with working or Vanessa would want to run WSPR later on. Roger only did as a means to help Holly and then to be around her and actually like running it.  I guess it was due to wanting Dinah to be a victim of Roger?

Are there any interviews with the writers about why they wrote Dinah that way?

I don't get how their marriage wasn't annulled? The marriage licence was even fake. 

Edited July 11Jul 11 by MLH

10 minutes ago, MLH said:

It seemed like after Dinah took over, they barely showed the day to day operations of WSPR. When did Gilly leave?

I just don't get why Dinah would suddenly be ok with working or Vanessa would want to run WSPR later on. Roger only did as a means to help Holly and then to be around her and actually like running it.  I guess it was due to wanting Dinah to be a victim of Roger?

Are there any interviews with the writers about why they wrote Dinah that way?

I don't get how their marriage wasn't annulled? The marriage licence was even fake. 

Gilly left August 1, 1996. IIRC, Roger/Dinah fired her and she went to work for Griffin (horrible storyline). You're right, at least from mid-1996 to February 1997, there isn't much to WSPR (same with the Springfield Journal after Nick left and Fletcher/Holly was having Meg).

I haven't gotten the sense that Dinah really 'works' though, she just seems to be a figurehead.

10 hours ago, alwaysAMC said:

Soon after she got ownership, there was an episode where Hart kept filming Dinah on set with the big cameras when she was pretending to be on air and they flirted throughout like the start of a porn movie haha.

Well, Grillo always skeeved me out, and that scene would really have done it...(were the writers finally finding how to use Grillo's uh, talent???)

1 hour ago, alwaysAMC said:

Gilly left August 1, 1996. IIRC, Roger/Dinah fired her and she went to work for Griffin (horrible storyline). You're right, at least from mid-1996 to February 1997, there isn't much to WSPR (same with the Springfield Journal after Nick left and Fletcher/Holly was having Meg).

I haven't gotten the sense that Dinah really 'works' though, she just seems to be a figurehead.

The most I tend to remember of her at WSPR is sitting in the office. I don't even remember how much we get of that soon.

I always loved the WSPR office and the Lewis Oil offices - mainly Vanessa's. The colors appealed to me. They looked less like sets than the Spaulding offices did. 

It also seemed like as the years passed, we just saw anything Spaulding go through Alan's library, or office, or whatever it was. I guess in the Peapack years they may have passed off an empty warehouse as a Spaulding office?

What did happen to Lewis Oil in GL's last decade? Did Billy run it? Was it just running itself offcamera?

Edited July 11Jul 11 by DRW50

I remember Billy holding a Lewis Oil meeting in the park during the final years.  He was mentoring his future daughter-in-law Lizzie in business as she was seeking independence from Spaulding.  Lizzie was like Mindy 2.0

6 minutes ago, Spoon said:

I remember Billy holding a Lewis Oil meeting in the park during the final years.  He was mentoring his future daughter-in-law Lizzie in business as she was seeking independence from Spaulding.  Lizzie was like Mindy 2.0

Didn't they "merge" Lewis and Spaulding when Lizzie and Bill got married? (which really there would have been a huge age difference between them but at the end they just were throwing things at the wall ...) I had always thought the Oil part was dropped from Lewis and it just became Lewis construncion, which would make more sense then having an oil company headqautered in a medium sized midwestern town (plus, Lewis Oil was so outdated and SCREAMED 80s with Dallas and Dynasty.)

17 minutes ago, Spoon said:

I remember Billy holding a Lewis Oil meeting in the park during the final years.  He was mentoring his future daughter-in-law Lizzie in business as she was seeking independence from Spaulding.  Lizzie was like Mindy 2.0

 

8 minutes ago, Mitch64 said:

Didn't they "merge" Lewis and Spaulding when Lizzie and Bill got married? (which really there would have been a huge age difference between them but at the end they just were throwing things at the wall ...) I had always thought the Oil part was dropped from Lewis and it just became Lewis construncion, which would make more sense then having an oil company headqautered in a medium sized midwestern town (plus, Lewis Oil was so outdated and SCREAMED 80s with Dallas and Dynasty.)

Thanks.

I do remember Construction getting more focus, as Josh was more in construction (wasn't there some story in the early '00s about an accident on a site that was tied to that bad Catalina illegal immigrant story [boy imagine the reaction to that story now]).

14 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

Thanks.

I do remember Construction getting more focus, as Josh was more in construction (wasn't there some story in the early '00s about an accident on a site that was tied to that bad Catalina illegal immigrant story [boy imagine the reaction to that story now]).

Definitely throughout 1995-1996, the main focus was construction, with the 5th street fire and rebuilding (David Grant falling from the scaffolding bc of Brent; Josh supporting the rebuild all through 96; Matt and his hard hats haha). 

11 minutes ago, alwaysAMC said:

Definitely throughout 1995-1996, the main focus was construction, with the 5th street fire and rebuilding (David Grant falling from the scaffolding bc of Brent; Josh supporting the rebuild all through 96; Matt and his hard hats haha). 

Thanks. I'd forgotten Matt was in construction too. This may also be why GL in the '90s was big on some characters designing and building their own houses. They would have loved the HGTV peak years. 

How did Roger make a living if he didn't have WSPR? Did he sell it to Dinah?  I hate to even rewatch 96. 

I would FF anything Dinah/Hart.  I know the last Hart and Wendy ended up marrying, etc.  But, I don't like when the real life couple is on screen as well (like Mindy/Nick and Harley/AC Mallet) type situations.  Seems like the writers try and write storylines to accommodate their real life relationship to me. 

@Mitch64 Too true about they would have loved the HGTV craze!  LOL

Edited July 11Jul 11 by MLH

18 minutes ago, MLH said:

How did Roger make a living if he didn't have WSPR? Did he sell it to Dinah?  I hate to even rewatch 96. 

I would FF anything Dinah/Hart.  I know the last Hart and Wendy ended up marrying, etc.  But, I don't like when the real life couple is on screen as well (like Mindy/Nick and Harley/AC Mallet) type situations.  Seems like the writers try and write storylines to accommodate their real life relationship to me. 

I think this was kind of a mess backstage (although I may be wrong), similar to some of the issues the show had in the mid/late '00s with real life actor relationships. That may be one of the reasons why Rauch hit the brakes on the relationship...although it may have just been that he realized what Laibson didn't, that Wendy Moniz was better at playing an insecure bitch than a heroine. I would see some fans at the time insist that Dinah had been ruined after she went so dark in the late '90s, and I would think - ruined from what? Lonitrat? Unless they were hardcore Jennifer Gatti or Paige Turco fans, I didn't buy it.

24 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

Thanks. I'd forgotten Matt was in construction too. This may also be why GL in the '90s was big on some characters designing and building their own houses. They would have loved the HGTV peak years. 

Haha very true.  And oh yes, Matt was heavily involved with construction during this time. He and Josh had quite a few scenes building things, which led them to being friends and Matt being Josh's best man at his Annie wedding. Then you have Matt constructing his and Vanessa's dream home on that island where they met. I just recently got a scene in early 1997 where Matt is actually at the Lewis offices, which was nice to see because that office set is rarely seen since early/mid-1995.