He's been giving previews and interviews to the magazines for a while now. Even more-so than Maria and Hogan.

Oh. I guess you can see I haven't read the magazines lately. I've just seen the MAB interviews online.

Adam's not gay goddammit. It was somewhat pathetic for people to expect so much of this s/l when the actual gay character is a plot point who, if he just never showed up in Genoa City again without an explanation, wouldn't be missed.

P3 is a waste of space.

Oh, please. What a bunch of bullsh!t in this thread.

Even though Maria said they were doing it, how on Earth could anyone believe that? A straight guy seducing a gay guy for his own sinister ends is NOT a gay story. And that same straight guy CANNOT turn gay. Not in a well-crafted storyline, anyway. Nor was he ever intended to do that in the end, escape with Rafe or whatever. So I don't know what's this fuss about? The whole story was absolute bullsh!t from the very start.

And those Phillips and their orientation... Who cares? How did anyone expect them to write such a story? Absolutely INSANE. This is a classic case of Y&R people hyping something and that same thing coming to bite them in the as$. Big time. You gotta love it when Bell soaps people get the Bell soaps payoff in the end: the Bells got you! Buahaha!

This is gonna be odd coming from me but...

The point is, Maria clearly promised a realistic gay storyline and they hyped this like hell to the gay press. Now to find out none of it is true?

This has to be the biggest PR disaster of the year on soaps so far...

Trying to hang onto a GLIMMER of hope here:

"At this point, we are not doing a gay story, and we never actually were doing a gay story," says co-head writer Scott Hamner.

I know this is the quote. But in what context was that quote. If the Adam/Rafe SL is what was being discussed at the time, is it possible that quote is ONLY referring to Adam/Rafe? I want to be SURE that this is not one sentence taken out of context and misconstrued.

Trying to hang onto a GLIMMER of hope here:

"At this point, we are not doing a gay story, and we never actually were doing a gay story," says co-head writer Scott Hamner.

I know this is the quote. But in what context was that quote. If the Adam/Rafe SL is what was being discussed at the time, is it possible that quote is ONLY referring to Adam/Rafe? I want to be SURE that this is not one sentence taken out of context and misconstrued.

The article was talking about both Phillip III and Rafe and how Y&R introducing gay characters created a lot of buzz earlier in the year.

Then Hamner said that quote.

Edited August 20, 200916 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

Adam's not gay goddammit. It was somewhat pathetic for people to expect so much of this s/l when the actual gay character is a plot point who, if he just never showed up in Genoa City again without an explanation, wouldn't be missed.

I agree. That's one of the reasons I never thought this was going to be a major story. But Branco and MAB both gave people a different impression.

Here's the lead up to the quote:

Shockwaves were sent through Genoa City when Adam seduced Rafe and Phillip III came back to Genoa City announcing that he's gay, but don't expect the show to take a dip in those murky waters again.

"At this point, we are not doing a gay story, and we never actually were doing a gay story," says co-head writer Scott Hamner.

What murky waters?

Those murky waters weren't filled with gay boys, flamboyant or otherwise.

They were filled with a sociopath who burned a fetus, poked his eyes to become blind, dressed as a dead woman in a wig and a bloody dress, and, oh, and in a swift move, made TGVN look like a [!@#$%^&*] retard.

Those gay boys weren't polluting the water, TIIC were.

[!@#$%^&*]... INGRATES!

This is exactly like George Bush. Someone needs to step up and tell the audience: I'm sorry for disrespecting you over the past few months with this meandering, pointless, "shocking" drivel. We will work harder to improve Y&R for 2010 and if you don't like us, we will step down and let someone run the show so that we don't, effectively and completely, run it into the ground.

Trying to hang onto a GLIMMER of hope here:

"At this point, we are not doing a gay story, and we never actually were doing a gay story," says co-head writer Scott Hamner.

I know this is the quote. But in what context was that quote. If the Adam/Rafe SL is what was being discussed at the time, is it possible that quote is ONLY referring to Adam/Rafe? I want to be SURE that this is not one sentence taken out of context and misconstrued.

Time to walk up and smell the coffee alphanguy. We have been had by Maria & Co.!!!

What murky waters?

Those murky waters weren't filled with gay boys, flamboyant or otherwise.

They were filled with a sociopath who burned a fetus, poked his eyes to become blind, dressed as a dead woman in a wig and a bloody dress, and, oh, and in a swift move, made TGVN look like a [!@#$%^&*] retard.

Those gay boys weren't polluting the water, TIIC were.

That "murky waters" says it all. The prevailing view of homosexuality by many in the media continues to be shock value, perversion, sickness, disorder. And Y&R played right into their hands.

Oh, please. What a bunch of bullsh!t in this thread.

Even though Maria said they were doing it, how on Earth could anyone believe that? A straight guy seducing a gay guy for his own sinister ends is NOT a gay story. And that same straight guy CANNOT turn gay. Not in a well-crafted storyline, anyway. Nor was he ever intended to do that in the end, escape with Rafe or whatever. So I don't know what's this fuss about? The whole story was absolute bullsh!t from the very start.

And those Phillips and their orientation... Who cares? How did anyone expect them to write such a story? Absolutely INSANE. This is a classic case of Y&R people hyping something and that same thing coming to bite them in the as$. Big time. You gotta love it when Bell soaps people get the Bell soaps payoff in the end: the Bells got you! Buahaha!

For [!@#$%^&*]'s sake, Sylph...I don't agree with you often, but when I do...good Lord! If you were here, I'd give you a lap dance.

For [!@#$%^&*]'s sake, Sylph...I don't agree with you often, but when I do...good Lord! If you were here, I'd give you a lap dance.

Oh dear gawd...a lap dance...hahahaha..Sylph is going to hit the roof....LOL....I can hear it out now...infested love (7*^*%&*%&*...LMAO!!

The interesting thing about life is that no matter how much someone lies, eventually the truth comes out about them. MAB is a proven liar. And it's bullshit at this point for Vee or anyone at this point to attack Engen. These are the fact -- We have absolute proof that MAB is a liar. We have no proof that Engen is a liar. To the contrary, ED & EB confirmed that Engen had long been unhappy and that he quit because of the extremely evil nature of Adam (even though they disagreed with CE's choice). For people to continue to call CE a homophobe when there is no solid evidence is very unfair. MAB is clearly a liar and beyotch for sullying someone's reputation like that. Let's remember that MAB also tried to cheat Nia Peeples out of her contract. MAB has shown herself to be a person who lies and cheats and defames. I have no idea if Engen is a good or bad person, but there is no evidence that he is a liar or a homophobe. The bad guy here is MAB, aided and abetted by her flying monkey writers and that dolt Branco.

MAB pimped out TB, MM and YG to the gay media. The show promised a gay story. She promised a gay story. I admit that I didn't expect much for P3 and Rafe. I figured they would have a back-burned romance with only a few scenes a month. That MAB isn't even willing to throw the fans crumbs after exploiting the gay media like that is disgusting. She's not just a bad writer, she honestly seems like a bad person. SHAME ON MAB!!!

MAB pimped out TB, MM and YG to the gay media. The show promised a gay story. She promised a gay story. I admit that I didn't expect much for P3 and Rafe. I figured they would have a back-burned romance with only a few scenes a month. That MAB isn't even willing to throw the fans crumbs after exploiting the gay media like that is disgusting. She's not just a bad writer, she honestly seems like a bad person. SHAME ON MAB!!!

She sure did. A big WORD to this part of your post. It is so true.

Is it just me or is this just like how Y&R started to do a gay story back in the '70s and backpedaled? Is daytime THAT conservative now? The answer is no, since nearly every other frigging show is doing or has done a gay story.