Guiding Light discussion thread

[Contessa Donatella]

Yes, Scott & Ellen both shadowed Goutman for a period & then they chose EW, who I get we'll never agree on but that's okay, too. I disagree here about "better show". I think Scott would also have been drowning in the shallow end of the pool without enough money, just as Wheeler was. However, he might not have put Jerry on recurring, maybe. 

[Matt Powers]

I tend to take all McTavish’s claims with a grain of salt. I find her quote she attributed to Agnes re: Susan Lucci totally unbelievable.Lucci was the star of that show—no way Agnes would jokingly or otherwise disparage her. I will concede to her point that Lucci as a Vegas showgirl at that point in her life was a stretch. It seems to me McTavish is one of those folks who have to tear others down to feel better about themselves.  

[Khan]

You know, "Desiree DuBois" wouldn't have been the first past-her-prime showgirl to work the Las Vegas Strip.  But I thought it was a bridge too far to presume no one would recognize world-famous supermodel Erica Kane hiding under that gloriously cheap, blonde wig.  Victoria Lord Gordon Riley Burke Riley Buchanan Buchanan Carpenter Davidson slingin' hash in Paris, Texas?  Believable.  Erica Kane Martin Brent Cudahy Chandler Roy Montgomery Montgomery Chandler Marick Marick Montgomery Fortensky doing kick lines in some sleazed-up Vegas casino?  Absolutely not.

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[Mona Kane Croft]

I think Mitch is correct here. The plot was not transphobic. Brent was not trans.  And I'll take it a step further -- he was not even a crossdresser.  If I'm not mistaken, people who identity as crossdressers enjoy crossdressing.  They do it for pleasure or as a way to express themselves.  Brent disguised himself as a woman so he could commit crimes, and for no other reason.  So unless I'm wrong about all this, I don't understand how the plot could be transphobic.  

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Mona Kane Croft

[Soaplovers]

Ellen was not a good choice.  She was too delusional and too into her emotions to be an effective EP.

She should have just remained a director and kept away from the EP chair.

 

The idea that Megan wrote in the book to counteract the showgirl idea would have been better and more befitting of Erica.  She probably would done either a cabaret show, or been a singer ala Lyla Montgomery of ATWT fame.   

 

[Contessa Donatella]

I am more than happy to agree to disagree with you. Wheeler was neither delusional nor was she "too emotional". But, what she was, was inexperienced & unsupported & that is on P&G both for not supporting the show financially & for not replacing MADD when she retired & for putting a newbie EP in the position they did & some of it is on Conboy & Weston, but it would have been the same situation with Scott in the role. There would literally only have been one advantage to Scott over Ellen & that is that KZ would've reacted better (much) to a male boss. And I know and like both Scott & Ellen. There's a long tradition of good leadership in our shows from women at the helm. If you think about Kim's book & her saying Ellen cried there's a notation in the margin in my handwriting saying "And Kim cried, too." 

[Efulton]

I 100% agree with all of this.

[Contessa Donatella]

Mona, I think this was really good explanation & clarification. You & Mitch, I think, are dead-on.