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Y&R: Potpourri Thread 2

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Gloria fails cause of Judith.

She's horribly miscast.

Always has been.

So I take it you liked Joan in the role? Or did you?

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Sharon's problem is that she's always needed a man for validation. She has never had a life outside of her sex life.

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So I take it you liked Joan in the role? Or did you?

LOVED Joan.

Her Gloria was AMAZING.

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oh man, really? I thought Joan was awful. It was obvious she was overwhelmed by the pace of daytime IMHO.

Having loved KL, I was elated when Joan joined...but ultimately disappointed. Her Gloria was too weird for me...almost like Gloria-Swanson weird...and I didn't buy her as low-rent trailer trash either.

I agree with DeeeDee, though, in the sense that my love is for Judith Chapman...not Gloria. It is hard to see the low-rent trailer trash in Gloria...although I guess you could say her "airs" are overcompensation for humble beginnings. But Judith is a southern girl...and that doesn't really fit with Detroit-roots Gloria (as someone who used to live in Detroit, I can say this with some awareness).

I also don't like that Gloria has become increasingly soulless, venal. But I do love Judith so much (and I did on RH and GH too...I never watched her on DOOL), that I sort of can close my eyes to all that :lol:

ETA: Eric Braeden apparently does press like he acts: He has a rehearsed set of stock phrases ("I come from the world of sports...", etc.), and he re-uses heavily. No matter: He has a screen presence like no others. Did you see him bristle every time one of those chirpy anchors cut him off?

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So, in an interview about GH's "Lucky", Michael Fairman asked Jonathan Jackson about what he'd write for Lucky. To which JJ replied:

I don’t know… just explore all the intensities that Lucky has. I am excited about all the tension of him being Luke and Laura’s son, which is what I think is exciting to me about Lucky. He has this wildness and danger of Luke, but he has this purity of Laura, and there is always the contradiction with him. So I always feel like you can take those things to the extremes

See, now that is what I always wished for with Adam Newman! I still believe we can get there....

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We can't get there with these writers. In a perfect world, the writers would know what they are doing and why they are doing it, but in the real world it's all about "where do we go in this new cycle" and "let's change 20 personalities to fit our agenda." So yeah, nothing really matters if character is always hurt in the process for the sole purpose of plot.

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LOVED Joan.

Her Gloria was AMAZING.

I liked Joan Gloria too. Maybe because she wasn't in your face like ho9w this Gloria is playing her. I just wanted This Gloria to get her just do & take her sons with her. While maybe not Micheal.

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Having loved KL, I was elated when Joan joined...but ultimately disappointed. Her Gloria was too weird for me...almost like Gloria-Swanson weird...and I didn't buy her as low-rent trailer trash either.

I agree with DeeeDee, though, in the sense that my love is for Judith Chapman...not Gloria. It is hard to see the low-rent trailer trash in Gloria...although I guess you could say her "airs" are overcompensation for humble beginnings. But Judith is a southern girl...and that doesn't really fit with Detroit-roots Gloria (as someone who used to live in Detroit, I can say this with some awareness).

I also don't like that Gloria has become increasingly soulless, venal. But I do love Judith so much (and I did on RH and GH too...I never watched her on DOOL), that I sort of can close my eyes to all that :lol:

Full agreement here.

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Gloria fails cause of Judith.

She's horribly miscast.

Always has been.

Really? I mean I know she tend to over act and overdoes the camp but the character is campy

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I liked Joan Gloria too. Maybe because she wasn't in your face like ho9w this Gloria is playing her. I just wanted This Gloria to get her just do & take her sons with her. While maybe not Micheal.

Pretty much.

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Having loved KL, I was elated when Joan joined...but ultimately disappointed. Her Gloria was too weird for me...almost like Gloria-Swanson weird...and I didn't buy her as low-rent trailer trash either.

That's why I always felt they should have (If they planned Gloria to be relatievely long term) casted Dorothy Lyman in that role.

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That's why I always felt they should have (If they planned Gloria to be relatievely long term) casted Dorothy Lyman in that role.

Now THAT would have worked. Lyman could have turned off the twang (which she does easily, as in her AW role)...but she'd have been PERFECT.

Though I love my Chapman. Heck, I would even have enjoyed her as a recast Lorie Brooks

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