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:lol:

But we don't see that you see. Whereas you say you aren't challenging anything Alvin says, it doesn't seem that way. I'm not trying to start a war here. But saying "Hogan has wonderful ideas" goes against everything that surrounds you. You who watched his ATWT, DOOL and now Y&R. That statement is completely false.

Another way of handling it would be a la Cat: I love MAB, she said. Did anyone shoot her? Nope. And no one will. Just be clear. Say: I love Hogan, I think he's mega fabulous and the world will be at peace. :P:)

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All good, my friend. :) I promise, sometimes I'm just making other observations about the show that aren't meant to imply "you're wrong". That's definitely not my M.O. Hope my original post about Sheffer wasn't trying to imply he was some grand misunderstood genius (You know. Like Sylph, as you said. :lol:). I don't think that at all. Just that he's a good idea/plot guy the show desperately needed last August. But he needed somebody (preferably himself, but I'll take anybody else too) to say "You did this at another show and it failed", or "That's too out there for the Y&R audience".

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Hey, you walked right into that by bringing up something (even if you agreed with it) I said in a thread where I and many others feel right at home in. :lol:

A lot of it bears repeating because the same discussions come up time and time again. As long as fans are unhappy with the show and those responsible for crafting its creative vision, I think that's the way it's going to be.

I wasn't attacking you, but the sadness of see what this show has deteriorated into with this writing regime has caused a lot of very passionate posts.

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I don't love Hogan. I was making an observation that he is a man execs hire when they're lacking plot. Lacking paper. He does not excel in character or the art of soap. Which is why the Y&R marriage of MAB and HS should work in theory, since her early 2008 stuff was so character-driven. Sadly, it swung too far the other way.

Exactly. Thanks, JP! :)

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And we're back to un-fun.

Seriously, what is it about the Y&R threads that breeds this? It's so disappointing. It's a shame, because this used to be a great place to "hang" on the web.

Oh well. Thanks for understanding what I was saying, Alvin. I appreciate it. :)

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Completely predictable again. "Back to un-fun."

You first start something, not apologize or explain yourself if you offended him/her, then go all "I'm going back to lurkdom" with all the minions begging you to return. I think you're an extremely valuable asset to this board, but if Alvin's "same" kind of posts annoy you, some find "back to lurkdom" posts annoying too. :)

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I think this clip was the point many of us realized that Y&R had hit rock bottom with this regime, and ever since then, the show hasn't been the same, and continues to get more illogical and absurd. Little problems end up becoming big problems.

Seriously, the chipmunk crap was more Harmony than Genoa City....

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It was dumb and stupid. Just a few days before that they had Roscoe Born there, who could have easily appeared in Kevin's hallucinations -- but NO, Hogie wanted to attach an animal head... stupid, stupid, stupid. Anyway, that's where it all started to crumble. The Terroni and Adam completely changing his personality plus Bierdz's return is what ended up being the main reason I quit.

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First I laughed my ass off at your phrasing of this. I'm still giggling.

And then I began to weep. If Born had played Kevin's "inner demon", how much cooler would that have been?

I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop with P3.

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They know that the longer they keep this up, the more viewers won't care when Jill leaves.

It's just pathetic. They have taken nearly everything away from Jill. To think that they brought back the son who was such a cornerstone of her existence, and she barely interacts with him. She should have more story now than she had in years, and yet we saw more of her when her storyline was Warton doing a striptease.

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